Don't forget we effectively had to give away half ownership of the Ricoh when we sold out to Higgs.Indeed (if you're talking about HR, the Ricoh was techncially never ours to give up).
Either way, it wasn't as stupid and immoral an idea as selling the Ricoh to a franchise - but hell as long as we've given SISU a bloody nose what does that matter, eh?
Ah, a stretched metaphor, you should perhaps warm up properly before you post. Still, makes a change from your usual straw man arguments I suppose.
Basically then, you've got one bloke who gets paid by Wasps and it's easy enough to understand why he supports them.
Fans like you supporting the deal with them is mystifying however - your hatred of SISU has blinded you to the obvious and you've done so many somersaults to try to justify it that you've just ended up with your panties in a fucking huge knot.
The only point you can ever make is that we've got shit owners - who here doesn't get that? Using it to disregard everything else that's been done to the club is just lazy one-eyed idiocy though, I'm afraid.
Thing is as well, shmmeee, there are so many on here only looking at the whole thing from a Coventry City supporter point of view, rather than from the point of view of the local council bing responsible for the whole city and not just a small minority of the populace.What are you on about? Take a breath.
We were in control of our ground situation, now we aren't. Wasps is a total distraction, nothing to do with us. Your hatred is the one blinding you.
I agree the deal was shit. I suspect we need our own ground. I supported the rent strike as a tactic to bring about a better deal.
Where you and I part company is the idea that it was smart to throw away our current deal and put us completely at the mercy of a third party with no stake in our future before finding an alternative.
We are where we are because of poor strategy nothing more nothing less.
If my mortgage is too high, I negotiate a new one or I move house. I don't just stop paying it and move onto the streets. That a better analogy for you?
As a club we stopped being a reliable tenant and took our landlords to court, then bitch about not being given preferential treatment. That's entitled and immature to the extreme.
Wasps could not have moved here if we were still reliable tenants. CCC would not have been looking to get rid ASAP if they didn't have a hostile organisation using the courts to attack them. CCCs primary objective at a time of reduced budgets is emptying bins and providing social care, not looking after football clubs. That's just the political reality. They would be abdicating their legal duties to their constituents if they put CCFC ahead of social care.
You can bitch and moan that everyone should be nice to us at their own cost because we are CCFC and we are special. But it's not true. Live in the world as it is, not as we wish it was.
His Dad worked for the council.Ah, a stretched metaphor, you should perhaps warm up properly before you post. Still, makes a change from your usual straw man arguments I suppose.
Basically then, you've got one bloke who gets paid by Wasps and it's easy enough to understand why he supports them.
Fans like you supporting the deal with them is mystifying however - your hatred of SISU has blinded you to the obvious and you've done so many somersaults to try to justify it that you've just ended up with your panties in a fucking huge knot.
The only point you can ever make is that we've got shit owners - who here doesn't get that? Using it to disregard everything else that's been done to the club is just lazy one-eyed idiocy though, I'm afraid.
Well put Martha.What are you on about? Take a breath.
We were in control of our ground situation, now we aren't. Wasps is a total distraction, nothing to do with us. Your hatred is the one blinding you.
I agree the deal was shit. I suspect we need our own ground. I supported the rent strike as a tactic to bring about a better deal.
Where you and I part company is the idea that it was smart to throw away our current deal and put us completely at the mercy of a third party with no stake in our future before finding an alternative.
We are where we are because of poor strategy nothing more nothing less.
If my mortgage is too high, I negotiate a new one or I move house. I don't just stop paying it and move onto the streets. That a better analogy for you?
As a club we stopped being a reliable tenant and took our landlords to court, then bitch about not being given preferential treatment. That's entitled and immature to the extreme.
Wasps could not have moved here if we were still reliable tenants. CCC would not have been looking to get rid ASAP if they didn't have a hostile organisation using the courts to attack them. CCCs primary objective at a time of reduced budgets is emptying bins and providing social care, not looking after football clubs. That's just the political reality. They would be abdicating their legal duties to their constituents if they put CCFC ahead of social care.
You can bitch and moan that everyone should be nice to us at their own cost because we are CCFC and we are special. But it's not true. Live in the world as it is, not as we wish it was.
His Dad worked for the council.
Thing is as well, shmmeee, there are so many on here only looking at the whole thing from a Coventry City supporter point of view, rather than from the point of view of the local council bing responsible for the whole city and not just a small minority of the populace.
Yeah. I don't hate Wasps, but I do hate them being here.The thing is Otis, is that Shmeee bad mouths anyone who disagrees with Wasps being here as one eyed haters.
Perhaps he is the one eyed one, because as an intelligent adult, I can disagree with them being here, disagree with how and why they arrived, and wish them to leave back to their original heartlands, without hating them at all.
Thing is as well, shmmeee, there are so many on here only looking at the whole thing from a Coventry City supporter point of view, rather than from the point of view of the local council bing responsible for the whole city and not just a small minority of the populace.
and if you look at it away from the Ricoh and CCFC then the council have consistently failed in that responsibility.
Would be nice to see an independent council at the helm for a change.
Or of course give it to UKIP. They will sort everything out.
perhaps the only thing worse than the one we've got!
You happy with the EDL then?
Can't help but think this has played out just as Fisher wants it to. Say they're moving us to the Butts, their owner expresses an interest but the council object straight away. Then the plans fall apart and Fisher can go to the FL, who have been involved to the point that they've visited the Butts, and say they tried but were blocked.
Don't over analyse, think in the terms Fisher will be stating to the FL. The club were in dialogue about a move to the Butts, the FL visited the site, then the news became public via the rugby club, the council immediately moved to have a clause added to the lease preventing professional football.How were we blocked?
What are you on about? Take a breath.
We were in control of our ground situation, now we aren't. Wasps is a total distraction, nothing to do with us. Your hatred is the one blinding you.
I agree the deal was shit. I suspect we need our own ground. I supported the rent strike as a tactic to bring about a better deal.
Where you and I part company is the idea that it was smart to throw away our current deal and put us completely at the mercy of a third party with no stake in our future before finding an alternative.
We are where we are because of poor strategy nothing more nothing less.
If my mortgage is too high, I negotiate a new one or I move house. I don't just stop paying it and move onto the streets. That a better analogy for you?
As a club we stopped being a reliable tenant and took our landlords to court, then bitch about not being given preferential treatment. That's entitled and immature to the extreme.
Wasps could not have moved here if we were still reliable tenants. CCC would not have been looking to get rid ASAP if they didn't have a hostile organisation using the courts to attack them. CCCs primary objective at a time of reduced budgets is emptying bins and providing social care, not looking after football clubs. That's just the political reality. They would be abdicating their legal duties to their constituents if they put CCFC ahead of social care.
You can bitch and moan that everyone should be nice to us at their own cost because we are CCFC and we are special. But it's not true. Live in the world as it is, not as we wish it was.
Thing is as well, shmmeee, there are so many on here only looking at the whole thing from a Coventry City supporter point of view, rather than from the point of view of the local council bing responsible for the whole city and not just a small minority of the populace.
who's the we? trust you are not thinking of su u:happy:We should stop all the messing about and buy Nuneaton Town and their ground and develop that put a car park on the rugby pitch would be a good start
who's the we? trust you are not thinkWe should stop all the messing about and buy Nuneaton Town and their ground and develop that put a car park on the rugby pitch would be a good start
and if the council had refused to bail out the stadium in the first place what would your comments be about that?and if you look at it away from the Ricoh and CCFC then the council have consistently failed in that responsibility.
Can't help but think this has played out just as Fisher wants it to. Say they're moving us to the Butts, their owner expresses an interest but the council object straight away. Then the plans fall apart and Fisher can go to the FL, who have been involved to the point that they've visited the Butts, and say they tried but were blocked.
A secure tenancy which would have put us out of business you mean?What you on about?
We had a secure tenancy. Now we don't. That's literally all there is too it.
Keep spitting feathers at the guy who's dating the girl you dumped though.
A secure tenancy that the tenant signed up for and here we go again......round and roundA secure tenancy which would have put us out of business you mean?
Our owners were bullies who got a bloody nose, some of our fans decide that the club will no longer get their money so the downward spiral continues. It seems to me like we are totally in control of our downfall and have been for years. Get behind CCFC and stop the blame game, we are drowning in our own puke.Ah, a stretched metaphor, you should perhaps warm up properly before you post. Still, makes a change from your usual straw man arguments I suppose.
Basically then, you've got one bloke who gets paid by Wasps and it's easy enough to understand why he supports them.
Fans like you supporting the deal with them is mystifying however - your hatred of SISU has blinded you to the obvious and you've done so many somersaults to try to justify it that you've just ended up with your panties in a fucking huge knot.
The only point you can ever make is that we've got shit owners - who here doesn't get that? Using it to disregard everything else that's been done to the club is just lazy one-eyed idiocy though, I'm afraid.
I thought the clause already existed. Originally put in to protect the rugby club?Don't over analyse, think in the terms Fisher will be stating to the FL. The club were in dialogue about a move to the Butts, the FL visited the site, then the news became public via the rugby club, the council immediately moved to have a clause added to the lease preventing professional football.
That's how it will be presented to the FL. And remember this isn't a court case, there's nobody presenting an alternative viewpoint.
Given how the FL generally act do you think they'll take it at face value off the basis of their involvement so far and articles published in the CT or do you think they will start investigating an dig deeper?
I thought everyone now accepted that Clause DOESN'T exist.
Funny that, I've been banging on for ages (since we bogged off to Northampton, in fact) about how we should buddy up with Warwick Uni.There is a hand in hand agreement waiting to happen. Physiotherapy, sports degrees all at Cov Uni.....Academy?...Partnership?...SISU just haven't got the business sense to see it.
Funny that, I've been banging on for ages (since we bogged off to Northampton, in fact) about how we should buddy up with Warwick Uni.
Same principle, mind. You'd hope any future owner would see the blindingly obvious!
BPA was a complete non starter, Fisher had to be seen as at least trying to be doing something new ground related after being exposed by that freedom of information request.
Fisher can blame fans and CCC as much as he likes but CRFC would not touch SISU with a barge pole. Yes it's blame SISU again but they are the common denominator in all CCFC problems.
BPA was a complete non starter, Fisher had to be seen as at least trying to be doing something new ground related after being exposed by that freedom of information request.
Fisher can blame fans and CCC as much as he likes but CRFC would not touch SISU with a barge pole. Yes it's blame SISU again but they are the common denominator in all CCFC problems.
I've said this all along mate. Get your "Tin Hat" on GG
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