skybluegod
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He didn't get asked? So how can he answer a question he isn't asked?
He hasn't come out with the plan to attack any player from what I have read.
Whenever he has been asked however he always gives the truthful opinion.
Have I missed him slating other players as bad? Chaplin for missing simple chances?
It's all well and good saying things like "they didn't listen to me" or "we were too deep after they scored" after the game. He's the manager.
We had no clue at all against Portsmouth. Our midfield was non existent, did he single Shipley and Doyle out?
It wasn't the same tactics as Sunderland?
Pretty obvious as soon as we kicked off how different it was.
He didn't get asked? So how can he answer a question he isn't asked?
He hasn't come out with the plan to attack any player from what I have read.
Whenever he has been asked however he always gives the truthful opinion.
It's the same tactics different execution. We don't know what the manager has said to the players. He has said that Hiwula didn't do as asked. It's not too far a leap to say that others had done the same.
No it wasn't, it was a different formation / system.
The formation was different as soon as we kicked off, nothing to do with Hiwula following instructions.Can't you see the link between a player not following instructions and a formation appearing to be different?
The formation was different as soon as we kicked off, nothing to do with Hiwula following instructions.
Change Chaplin for Andreu and everything is different.
Yes, that was after about 70 minutes when we were losing and getting absolutely nowhere without a midfield and not even troubling Portsmouth.Read Robins' comments, he wanted Hiwula to play the role Chaplin did against Pompey, he didn't, instead trying to replicate what Andreu was doing.
He has mentioned the misses and was asked but doesn't go into the same detail slating them.
It was the same when he was going on about hiwula being a striker and not a left midfielder. He then starts him on the right midfield.
Maybe he was just watching a different game against Portsmouth.
No it wasn't, it was a different formation / system.
Yes, that was after about 70 minutes when we were losing and getting absolutely nowhere without a midfield and not even troubling Portsmouth.
Hiwula was dropping deep because that's the only way he could get the ball due to the midfield. Thomas and Jones had both vanished at that point as well. Nobody was moving at all for throwins, so he was running and showing for them and getting it which is why then he was putting the crosses in.
If he thought at that point in the game it was going to change the game just chucking Hiwula up front with the midfield in the state it was, Jones dead on his feet after 5 minutes and Thomas missing and Doyle still thinking he was playing Sunderland it's even more worrying.
I was talking about the way he started the game. It was completely different to Sunderland.
It's called saying what happened.Nick you literally said the other week, 'why are we doing like for like changes' you beg for the 'attacking players' to be sent on when we are losing. Robins does this. Then you are complaining that he didn't change the midfield.
As i said. You seem to hate on Robins no matter what. Mr. Negative.
No it wasn't? Andreu was effectively in midfield.Okay so same style of play should i say. only difference was Andreu.
No it wasn't? Andreu was effectively in midfield.
It's called saying what happened.
I have said time and time again he doesn't know how to change a game when it isn't going in our favour. His changes are usually too late.
I do usually want attacking players on, however it was obvious to anybody with eyes the midfield was AWOL, we created nothing.
Each game is different, it depends how its going. Where we are getting success and where we are struggling.
No it’s called being negative about everything.
And many people have said before, not many managers do know how to change a game at this level. They don’t have the resources.
The idea of bringing Hiwula on would have been for him to start making runs in behind meaning Portsmouth have to drop deeper, so either creating a bigger gap between the defence and midfield for Thomas and jones to utilise or for the midfield to also drop allowing Bayliss and Doyle to assert more control.
Anyone with a football brain would know that.
The way you speak we have never had any success in a game. Or under robins.
Well he's getting to play more with Chaplin than expected, and has even ended up in his preferred position from time to time.The saving grace from the club's POV is that injuries to Biamou and Pnticelli mean he's one of a group of four forwards, but he's never really going to get a chance unless Chaplin gets injured, is he?
If played up front for 40 games, he’d score 20 goals.
Neck. Out.
Edit: anyone got or know a site that has which positions he’s played in to know what his current ratio is when playing up top?
Hiwula is poor back to goal, which is definitely his weakness to work on, so I can see why Robins didn't play him up top before but credit to Robins on this one - after fucking about with so many formation and shape changes this season he's pulled one out that genuinely works to the strengths of most of the players he's picking.
There's a lot of reasons why it's working:
* He's brought Mason back in and Sterling is fit again so we're purposefully getting the fullbacks forward and on the overlap and starting to get the ball into dangerous areas in the box.
* The strikers are in the box more as they don't have to run the channels so often (until we are winding the game down at least) as wingers and fullbacks are helping to stretch the defence laterally.
* Teams are having to work harder against us because of a) inceased pressing from the front and b) the tracking up and down the pitch they are having to do chasing our kids.
* We're winning the ball directly off opposition more in midfield and able to quickly turn defence into attack whereas previously we were relying on loose passes and mistakes to turnover possession.
I'm very happy with the changes and it's still a work in progress e.g Hiwula back to goal, Thomas decision making, Chaplin's depth on the pitch, Mason's fitness, set pieces etc but fundamentally it works with the players we have and believe we still have further room to improve.
A more appropriate title for this thread:
The Curious Case of Coventry City Fans: Why Do They Make Knee-Jerk Reactions?
Decades of bottom half finishes, relegation battles, terrible/dubious owners, and a few relegations thrown in. People who have been starved of success for that long don't hold much patience. Though if you go on Stoke's forums they are demanding Gary Rowett's head for not winning every game. Not just us...
Stoke have just been relegated from the Prem. We’ve just been promoted and have a young team. Totally different contexts.
At our worst, we were 14th and still about 3 points off 9th. We also had some rough home games in Luton, P’boro and Accrington (6th at the time) and lost once. Just two weeks a section of this forum was saying we were the only promoted team to have not improved over the summer and we were in crisis and all sorts of hyperbolic nonsense. Only Luton are above us from the promoted teams.
I think that’s what many people are forgetting - we’re a young team and a number of fans on here rely on many of our youngest players to perform week in, week out. MR admitteded that even the likes of Chaplin shouldn’t be expected to be like for like replacement for McNulty.
Albeit he may not be worth 500K based on his current form but we’re not even 5 months in on what’s probably going to be a long term contract. Who knows how he’ll do next season or the season after! Us fans do have a serious issue with ‘shortterminism’
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