Hobo
Well-Known Member
The irony in this is, Grendel is the best propaganda ACL have, a bit like Paisley in the Ireland question. Lots of people would love to shoot him but there is more mileage in just letting him run his mouth.
I have made a statement tonight that RFC is in my opinion a council plant. Now I would not normally single out a poster but I have to conclude the agenda is to create hysteria and unity against his apparent beliefs. It's a common strategy I've deployed on several occasions. The tipping point was the absurd statement regarding the Ricoh and non attendance. By apparently supporting sisu he creates pro council unity even amongst the sceptics and undecided.
My view also is;
There is one obvious sisu plant here
Another council plant who deploys the alternate strategy
One who is PWKH with an alternate identity - Or a follower
One who is clearly associated with Higgs
Just my opinion of course.
See, that's playing into the false dichotomy set up by Sisu. There are more than two possible outcomes here.
There are more members of this site than the biggest Sixfields crowd..
So what? There were more at the Crewe semi than have signed the petition.[/
Perhaps the surplus can't be arsed with petitions. Do you prescribe to the idea that every fan is registered on here?
Or some attendees were neutral and just fancied a night out?
Or some fans hoping they could be won over and brought back into the fold?
Who knows, who cares, it is filed in history.
You might see yourself as a loyal fan, others might see you as an old sheep tethered to the fence of an old regime.
That will not happen. So that option is removed.
Says who?
So what? There were more at the Crewe semi than have signed the petition.[/
Perhaps the surplus can't be arsed with petitions. Do you prescribe to the idea that every fan is registered on here?
Or some attendees were neutral and just fancied a night out?
Or some fans hoping they could be won over and brought back into the fold?
Who knows, who cares, it is filed in history.
You might see yourself as a loyal fan, others might see you as an old sheep tethered to the fence of an old regime.
Who cares? I think you will find this is always dragged out as an example of the true support that's out there - the potential. Its all nonsense though.
You also I see are mistakenly associating fan support with support if a specific regime. Utter nonsense.
The owners will not budge on that issue. So its not an option.
Is this the same owners you told in person that you don't believe them when they say that they're building their own stadium?
Yet when they say that they won't negotiate on a return to the Ricoh there word is gospel?
You can't have it both ways.
The ultimate conclusion then is sisu stay in charge you would prefer the club to remain at Sixfields indefinitely rather than secure freehold of the ground.
I have made a statement tonight that RFC is in my opinion a council plant. Now I would not normally single out a poster but I have to conclude the agenda is to create hysteria and unity against his apparent beliefs. It's a common strategy I've deployed on several occasions. The tipping point was the absurd statement regarding the Ricoh and non attendance. By apparently supporting sisu he creates pro council unity even amongst the sceptics and undecided.
My view also is;
There is one obvious sisu plant here
Another council plant who deploys the alternate strategy
One who is PWKH with an alternate identity - Or a follower
One who is clearly associated with Higgs
Just my opinion of course.
What a load of bollocks, you ridicule yourself with this attention seeking post
All this says is your opinion and you always harp on about,
prove it with facts
RFC has views that are not shared by the majority. nor, at times can he justify some of his statements.
However, i do know the chap and although our opinions are at times poles apart, he really is good company and he has supported our club for about 60 years.
I have made a statement tonight that RFC is in my opinion a council plant. Now I would not normally single out a poster but I have to conclude the agenda is to create hysteria and unity against his apparent beliefs. It's a common strategy I've deployed on several occasions. The tipping point was the absurd statement regarding the Ricoh and non attendance. By apparently supporting sisu he creates pro council unity even amongst the sceptics and undecided.
My view also is;
There is one obvious sisu plant here
Another council plant who deploys the alternate strategy
One who is PWKH with an alternate identity - Or a follower
One who is clearly associated with Higgs
Just my opinion of course.
Think you need to get out more Grendel. It's just a little football forum mate.
Please explain to him that when you repeatedly say support SP and his boys whatever goes on.
Then says if we return to the Ricoh I am not going.
That completely undermines his own opinion
What a load of bollocks, you ridicule yourself with this attention seeking post
All this says is your opinion and you always harp on about,
prove it with facts
Ok I see where these arguments are going. Lets at least take the facts and look.
The rental deal and associated match day fees etc etc was far too high and unsustainable. The period led by Ranson proved too costly.
The Hedge Fund has been quite successful at what they do regardless of how you might think morally. Running a football club is not one of their fortes though is it? However facts are while we have been relegated twice and they admit mistakes and appointments of people who were very poor at running things, they did then get a hold of a tragic situation and to this day have kept the club alive here in the 3rd tier. They have been rebuffed by the council/ACL regarding the Ricoh deal required to make the club sustainable. Then the council rather underhandedly kept ACL alive by the loan that is the subject of a JR now. Why did the council not simply find a solution with the football club to acquire the stadium they helped to complete in the first place? The council should have done all it could to help the communities football club stay at the purpose built stadium. I will accept SISU acted in ways that defy logic at times but we don't know the whole truth do we? When our own council rejected the deal that saw us get a 10 point deduction I failed to see the sense in their actions and SISU acted the only way they could to save the club. It would have been so easy for SISU to have walked away bruised but they did not tbf. They know that the stadium is a must for the football club and if run properly eventually lead to a profit on investment. The debt everyone keeps bantering around is largely paper talk or the club would have been ditched long ago.
I'm not happy with SISU as owners of my club but I'm sure not happy with the community spirit being shown by the council towards our football club either. It seems to me the council should be wholeheartedly behind the football club in reuniting them with the stadium and not hell bent on operating it their way, like they were a private enterprise themselves? It's perhaps time to realise we will not get new owners of our football club until we have a stadium to play in. The council seem to be vengeful and SISU likewise in pursuit of their goals but someone and at the moment the only one standing up for the club is SISU however deranged that may seem at times.
Ah, you didn't get my point. Sorry.
Usually BFR comes back with just such as question in reply to most posts. I was just returning the favour. Yes, I know there are more than two possible outcomes.
And the other fallacy which is chanted by many on here is that CCFC would disappear if SISU were allowed to get their hands on the Ricoh.
Sorry, I get confused in all the sarcasm and subtle digs on here!
This must be what it was like to be a spy in the cold war.
Is it? When is football discussed on it?
Not enough but that's not really my point. I just think you're a bit sad having a conspiracy theory about someone you've never met and only talk to online.
No doubt those who demand ACL and council victory will experience similar crushing disappointment when they realise that victory is no football club at all and the stadium is still empty.
I haven't - RFC aside - that's my point.
I know that you either see me as one of those that demand a ACL/CCC victory or make out as though I do. I just have a more realistic idea on what could and should happen. Victory would be our club coming home to the Ricoh. The scale of the victory would be the terms on our club returning. Our club having a long term future at the Ricoh would be a massive result.
Whilst we are naming and shaming, I have just heard a rumour that Jesus was Batman - the message being delivered in the medium of song!
You could be correct.
As the Cambridge 5 found their reward was spending their exist in a cold, cramped Moscow apartment - permenantly bugged by the KGB.
No doubt those who demand ACL and council victory will experience similar crushing disappointment when they realise that victory is no football club at all and the stadium is still empty.
One minute you say SISU would never liquidate the club, the next you say the club will go out of existence, make up your mind!
And one minute he says he'll never set foot inside sixfields, the next, well we know the rest.
a truly tiresome, attention seeking individual.
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