Grendel
Well-Known Member
Like you did when it was £10 a ticket on the return to the Ricoh? You are a joke.
Agree with this 100%. The issue with SISU is a moral one that transcends football.
I'm certain that we have worst owners in the country and despair at how many are willing to stomach being treated with such contempt.
What gives you the right to speak on behalf of 8,000 people you cretin
Oh I know I'm missing out. Don't you worry about that.You are the only one missing out. Your actions will have no impact on Sisu but will damage ccfc
Like you did when it was £10 a ticket on the return to the Ricoh? You are a joke.
If you say "I don't like" it means you are speaking on behalf of yourself. However I haven't got time now for a full English lesson, it's bedtime. Night night Grendull.
As if this is anything new. Successful seasons with or without sisu have been blips for ccfc unfortunately.the problem is we no longer score very often or win for that matter.
Back to the OP we all agree that ccfc is but a small cog in the sisu empire, so if after nine years of getting costs under control , Tim and Joys time is increased dealing with ccfc for very little return ,they may decide enough is enough , I known my manager has a weekly meeting to explain any extra costs ie unplanned overtime , by his own admission Fisher dose not get paid by ccfc so he can not have unlimited hours to give to them , Remember each manager change takes time and money . Liquidation has been mentioned as an outcome , but taking what they can get may also be on there list ,ccfc is worth more in league one , than national league. Its time v money that will also determined what will happen to ccfc not just ticking over on the books
Blips of success in the premiership and league 1 are enjoyable and are worth the money. Relegation to league 2 is not.As if this is anything new. Successful seasons with or without sisu have been blips for ccfc unfortunately.
In terms of the fa it is, hence the league table doesn't say otium.We aren't CCFC though are we?
I mean of we all turned up at the Memorial or Butts Park and demanded whoever CCFC were playing on the fixture list should turn up and give us a game no one would give a shit.
All this sorry debacle has done is highlight how much this is a multi million pound business mascquerading as a community organisation.
We might look like to think we are CCFC, but we aren't legally or in the eyes of the FA, Otium Entertainment is.
We can quite literally like it or lump it.
Sisu have spent the last 8 years trying to drive down costs and get spending under control REGARDLESS of where that takes us (and who knows where its going) so we must take back control of there Income by total blanket ban of paying for anything in advance , no season tickets , no match day tickets , nothing , that way they will not know how to police/steward a game or staff a game , to few staff and they could have big problems , to many staff and its dead money (like what they have been trying to save the last few years), Also people who are boycotting could pick random matches and attend sisu would have no idea on crowd size , and if they did cut to a level so tight that the team was suffering even more , people could all turn up meaning, more police and stewards, meaning Fisher and Sepla would get tired up with more meetings,Tticket Master would not be happy if everyone turned up for pay on the gate, in all businesses there is a tipping point , lets find it
I hope people don't read your thread and call you an 'utter moron'.See my thread re why do fans have an issue with CCFC breaking even/making a profit.
Complete and utter moron.
It's almost like when you make out people are stupid because they don't agree yet you never back things up because it's too "simple" for you to need to.I hope people don't read your thread and call you an 'utter moron'.
I did read your post just don't agree With it wouldn't. Call. You. A moron though its your. Point of vlewSee my thread re why do fans have an issue with CCFC breaking even/making a profit.
Complete and utter moron.
Support isn't just for the good times though is it? Although it does seem like that for a lot of people at the minute.Blips of success in the premiership and league 1 are enjoyable and are worth the money. Relegation to league 2 is not.
What does that mean?That have won.iv lost goodbye.
I did read your post just don't agree With it wouldn't. Call. You. A moron though its your. Point of vlew
I did read your post just don't agree With it wouldn't. Call. You. A moron though its your. Point of vlew
In terms of the fa it is, hence the league table doesn't say otium.
Just a thought but I wonder if there is an issue that there are some very knowledgebale people on here who understand the financial and legal stuff about different entities but for people without that level of knowledge what jumps out is the point that "The reality is that Sisu has final say on the big decisions and control the loans etc. As it stands Ccfc are at the whim of Seppala"?
Sisu control otium t/a Ccfc. However otium is not part of Sisu.
If Sisu walked away then yes Ccfc still exists
The club has its own staff etc that have no link at all to Sisu.
Fisher likes to make the point they are entirely separate. The reality is that Sisu has final say on the big decisions and control the loans etc. As it stands Ccfc are at the whim of Seppala. However Sisu are not at the whim of Ccfc. They are linked because of the control exerted but they are not the same entity
Yep nicks right. We cannot affect Sisu financially I'm sure of it. However by going although it won't affect Sisu it will affect ccfc. Quite simple really
What gives you the right to speak on behalf of 8,000 people you cretin
Thanks OSB, now can all you sisu and CCFC are the same boring bastards fuck off and do your irritating somewhere else.
no because morally we are right
no because morally we are right
The only way would be to go at SISU as SISU and not CCFC. Investors, their reputation in the financial / investment world etc.
I don't know much about that industry but there will be people who do.
Whenever someone from the Trust posts on here they always seem to say people should give them ideas and going at sisu would be a great thing to do when this thread shows (I hope I've got this right!) that ccfc and sisu are separate entities but Sisu has the final say and Ccfc are at the whim of Seppala. So why don't the Trust or one of the various other protest groups do it?
Best Idea ever mentioned that isOne way to do some damage..........
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*Photo intended as a gag and I do not condone people going to the Ricoh "tooled up" with "shooters" stuffed inside their coats.*:cow:
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