The protest (4 Viewers)

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT · Feb 6, 2019

vow said:
Education and learning are fantastic, so please enlighten me on exactly we are protesting about?
A) Ground
B) Seppala and Fisher
C) Coventry City Council
D) Wasps
E) All Listed above
F) None listed above
G) One maybe Two listed above

Answer in your own time, cheers.

vow said:
Thanks hun, I thought it was good too, however, you still haven't answered the original question of what exactly are we meant to be protesting about?

Please use the A) to G) questionnaire if you can't think of an answer yourself.

Let's play the Jeremy Clarkson's who wants to be a millionaire show.

Jeremy , can I have 50/50 please.
OK computer, take away two wrong answers, leaving one right answer and one wrong answer.
No Jeremy that still doesn't help.

Jeremy, can I phone a friend please.
OK , the next voice you will hear will be your friend.
No Jeremy, my friend doesn't help.

Jeremy, can I ask the audience please.
OK audience press your buttons now please .
Sorry Jeremy, the audience hasn't helped.

Jeremy , can I ask the presenter please .
What you're asking me, we'll I don't f**king know.
Jeremy you are asking me all these questions and you don't f**king know.

Can I have your final answer please.
Yes Jeremy, my final answer is, your taking the piss.

Nick · Feb 6, 2019

Captain Dart said:
You posted 23 times in this thread, I made 4 so far.

Maybe we can compare matchday threads? Maybe we can compare transfer deadline day threads?

What's your point? Your prime interest isn't CCFC, it's the same as the other plebs in your weird Cov United circle. It's SISU.

Your whole account(s) existence is to just push propaganda.

Captain Dart · Feb 6, 2019

Nick said:
Maybe we can compare matchday threads? Maybe we can compare transfer deadline day threads?

What's your point? Your prime interest isn't CCFC, it's the same as the other plebs in your weird Cov United circle. It's SISU.

I haven't been to see Cov Utd this season. You see conspiracy everywhere when you have no actual proof.

Nick · Feb 6, 2019

Captain Dart said:
I haven't been to see Cov Utd this season. You see conspiracy everywhere when you have no actual proof.

My proof is your posts where you have discussed actual football matches regarding Cov Utd more than CCFC and your posts in threads like this: Coventry Sphinx & Coventry United Thread

I just see straight through you and your man Tim. Neither could give a toss about CCFC, it's all about SISU for some reason. Exactly the sorts who would rather see CCFC die thinking they had got one over on SISU.

Captain Dart · Feb 6, 2019

Nick said:
My proof is your posts where you have discussed actual football matches regarding Cov Utd more than CCFC and your posts in threads like this: Coventry Sphinx & Coventry United Thread

I just see straight through you and your man Tim. Neither could give a toss about CCFC, it's all about SISU for some reason. Exactly the sorts who would rather see CCFC die thinking they had got one over on SISU.

LOL, I have nothing to do with that guy, no idea who he is. I believe we follow each other on twitter but that is that.

As for SISU etc. things have moved on since the Northampton year and it is clear they will only leave on their terms.

No one is going to take over using a phoenix club, and SISU will not let the club die, that is obvious now, they've restructured the club, its academy training arrangements are on a firmer footing than 2 years ago, player assets in particular have been recruited with an eye to the future, costs have been trimmed and contained, all those actions are positive, they need to put the ground issue to bed though and either sell up to a new consortium or bring in investors who have a local connection.

Nick, you really need to be less myopic and look at the actual situation.

Nick · Feb 6, 2019

Captain Dart said:
LOL, I have nothing to do with that guy, no idea who he is. I believe we follow each other on twitter but that is that.

As for SISU etc. things have moved on since the Northampton year and it is clear they will only leave on their terms.

No one is going to take over using a phoenix club, and SISU will not let the club die, that is obvious now, they've restructured the club, its academy training arrangements are on a firmer footing than 2 years ago, player assets in particular have been recruited with an eye to the future, costs have been trimmed and contained, all those actions are positive, they need to put the ground issue to bed though and either sell up to a new consortium or bring in investors who have a local connection.

Nick, you really need to be less myopic and look at the actual situation.

I am looking at the exact situation. The one I am on about is that you don't give a shit about CCFC and are only interested in pushing a particular bit of propaganda. The link I just posted shows how you seem to have more of an interest in the goings on at Cov Utd than you do with the football side of CCFC.

This is where I point out people like LAST, BHSB, Adge, Juggy etc and others who you can tell are doing things for their love of CCFC rather than being snakes. This is the difference between people like that and people like you and Tim.

Captain Dart · Feb 6, 2019

Nick said:
I am looking at the exact situation. The one I am on about is that you don't give a shit about CCFC and are only interested in pushing a particular bit of propaganda. The link I just posted shows how you seem to have more of an interest in the goings on at Cov Utd than you do with the football side of CCFC.

This is where I point out people like LAST, BHSB, Adge, Juggy etc and others who you can tell are doing things for their love of CCFC rather than being snakes. This is the difference between people like that and people like you and Tim.

I just posted a summary of the way CCFC is being managed admitting a phoenix club is not an option and you attack me and accuse me of pushing a phoenix club agenda. You are really living in a strange place.

What actually is wrong with having an interest in local non-league football, there are plenty of people on this forum who do.

Nick · Feb 6, 2019

Captain Dart said:
I just posted a summary of the way CCFC is being managed admitting a phoenix club is not an option and you attack me and accuse me of pushing a phoenix club agenda. You are really living in a strange place.

Where have I said you are pushing a Phoenix Club agenda? I said you were more bothered about Cov United when it comes to football, which is how it is.

The link I just posted shows how you seem to have more of an interest in the goings on at Cov Utd than you do with the football side of CCFC.

Is it as strange as somebody who signs up with multiple accounts to a football club forum they have no interest in actually discussing?

Maybe if you could reply to the actual points made rather than making things up to go on about conspiracies / strangeness.

Captain Dart · Feb 6, 2019

Nick said:
Where have I said you are pushing a Phoenix Club agenda? I said you were more bothered about Cov United when it comes to football, which is how it is.

Is it as strange as somebody who signs up with multiple accounts to a football club forum they have no interest in actually discussing?

Maybe if you could reply to the actual points made rather than making things up to go on about conspiracies / strangeness.

I think if you checked you would find I have not posted about any non-league matter for ages, Jan 10, 2018 in the thread you indicated above.

Actually in the last few weeks I've mostly expressed opinions on players moving in or out in the recent transfer window as well as talking the usual bollocks in off topic and sticking my oar in on the Nuneaton, Albany meeting, Westminster debate, protest, but you have been far more active on all of those threads.

Nick · Feb 6, 2019

Captain Dart said:
I think if you checked you would find I have not posted about any non-league matter for over a year, Jan 10, 2018 in the thread you indicated above.

Actually in the last few weeks I've mostly expressed opinions on players moving in or out in the recent transfer window as well as talking the usual bollocks in off topic and sticking my oar in on the Nuneaton, Albany meeting, Westminster debate, protest, but you have been far more active on all of those threads.

I didn't say when or give timeframes did I? I said you show more interest in them than you do the football side regarding us.

You have no interest in Coventry City the football club, your interest is only SISU. So much so you strangely needed more than one account to get your points across for good measure.

That's my point. You don't fall into the BHSB, LAST et all category of doing things because of passion for CCFC. You fall into the sly, snakey category with the other Cov United fan.

Captain Dart · Feb 6, 2019

Nick said:
You have no interest in Coventry City the football club, your interest is only SISU.

Nonsense, I post plenty on football related matters and I've gone to CCFC matches on and off since the 1970's, its just at the moment I am not going and haven't been going since the Northampton season, which is why I restrict my posts to opinion on . When SISU go I will buy a season ticket again at the moment I chose not to attend.

Look at the evidence.

Magwitch · Feb 6, 2019

Meanwhile we still ain’t got a ground next season

Nick · Feb 6, 2019

Captain Dart said:
Nonsense, I post plenty on football related matters and I've gone to CCFC matches on and off since the 1970's, its just at the moment I am not going and haven't been going since the Northampton season, which is why I restrict my posts to opinion on . When SISU go I will buy a season ticket again at the moment I chose not to attend.

Look at the evidence.

I have posted the evidence and you have just confirmed it.

You don't go to CCFC games, you have been to Cov United games. You needed 2 accounts to then push things that weren't related to CCFC.

Explain to me how you are any different to the Tim bloke who works at the council and supports Cov United too? He doesn't go to CCFC games either but needs multiple accounts to try and push propaganda about it.

I look forward to seeing your input in the match threads coming up.

Captain Dart · Feb 6, 2019

Nick said:
I have posted the evidence and you have just confirmed it.

You don't go to CCFC games, you have been to Cov United games. You needed 2 accounts to then push things that weren't related to CCFC.

Explain to me how you are any different to the Tim bloke who works at the council and supports Cov United too? He doesn't go to CCFC games either but needs multiple accounts to try and push propaganda about it.

I look forward to seeing your input in the match threads coming up.

In what way is talking about the club finances and management not related to CCFC.

I have been to many CCFC games over the years, definitely over 500, probably somewhat more but I am not counting, its not as many as some but it is plenty. I expect I've been to maybe 50 Coventry Utd and/or Sphinx games since I stopped going up the Ricoh. I'm simply not going to see football games at the moment, I don't know why you have a problem with that, it isn't compulsory you know.

PS why do you say that Tim bloke works at the council, have you any evidence of such, there is nothing on his twitter profile to say so. To me he looks simply like an angry young man with strong opinions.

Nick · Feb 6, 2019

Captain Dart said:
In what way is talking about the club finances and management not related to CCFC.

I have been to many CCFC games over the years, definitely over 500, probably somewhat more but I am not counting, its not as many as some but it is plenty. I expect I've been to maybe 50 Coventry Utd and/or Sphinx games since I stopped going up the Ricoh. I'm simply not going to see football games at the moment, I don't know why you have a problem with that, it isn't compulsory you know.

Because your interest in just in SISU and you don't give a shit about CCFC as you keep proving time and time again. This makes you the same as the other clown (who strangely enough is also a fan of Coventry United, needs multiple accounts and has a strange thing about the council).

It's pretty simple to understand. You don't bother with the football club, yet you needed 2 accounts to push propaganda.

Put it this way, I owned a Ford Focus in about 2007. I haven't signed up on the Ford Focus owners with multiple accounts to post links without reading threads, post links to what Honda are doing over and over.

Captain Dart · Feb 6, 2019

Nick said:
Because your interest in just in SISU and you don't give a shit about CCFC as you keep proving time and time again. This makes you the same as the other clown (who strangely enough is also a fan of Coventry United, needs multiple accounts and has a strange thing about the council).

It's pretty simple to understand. You don't bother with the football club, yet you needed 2 accounts to push propaganda.

You keep repeating yourself and telling yourself you are right even though you have little evidence to back up your opinion.

I already explained in a PM what happened with those accounts and I think apologised you just chose not to believe me or accept my apology and keep using that in ad hominem attacks (3 or 4 times in this thread alone I think).

As I keep saying you see a conspiracy at every turn, there isn't one, I've not spoken face to face with any of my alleged co-conspirators in the last few years (if at all), though its true I have in the past spoken to David Johnson and a couple of other SBT people, but I haven't even bothered with SBT meetings in the last 2 years either. I content myself with comments on this forum, if you don't think they are appropriate then ban me but that will only prove you are not open to discussion or alternative points of view.

Nick · Feb 6, 2019

Captain Dart said:
You keep repeating yourself and telling yourself you are right even though you have little evidence to back up your opinion.

I already explained in a PM what happened with those accounts and I think apologised you just chose not to believe me or accept my apology and keep using that in ad hominem attacks (3 or 4 times in this thread alone I think).

As I keep saying you see a conspiracy at every turn, there isn't one, I've not spoken face to face with any of my alleged co-conspirators in the last few years (if at all), though its true I have in the past spoken to David Johnson and a couple of other SBT people, but I haven't even bothered with SBT meetings in the last 2 years either. I content myself with comments on this forum, if you don't think they are appropriate then ban me but that will only prove you are not open to discussion or alternative points of view.

I am right though, the evidence is what you do and what you don't post on. The evidence is that you then needed multiple accounts to then post more on non CCFC things.

Where have I said they are your co-conspirators? You are reading things that aren't there.

I point out you are no different to them. Like I said, reply to the actual points rather than make things up.

I have pointed out that I can see right through people like you and the other Cov United fan. It's not really that hard, neither of you have an interest in CCFC but will use multiple accounts to try and push things and claim outrage if the club is moved even though you have no intention to go to games.

Deleted member 5849 · Feb 6, 2019

Captain Dart said:
In what way is talking about the club finances and management not related to CCFC.

I have been to many CCFC games over the years, definitely over 500, probably somewhat more but I am not counting, its not as many as some but it is plenty. I expect I've been to maybe 50 Coventry Utd and/or Sphinx games since I stopped going up the Ricoh. I'm simply not going to see football games at the moment, I don't know why you have a problem with that, it isn't compulsory you know.

PS why do you say that Tim bloke works at the council, have you any evidence of such, there is nothing on his twitter profile to say so. To me he looks simply like an angry young man with strong opinions.

Personally I don't agree with you half the time (and on the off-topic bit I think you spout a load of bollocks, in particular) but I will defend your right to say it...

Nick · Feb 6, 2019

Deleted member 5849 said:
Personally I don't agree with you half the time (and on the off-topic bit I think you spout a load of bollocks, in particular) but I will defend your right to say it...

Equally it's my right to point out if people have agendas behind it rather than doing so because of their love of CCFC.

vow · Feb 6, 2019

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
Let's play the Jeremy Clarkson's who wants to be a millionaire show.

Jeremy , can I have 50/50 please.
OK computer, take away two wrong answers, leaving one right answer and one wrong answer.
No Jeremy that still doesn't help.

Jeremy, can I phone a friend please.
OK , the next voice you will hear will be your friend.
No Jeremy, my friend doesn't help.

Jeremy, can I ask the audience please.
OK audience press your buttons now please .
Sorry Jeremy, the audience hasn't helped.

Jeremy , can I ask the presenter please .
What you're asking me, we'll I don't f**king know.
Jeremy you are asking me all these questions and you don't f**king know.

Can I have your final answer please.
Yes Jeremy, my final answer is, your taking the piss.

I asked the audience and there is still no definitive answer apart from a couple of well educated guesses/replies from @Sky Blue Pete and @Irish Sky Blue which you will find I have agreed with.

Relax a bit m8.

Deleted member 5849 · Feb 6, 2019

Nick said:
Equally it's my right to point out if people have agendas behind it rather than doing so because of their love of CCFC.

I genuinely think he / she / they does love CCFC. They've been about since GMK days. So they're disillusioned with the club and its owners? That's hardly a revelation. So they don't have anything to add if they're not going to games? Again, hardly a shock.

Play the ball, not the man.

Nick · Feb 6, 2019

Deleted member 5849 said:
I genuinely think he / she / they does love CCFC. They've been about since GMK days. So they're disillusioned with the club and its owners? That's hardly a revelation. So they don't have anything to add if they're not going to games? Again, hardly a shock.

Play the ball, not the man.

The ball gets played time and time again.

They clearly aren't that bothered about the club any more. The same as I'm not bothered about the Ford Focus any more.

Passion for CCFC isn't sitting at home banging on about protests with no interest in CCFC and going to watch Cov United. It's as useful as me banging on and on about passion for my local pub being shut down even though I never go there.

cov soul · Feb 6, 2019

Deleted member 5849 said:
Seems nobody knows what anybody is doing to help.

maybe we need the sky blue army to join together and fight to keep this club alive ?

Nick · Feb 6, 2019

cov soul said:
maybe we need the sky blue army to join together and fight to keep this club alive ?

What do you suggest?

Captain Dart · Feb 6, 2019

Nick said:
I am right though, the evidence is what you do and what you don't post on. The evidence is that you then needed multiple accounts to then post more on non CCFC things.

Where have I said they are your co-conspirators? You are reading things that aren't there.

I point out you are no different to them. Like I said, reply to the actual points rather than make things up.

I have pointed out that I can see right through people like you and the other Cov United fan. It's not really that hard, neither of you have an interest in CCFC but will use multiple accounts to try and push things and claim outrage if the club is moved even though you have no intention to go to games.

So are you saying there is no conspiracy just people who disageee with you. Is that a problem, I thought open discussion with civil disagreements is the life blood of a forum like this.

What exactly have I made up? I've provably expressed opinions you may disagree with but what have I said that is a mistruth?

I'm still wondering why you think this Tim fellah is a council employee. In fact I think I was branded a council employee at one time, but I have never worked for CCC or any CC in the CCFC catchement area. I did work for a council engineers dept for 2 yrs in the late 70s, that was more than enough for me!

Ps I am rerired now.

Nick · Feb 6, 2019

Captain Dart said:
So are you saying there is no conspiracy just people who disageee with you.

What exactly have I made up? I've provably expressed opinions you may disagree with but what have I said that is a mistruth?

I'm still wondering why you think this Tim fellah is a council employee. In fact I think I was branded a council employee at one time, but I have never worked for CCC or any CC in the CCFC catchement area. I did work for a council engineers dept for 2 yrs in the late 70s, that was more than enough for me!

Ps I am rerired now.

Where have I said anything about a conspiracy? They seem to be your words.

It isn't hard to find out, put his name into Google (that's even without the LinkedIn which showed his job title that has since been removed).

Captain Dart · Feb 6, 2019

Nick said:
Where have I said anything about a conspiracy? They seem to be your words.

It isn't hard to find out, put his name into Google (that's even without the LinkedIn which showed his job title that has since been removed).

Are we talking about the same person? All I know about is someone called Tim who posts as fisherbaiter on twitter.

Nick · Feb 6, 2019

Captain Dart said:
Are we talking about the same person? All I know if someone called Tim who posts as fisherbaiter on twitter.

Yep.

Captain Dart · Feb 6, 2019

Nick said:
Yep.

Well I've no idea how to trace a linkedin account from knowledge of a twitter account.
You must have his real name (which I don't wish to know and don't think you should make public).
I don't know or care who he is.

Nick · Feb 6, 2019

Captain Dart said:
Well I've no idea how to trace a linkedin account from knowledge of a twitter account.
You must have his real name (which I don't wish to know and don't think you should make public).
I don't know or care who he is.

The Trust made this public in their minutes.

There's no conspiracy.

Captain Dart · Feb 6, 2019

Nick said:
The Trust made this public in their minutes.

There's no conspiracy.

Shows you how much I'm paying attention then, I didn't read or see any minutes, where are they.

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Feb 6, 2019

cov soul said:
maybe we need the sky blue army to join together and fight to keep this club alive ?

Thats exactly what is needed, the problem is that the Sky Blue Army are split into seperate camps as to who we need to pressurise.

Some only want to target SISU, some want to target Wasps.

Nick · Feb 6, 2019

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Thats exactly what is needed, the problem is that the Sky Blue Army are split into seperate camps as to who we need to pressurise.

Some only want to target SISU, some want to target Wasps.

Some would prefer to target them all.

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT · Feb 6, 2019

Nick said:
You were all worked up in this thread at people asking you what the protest was about before I even said anything to you. Don't bullshit.

I wasn't all worked up, that's just you putting your usual spin on it, I was just stating the obvious, "11 years "
Anyone leaving the Ricoh could hear the chanting and anyone listing to CWR could here what they were protesting about.

But because it doesn't suit your agenda you stick your nose in with your snidey remarks and trying to undermine me and others.

And just for the record I'll say it again if our football club ends up in non-league or worst, then Sisu the council and the landlords are ALL to blame.

Nick said:
Have you got covkidsneverquit blocked?

It started by people being constructive and asking about it. He then sneered that they should know.

Pete was more constructive and got constructive replies. Of course any action should primarily be about a deal (for now).

As I said earlier, just because people aren't trying to climb inside each other because they said #sisuout and actually ask questions to figure things out for themselves it seems to upset people.

I wasn't sneering at anyone , that's just you putting your usual spin on it and you talk about people who talk BULLSHIT.

Nick · Feb 6, 2019

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
I wasn't all worked up, that's just you putting your usual spin on it, I was just stating the obvious, "11 years "
Anyone leaving the Ricoh could hear the chanting and anyone listing to CWR could here what they were protesting about.

But because it doesn't suit your agenda you stick your nose in with your snidey remarks and trying to undermine me and others.

And just for the record I'll say it again if our football club ends up in non-league or worst, then Sisu the council and the landlords are ALL to blame.

I wasn't sneering at anyone , that's just you putting your usual spin on it and you talk about people who talk BULLSHIT.

I didn't know anything about the protest personally until I got home and it looks like others didn't either.

Here are examples of your "sneering"

Where have you two been for the last 11 years ?

And you still don't know what's it's allabout .

The football club could be heading towards oblivion and some fans just moan and do nothing.

You keep asking what are we meant to be protesting about,

I'll give you a clue , it's has something to do with the last 11 years.

Sorry but if you don't know by now, you never will .

They were in response to other people and not me, multiple people also questioned you about them.

There is no spin, it's just as per usual you not understanding something quite straight forward.

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