The SISU situation is affecting our home attendances (1 Viewer)

Voice_of_Reason · Jan 12, 2013

I believe the uncertainty of the Club's future is affecting the attendances at the Ricoh. Of course, we "diehards" will go no matter what, but there must be several thousand more who would go if the SISU situation was sorted out. The missing thousands no longer have faith in the club's future and are therefore hesitant to go. I honestly believe that a) if the Club's future was secured and b) we were in a play off position with matches to play then our gates would rocket to around 18,000. The team has brought a lot more confidence back (thank you MR) but not knowing if the club will go into Administration (or even worse Liquidation) must surely be in the back of the stay aways. What do you think ? SISU needs to give the stay aways confidence in the club's future.

stupot07 · Jan 12, 2013

Is there any uncertainty? I don't think they will either liquidate or put us in admin. I don't think ACL will push it that far either.

I think this is just another convenient excuse for the stay always tbh.

torchomatic · Jan 12, 2013

Ah, don't forget loads of people aren't attending the Ricoh until SISU have gone so that explains all the empty seats. I bet they're annoyed at missing the JPT semi-final.

coundonskyblue · Jan 12, 2013

Giving us a successful team will bring crowds back more than anything.

torchomatic · Jan 12, 2013

Apart from the ones who will never come to a home game while SISU are here, of course.

coundonskyblue said:
Giving us a successful team will bring crowds back more than anything.

coundonskyblue · Jan 12, 2013

torchomatic said:
Apart from the ones who will never come to a home game while SISU are here, of course.

I don't like Sisu, but I still go to games. If Sisu give us a winning team then I and all other fans will have no reason dislike them.

lordsummerisle · Jan 12, 2013

Wouldn't be any uncertainty if we had more people going anyway.

torchomatic · Jan 12, 2013

I know what you're saying, but there were quite a few who said they weren't going while they were here. I would be interested to know how many there are and whether they will relax their stance for the JPT SF.

coundonskyblue said:
I don't like Sisu, but I still go to games. If Sisu give us a winning team then I and all other fans will have no reason dislike them.

Baginton · Jan 12, 2013

over 10,000 is 'alright' for the third division

Paxman II · Jan 12, 2013

Good post but I actually can't agree with this. Football support for me is far more fickle than that.

Take a look at many owners of football clubs and you will see that there are plenty that are 'hated' and complained about. Plenty that are thought to be doing the clubs that they preside over no good at all.

The reality is far more simple. Success on the pitch will bring back the missing fan base. Does anyone really care who owns CCFC if we are in a playoff final in May? No I don't think so.
There will always be concerns and we probably just about all agree SISU have been among (and I say among, as there have been others) the worse owners of CCFC but if we have some success on the pitch then I won't worry too much about not going up the Ricoh because I don't like them? Those few that do should be careful what they wish for...

Grendel · Jan 12, 2013

torchomatic said:
Apart from the ones who will never come to a home game while SISU are here, of course.

I assume sisu will receive some gate receipts of they reach Wembley. On that basis I assume these people would also boycott the final as well.

Otis · Jan 12, 2013

Didn't a lot of people also say they wouldn't come back to the Ricoh while Marlon King was at the club.

Glad they all came back.

Though oddly enough the attendances dropped.

No doubt the people who won't go while Sisu are at the club will come back once they have left and the attendances will drop further.

NINOOVCOV · Jan 12, 2013

The real reason is a lot of Cov supporters have got used to not going because of years of under performing and prices. So when Cov put tickets prices down for the odd game there really is no change. Add to that the fan base is not getting any new members things look very grim.

Sky Blue Pete · Jan 12, 2013

Voice_of_Reason said:
I believe the uncertainty of the Club's future is affecting the attendances at the Ricoh. Of course, we "diehards" will go no matter what, but there must be several thousand more who would go if the SISU situation was sorted out. The missing thousands no longer have faith in the club's future and are therefore hesitant to go. I honestly believe that a) if the Club's future was secured and b) we were in a play off position with matches to play then our gates would rocket to around 18,000. The team has brought a lot more confidence back (thank you MR) but not knowing if the club will go into Administration (or even worse Liquidation) must surely be in the back of the stay aways. What do you think ? SISU needs to give the stay aways confidence in the club's future.

Excuses, excuses, excuses!!

CCFC_Charlie · Jan 12, 2013

If this was the case then why did Shrewsbury - our first home games after it was revealed that SISU had not reached an agreement for the rent by the Boxing Day deadline - see us have our highest attendance of the season? Form is what brings the crowds in and form is what drives them away.

Lets all sing together · Jan 12, 2013

Voice_of_Reason said:
I believe the uncertainty of the Club's future is affecting the attendances at the Ricoh. Of course, we "diehards" will go no matter what, but there must be several thousand more who would go if the SISU situation was sorted out. The missing thousands no longer have faith in the club's future and are therefore hesitant to go. I honestly believe that a) if the Club's future was secured and b) we were in a play off position with matches to play then our gates would rocket to around 18,000. The team has brought a lot more confidence back (thank you MR) but not knowing if the club will go into Administration (or even worse Liquidation) must surely be in the back of the stay aways. What do you think ? SISU needs to give the stay aways confidence in the club's future.

supporting my club should be enough to tempt me to the ricoh but SISU and the issues piss me off so i just like to go for a day out to the away games now

skybluehugh · Jan 12, 2013

torchomatic said:
I know what you're saying, but there were quite a few who said they weren't going while they were here. I would be interested to know how many there are and whether they will relax their stance for the JPT SF.

I'm one and no I won't.

stupot07 · Jan 12, 2013

We've won 10 league games in 18 and ammassed 34 points under Robins, we've also got to the 'area final' of the JTP and are in touching distance of the play offs, yet still they don't come back.

ohitsaidwalker king power · Jan 12, 2013

If we have even a sniff at the play offs come the last 3-4 home games I would be disappointed with only 18,000. Hartlepool, Doncaster, Brentford and Orient.. SISU or not if beating Brentford and/or Orient means sealing our place in the play offs or other(better) the masses will return- and they'll be most welcome... hypocrites, bandwagoners..? it matters not... let 'em come:claping hands:

skybluesteve76 · Jan 12, 2013

I don't think it's got anything to do with SISU!
It's because we are league one and long suffering.
Our home and away attendances are very near the top of the averages for our league.

Sutty · Jan 12, 2013

I can't wait for the train station to be built. That will put 15,000 more on the gate, no problem.

Mr T - Sukka! · Jan 13, 2013

Voice_of_Reason said:
I believe the uncertainty of the Club's future is affecting the attendances at the Ricoh. Of course, we "diehards" will go no matter what, but there must be several thousand more who would go if the SISU situation was sorted out. The missing thousands no longer have faith in the club's future and are therefore hesitant to go. I honestly believe that a) if the Club's future was secured and b) we were in a play off position with matches to play then our gates would rocket to around 18,000. The team has brought a lot more confidence back (thank you MR) but not knowing if the club will go into Administration (or even worse Liquidation) must surely be in the back of the stay aways. What do you think ? SISU needs to give the stay aways confidence in the club's future.

15k against Shrewsbury.
12k against Preston.

These are very good gates for League 1 and JPT, so no gates are increasing. Sort of pisses on the flames of people who knock attendances.

10k away for the last 2 away games also! Deluded fans who think attendances are low!

SBT · Jan 13, 2013

It's the casual fans who are missing, the attendances will only recover when they come back, and most of them probably don't know who our keeper is, let alone the owners.

coundonskyblue · Jan 13, 2013

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stupot07 said:
We've won 10 league games in 18 and ammassed 34 points under Robins, we've also got to the 'area final' of the JTP and are in touching distance of the play offs, yet still they don't come back.

The fact you consider this 'success' shows just what is wrong with our club.

All we have done is won a couple of games!

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Jan 13, 2013

stupot07 said:
Is there any uncertainty? I don't think they will either liquidate or put us in admin. I don't think ACL will push it that far either.

I think this is just another convenient excuse for the stay always tbh.

All this uncertainty is papers an press looking to make a story with headlines like 'Coventry to go out of business' etc.

I don't think home attendances have been affected really, if we continue to win games an specially if we can start to win home games will start to see 17k regularly if we can creep closer to them play off positions

ohitsaidwalker king power · Jan 13, 2013

coundonskyblue said:
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The fact you consider this 'success' shows just what is wrong with our club.

All we have done is won a couple of games!

But every soaring Oak tree starts life as an Acorn....?

torchomatic · Jan 13, 2013

This kind of post always makes me smile.

So what do you consider success? We used to be Premiership so I presume getting promoted to the Championship and then promotion to the Premiership would not be success as that's where we belong? Top six Premiership?

People support their club not by the measure of success but because simply that is their club. Look at all the people that support teams like Chester, Shrewsbury, Bury, etc teams that have been down in the lower league (and worse) for years. How do they measure success? Or do they support their team anyway?

coundonskyblue said:
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The fact you consider this 'success' shows just what is wrong with our club.

All we have done is won a couple of games!

Macca · Jan 13, 2013

People going to higher profile games shocker.

rupert_bear · Jan 13, 2013

Support is earned and many of those who don't go gave up over the years simply because the product has been poor and hope another important ingredient has been non existent for years. We have a bit of hope now and interest has increased, interest is the first thing actually bothering your arse to go is the next. We have to turn the Ricoh into a fortress and put teams like Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe to the sword. 15000 home support for the Shrewsbury game was pretty good but we lost, played okay and a bit unlucky but we lost.
A lot depends on what or if our owners allow MR to do player recruitment wise to carry on our improved form IMO we need a couple of players in on loan, permanent doesn't matter but it shows intent from SISU.

BurbageSkyBlues · Jan 13, 2013

I have supported the Sky Blues for over forty years, having a season ticket for some of them, but not all. This has been influenced by where I have lived, who has been able to attend games with me, and the stage of my life (family, children etc).

However, two years ago, I decided that I could not trust Sisu, so did not renew the season tickets for myself and my granddaughter. There were also other influences, such as the atmosphere that was developing around us, and I was not prepared to subject a five year old that sort of hostility.

Now, my attendance is occasional, home and away. Until I have faith in Sisu running the club honestly, and feel able to trust them with my money up front, I will not buy a season ticket. I know others, long term supporters like me, who feel the same.

So for me, their behaviour has influenced the attendances, but I appreciate that it may be different for others.

rupert_bear · Jan 13, 2013

Our home support has never been higher than 19000 for 30 years or more, that was more or less the home fan capacity of Highfield Road, the other 4050 was away fans. When we moved to the Ricoh the home support went up a bit but settled at around 17/18000 for a while but dwindled as our fortunes plumeted, so this mantra on here about stay away fans is rubbish. Relegatin to the third division was always going to effect attendances.
As for so called glory fans going to Wembley if we get there, so what. If we do all my lot will go including the missus, grand kids one who is only 1 year old and if a regular misses out tough shit.

stupot07 · Jan 13, 2013

coundonskyblue said:
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The fact you consider this 'success' shows just what is wrong with our club.

All we have done is won a couple of games!

I'm not saying this is success, but things are on the up, and people were saying start winning games a d moving up the table and people will come back. We had a decent crowd vs Shrewsbury, but that was the not home game in the festive period and likely to be a one off.

Similar size clubs to us managed to average much higher crowd than us during their stint in league one.

Sheffield united c18k
Sheffield Wednesday c21k
Charlton 17.5k
Southampon c21-22k even in the fist season when they struggled but won the JPT
Norwich 24.5k
Leeds 24.8k -
Leicester 20k
Forest 20-28k
Swansea 13.5k

Even Portsmouth are averaging an extra 2k more than us. Huddlesfield averaged 14-16k for the last 4-5 seasons in league one , Bradford averged nearly 12k a couple of season ago in league two

dongonzalos · Jan 13, 2013

I am sure the whole rent think is putting some off. As they probably expect it all to go Pete Tong due to SISU's history.

I know a couple of people who after they sacked the manager after three games (they were not massive AT fans)
However this plus the rent was the final straw they started holding back their hard earned money and time.

However the recent success even they have been contemplating coming back. Success on the pitch will always win fans over eventually.

mrtrench · Jan 13, 2013

As I live miles away I only ever attended 3 or 4 times per season, but I stopped going when we signed Marlon King and have lost the habit. I still go to away games close to where I live.

coundonskyblue · Jan 13, 2013

rupert_bear said:
Our home support has never been higher than 19000 for 30 years or more, that was more or less the home fan capacity of Highfield Road, the other 4050 was away fans. When we moved to the Ricoh the home support went up a bit but settled at around 17/18000 for a while but dwindled as our fortunes plumeted, so this mantra on here about stay away fans is rubbish. Relegatin to the third division was always going to effect attendances.
As for so called glory fans going to Wembley if we get there, so what. If we do all my lot will go including the missus, grand kids one who is only 1 year old and if a regular misses out tough shit.

The last few years at HR had averages of well over 20k

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