James Smith
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General Secretary of the UN.
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Who on earth is 'Ban Ki-Moon'?
I thought that CCC offered that deal months ago, only for Fisher to say 'we can't deal with them, we've moved on' or words to that effect. I personally can't believe anything from TF, ML, JS or any of them.
Exactly. Absolute joker ! Sisu have been the ones waiting for the judicial review and not negotiating. Offers have been made by acl and rejected. Freehold or judicial review is what they've been saying. It's been pathetic bullyboy tactics all the way and most fans are sick of it. Whatever the faults of the council and acl, sisus behaviour and total disregard for the club and the fans (all for their own gain) has been unforgivable.
I think it was early on day 1, sisu's QC trying to say that £200k was rent. Judge said it wasn't rent it was matchday costs, the £1.3m was the rent
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Were you aware that the £400,000 offer went back up to £1.3 million after 3 seasons?
Were you aware that the £400,000 offer went back up to £1.3 million after 3 seasons?
Is this an offer that it's claimed Fisher agreed to, and then Joy stopped?
"He said: "We are always open to talks. Me and Mr Byng worked hard behind the scenes to try and get a phone call between the council and Sisu about a fortnight ago which we hoped would get them back to the table."
What's Byng got to do with it? Wasn't he supposed to be a 'rival bidder' for SISU before pulling out / not making a bid after all? Was that all just a bluff?
Were you aware that the £400,000 offer went back up to £1.3 million after 3 seasons?
MMM who just can't accept that and have to continuously be obnoxious.
Well why not? It would show on CCC's defence that they have always been willing to discuss any negotiations with Sisu/CCFC.. Surely that can only go in there favour?
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Well you continue on your "can't do no right from wrong mindset" because it's working wonders, you and many others have been moaning for months that Sisu haven't stepped up to negotiate with CCC yet the moment they try to make a call to get round the table, you can't see the good in it you just continuously undermine what they have done? Is there any point with people like you who can never be satisfied..
Well I thought you would have some really intelligent put down lined up.
I thought a man of your superiority could come up with something better than a regurgitated version of what I posted.
Losing your touch bud.
Look. Try and think it through. Tell me anything Labovitch has done other than inflame any given situation? Seriously. Tell me.
Then, this 'pantomime baddie' wants a cosy chat with CCC/ACL two weeks before his employer is taking them to court.
And you congratulate him?
Bloody hell. You redefine gullible
At least Mark Labovich has tried to being these parties round the table.. Yes the timing could have been better and I indicated this in a earlier post, that said if CCC had said yes I am not sure how it could of gone against them in court and this whole thing could have been sorted.
Yet with yourself there always has to be one thing or another that makes something not good enough..
Why not answer any of the post I made instead of saying that?
You say he tried to bring everyone around the table. Do you think it was for something that could have been offered? And yes I see the timing as a reason for it to be a freehold or nothing plan. Then he can tell us all that they wanted to talk but CCC won't. And as we can see some will believe every word he says.....and even believe words he never said.
Hang on a minute I was replying to MMM, don't worry Astute I'll come back to you shortly!
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Robo, are you still on for a pint tonight?
Yeah pal I'll be there !
I should be there around 8.
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So do you know what the call was about Rob?
None of us know what the call was about. But we can take an educated guess. To me if the call was about a rental agreement he would have said that they contacted CCC about a rental agreement. But he said that they contacted the council about an agreement to bring our club home. So the odds are to me was that it was about the freehold. See if CCC would back down two weeks before the JR. So they make the call and then can say that they tried to sort out the mess they caused. Try to make CCC look the bad boys again. All part of the PR campaign. And if I am wrong why is Labo going on about building a stadium again?
You said that it would show that in CCC's defence that it would be shown that they have always been willing to discuss any negotiations with SISU. And that it could go in their favour. CCC/ACL have tried a fair few times to negotiate. It is SISU and Joy that won't negotiate. Or will negotiate and then back out of any agreement. This includes when they could have had a 50% share of the lease that could have been extended to the planned life of the stadium. But it seems that only the freehold will do. Why is this? A 99 year lease would have about the same value of the freehold and would be cheaper to buy into.
You also said that we can't see the good in it and just continuously undermine what they have done. It is more like point out what they have done and will continue to point out what they are doing. They have done such a joke of a job with our club that they don't need undermining. Never be satisfied? What they are after would take state aid. And at a time where are cuts to all budgets. It would also mean Higgs losing out. But how can they expect state aid to help them that there are no funds for especially after the JR that was supposedly about state aid? I for one will never be satisfied whilst they are after something they can't have by law when they say nothing else will do. Why do you think that they have been saying that the JR is just a sideshow?
I was expecting to see something come out of the JR where I could see CCC at fault. All I can see them at fault for maybe is a technicality. Yes the rent was set too high, but were we to expect CCC to put taxpayers money in whilst the arena wasn't bringing any income in? That would have been state aid. And it isn't the job of a local council to prop up a football club.
General Secretary of the UN.Because getting the UN involved normally solves all disputes.
There are no certainties as to what the call was regarding Astute and therefore I won't guess as to what it was. However what I will say is that any form of discussion regarding bringing the Club home is good and I am sure that CCC rejected the chance because of the JR and nothing else.
Maybe in an ideal world it would be ideal I won't argue with you on that point, but as we have spoken previously CCFC's assets and finances being all over the place it has been established that if you buy the Higgs share of ACL you don't purchase into any extra revenues, but then IEC have a share and the Council have a share, then there is compass, you can sort of see where this is going! It's all over the fooking place! Sisu are obviously thinking that buying into the Freehold gets them the whole lot with a lot less hassle and I don't blame them!
Higgs losing out? Wasn't it just recently that it was revealed that the Higgs share of ACL means squat? Meaning £0. Yet the Higgs still price it at £6.5M..
And that's exactly the point no we shouldn't of expected it, ACL is a separate business to the Council, ACL needs to maximise itself most profitable and not rely on the Council..
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Where are all the facts ml said would come out? He really is an arse
FFS people get the owners they deserve.
Can't believe after stringing everyone along with this conspiracy stuff that people are still taking them at their word. Hey, did you hear we are getting stadium plans in three weeks?
I bet Fisher and Labovitch come on here and piss themselves laughing at the people sticking up for them. I know I would.
Also, IMO it's fairly obvious he was talking about negotiations for freehold if you read the interview. He says "the council aren't interested in selling us the stadium" (paraphrasing).
100% as I see it, but because the info came from SISU we are left to read between the lines to find the truth. It can be easy to be mislead by them.
At least Mark Labovich has tried to being these parties round the table.. Yes the timing could have been better and I indicated this in a earlier post, that said if CCC had said yes I am not sure how it could of gone against them in court and this whole thing could have been sorted.
Yet with yourself there always has to be one thing or another that makes something not good enough..
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There is nothing stopping the council talking to SISU. It would support their case in some respects and demonstrate that the loan to ACL would help to facilitate rental negotiations.
There is nothing stopping the council talking to SISU. It would support their case in some respects and demonstrate that the loan to ACL would help to facilitate rental negotiations.
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