We have 'potential' but that doesn't make us a 'giant'.
We are at best an upper championship/lower PL club, we're not a 'giant'. Sorry, I just don't like the term, bit like 'legend.
Funny also you mention Derby's investment they have hardly spent anything in the last 2 seasons, have done it against a back drop of slashing the wage bill, and we're still getting 23-26k finished mid table in the championship.
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It's an ambiguous term used clumsily in the context of football by many. Sleeping giant; many would describe us as that. Many would argue it's a silly term. Both have points for and against. However, I think we currently have bigger fish to fry then debating a saying.
Makes a difference from a investment perspective, but we would not cost as much as Derby did to purchase would we? we then would have a greater chance of obtaining a % of the Ricoh if desired OR actually building a stadium if one of these backers was serious however we are getting too ahead of ourselves, it was most likely analyse information being published in the Sun newspaper.
In terms of Derby attracting the crowds they do, owning their own stadium makes no difference whatsoever, they have the product on the pitch which attracts the paying customer, football being an entertainment business at the end of the day, and are reaping the rewards challenging at the top end of the championship.
Why would we have a greater chance of getting some of the Ricoh. Wasps own it now, it's up to them, isn't it? Why would they want to dilute their own income when they haven't established themselves in the area.
I agree with your second point, however to get a great team we need income to buy the players in the first place. We don't get the income because we get small crowds in a rented stadium.
The ole vicious circle thing.
Why would we have a greater chance of getting some of the Ricoh. Wasps own it now, it's up to them, isn't it? Why would they want to dilute their own income when they haven't established themselves in the area.
I agree with your second point, however to get a great team we need income to buy the players in the first place. We don't get the income because we get small crowds in a rented stadium.
The ole vicious circle thing.
I think we would possibly have a greater chance of obtaining some of the Ricoh if a billionaire decided to use us as their toy as A they would have deep pockets and most likely be able to establish greater financial links which would help both parties, or B give Wasps X amount and tell them this is their toy.
Wasps talk a good game with wanting our club at the stadium at the moment, of course they will do as we are paying them rent which helps towards the income for them, however, what if the relationship with SISU turns stale.
Again, we are getting way to speculative with a piece of analysis information published in the Sun newspaper.
Sisu Toxic debt.
And a play thing would be worse that sisu. I do not care get rid of sisu and play around all you like
Anyone got a link to the sun article?
It won't be us. I'd also be very wary. Any club they take over would be just a play thing until they get bored.
Again, not disagreeing but too many "what if's". Even if a billionaire did by some miracle come along and buy us I'd want us to get the Ricoh outright and ditch Wasps completely. They're the cuckoos, make them build their own stadium.
Never happen anyway.
You don’t think such an investor would see Wasps as the main attraction, given that they (at least currently) have far more big games than us and they are a magnet to lucrative sponsors?
Torch, it’s obvious from everything you post that you love CCFC, probably even more than most on here, which I’ll bet everyone massively respects regardless of all the in-fighting. If I’m honest, I sometimes wish I still had sky blue specs like you do, but having worn them since I was six I seem to have lost them
Wasps have moved to Coventry and it’s vital that we work with them. Bitterness about their takeover, and the stadium purchase by CCFC that you think nearly happened but in reality was never close, is not going to help that.
I still think that the Ricoh with BOTH clubs is FAR more viable than with either one of them on their own. If I was this imaginary billionaire, I’d look at the Ricoh/CCFC/Wasps and see far more potential than in any of the other clubs mentioned in the Sun (looks like I've found my sky blue specs again!).
I thought that Financial Fair Play (FFP) put pay to any new club with rich owners disrupting the status quo at the top. I am sure FFP is illegal as it restricts competitive trade and is currently being challenged. So at the moment how can a Billionaire's finances take a new club to the top??
Anyhow good luck in your search for replacing SISU
I thought that Financial Fair Play (FFP) put pay to any new club with rich owners disrupting the status quo at the top. I am sure FFP is illegal as it restricts competitive trade and is currently being challenged. So at the moment how can a Billionaire's finances take a new club to the top??
Anyhow good luck in your search for replacing SISU
This is another thing. We have to live within our means so what good would having loads of money be. Not as if the new owners could sponsor our stadium for a huge amount to get around it!
I thought that Financial Fair Play (FFP) put pay to any new club with rich owners disrupting the status quo at the top. I am sure FFP is illegal as it restricts competitive trade and is currently being challenged. So at the moment how can a Billionaire's finances take a new club to the top??
Anyhow good luck in your search for replacing SISU
That Sun article was supposedly written by their city editor, but appeared to be written by the tea boy on his lunch break. Purely speculative and their crack team of researchers couldn't even come up with who owns Cambridge United (who I bet only appeared on their radar after they were on telly on Friday night).
I know.Yes but its nice to dream that one day SISU will be gone.
realistically the worst case scenario with a billionaire taking over with us as their play thing is they invest alot into the playing squad but nothing into infrastructure, we get promoted to the championship, a very expensive playing squad is assembled with a very large yearly wage bill, we fail for a couple of years at getting to the premiership, the Billionaire says screw this, not putting anymore money in, we can't afford our players, we go into administration and get relegated. This is the pretty much the worst case realistic scenario and it's massively preferable to the current scenario imo. I don't think that leaves us in a worse place than now.
I know.
Hopefully MK Dons will be bought by a Russian billionaire and moved there too, see how they like it.
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