Please God no, not Mad Mick! He's a dinosaur. And I don't know about "one of the strongest squads in the division"-many of the new players are unknown quantities, and the ones I've seen so far look crap. But Thorn is bound to take the brunt of the criticism as we are seen as a big club at this level. He isn't inspiring any confidence in me any longer, but I hope it all clicks against Yeovil and my fears are brushed aside. If it doesn't, lets go for a proven lower-league manager, someone up-and-coming. Try and find the next O'Neill or Lambert, not go for a hasbeen/never-was figure. McCarthy would be far too much like Reid for my liking.
Wow !
The words Mick McCarthy and prolific manager in the same sentence.
My problem with this 'Thorn has the worst win record' argument is that the managers didn't all have the same budgets and squad strength so how can there win records be compared with each others.
I think the "thorn has the worst win record for a 100 yrs" line is a pretty loud alam bell.
And it´s still ringing.
Snooze?
I think the "thorn has the worst win record for a 100 yrs" line is a pretty loud alam bell.
And it´s still ringing.
Snooze?
I agree. Last season the squad was torn apart and not patched up.
This season it has been patched up, but how good are the replacements? It will take them time to gel. We need to be a little patient.
I find it hard to believe that we don't have WUM's on here that say AT done much worse with a squad everyone admitted was poor and too small than managers that had players in recent years like King, Westwood, Turner and in fact many more players I can't be bothered to list that have gone onto better things and we still ended up near the bottom of the table.
sounds llike preparing for future excuse making to me
sounds llike preparing for future excuse making to me
Thorn hater
Sounds like someone who can't see the woods for the trees to me.
yes yes...but what good things has he done...?
Resorting to childishness - very telling.
Wow !
The words Mick McCarthy and prolific manager in the same sentence.
My problem with this 'Thorn has the worst win record' argument is that the managers didn't all have the same budgets and squad strength so how can there win records be compared with each others.
When AT took over we were playing the worse style of play I have ever seen us do week in week out. It was bad enough at the start of the season when we got a couple of lucky wins. We made it into the top 6 giving us false hopes. Then we went into freefall once our opponents worked out how to play against us. When AT took over we were suddenly plaaying the way most fans wanted is to, and we went from losing just about every game to only losing 3 in the last 10.
It can't happen now, but I would have loved to see what AT could have done with the squad he had ripped apart on him to be replaced with youth players before they were ready.
That's funny. McCarthy's management record of 2 football league championships is not good enough apparently. He has managed under resourced teams in the top flight and a nation that is never going to be a major force in world football. So on that basis I would assume that the win ration is similar to Thorn's - is it? No it's twice Thorn's. The real funny thing is the notion he would even consider a club like us to manage - not a chance.
Do you think he is a prolific manager then Grendel ?
Depends on your definition. Compared to Thorn yes he's twice the manager Thorn could ever aspire to be. He has managed to get 2 teams promoted from the championship and nearly managed a 3rd promotion with his first go as manager. At Premier level probably not but that is hardly an issue for us now is it?
I agree. Last season the squad was torn apart and not patched up.
This season it has been patched up, but how good are the replacements? It will take them time to gel. We need to be a little patient.
I ve not seen good football from any side or manager since 2000 to be honest. I think we have been slowly conditioned so that even 4 horizontal passes is considered good football
Just out of curiosity is the 4 wins out of 10 throughout his career, excluding his time at Wolves ?
Who do you think believes Thorn is a better manager than mad mick
Or did you just make that bit up ?
I meant playing a passing game and not having a stiff neck all the time kooking at the sky searchibg for the ball each time we got it. How many enjoyed hoofball?
As one person has already stated thorn is our best manager since Jimmy Hill, another the best in the championship and plenty that the best managers in the land could not have got more points than thorn last season I conclude that these people would think that.
I meant playing a passing game and not having a stiff neck all the time kooking at the sky searchibg for the ball each time we got it. How many enjoyed hoofball?
You conclude ?
So nobody has actually said they genuinely think Thorn is a better manager.
They have argued that no other manager could have done better - if not for these defenders of the indefensible we would have got rid and stayed up.
I meant playing a passing game and not having a stiff neck all the time kooking at the sky searchibg for the ball each time we got it. How many enjoyed hoofball?
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