fernandopartridge
Well-Known Member
I think you're correct but I am waiting for those who know a lot better to tell me otherwise.
Now I do like a good quiz....
I'm pretty confident on all of these....
..Here goes...
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How did I do?
He made a reasonable post about where he believes the situation is at the moment. It's based on the respective positions of ACL and CCFC.
Are the following facts true or false?
ACL is now earning £1.2m p/a less than it was with a rent paying tenant False-ish, not over the last year or so anyway. ifact they are in the same position as the last tenants didn't pay
ACL is also earning significantly less in its partnership with Compass due to not staging a minimum of 23 football matches from August to May. Couldn't say one way or the other
There is absolutely nobody other than CCFC would look to rent the Ricoh Arena and bring in the same level of footfall on a consistent basis. Hopefully
As a purpose built football stadium, financed partly through public funding, the City Council will face a lot of scrutiny if that football stadium is not put to use, regardless of whether they are to blame or not. True
I think you're correct but I am waiting for those who know a lot better to tell me otherwise.
But their are more and most likely better/safer alternatives for the club than returning with shitsu at the helm of both club and stadium. yes in this scenario at some point likely to sell one or both but i bet my bottom dollar they saddle the club with record drbt before they do while joy & Co take record paydays from the club and stadium.
He made a reasonable post about where he believes the situation is at the moment. It's based on the respective positions of ACL and CCFC.
Are the following facts true or false?
ACL is now earning £1.2m p/a less than it was with a rent paying tenant
ACL is also earning significantly less in its partnership with Compass due to not staging a minimum of 23 football matches from August to May.
There is absolutely nobody other than CCFC would look to rent the Ricoh Arena and bring in the same level of footfall on a consistent basis.
As a purpose built football stadium, financed partly through public funding, the City Council will face a lot of scrutiny if that football stadium is not put to use, regardless of whether they are to blame or not.
1. Just ignore the (with a rent paying tenant) bit, it's not as if it's fundamental to the statement.
2. Match-day F&B Turnover in 11/12 season was £1,010,992, with Nett Profit of £119,903. The figures aren't available for last season but you'd probably expect a drop to around the £100k mark based on average gates. This is the bit that gets my goat, the fact that shitsu used F&B as the excuse for the rent row and then the net profit is £ 119,903. They were officialy offered a reduded rent of £ 400,000 (even lower according to unofficial reports) a saving of £ 800,000 so the club stood to gain an extra £ 680,907 more than they would have got if they had just been rewarded with the F&B. thats proof in its own that the original complaint was just bullshit.
3. I'd say it is extremely unlikely. Although Nuneaton Borough's meteoric rise to the top of the Conference may continue.:thinking about:believe that when i see it
I agree with you, the club is already saddled with massive debt which will not just disappear. Just be added to if shitsu own ACL or the ground as a whole
What a mess for all parties. No winners from this not least of all me or you or any of the other lunatics on here. to true
jimmyhillsfanclub .....................................First answer false...No rent been paid for well over 1 year.
Not strictly true, is it?
ACL emptied the escrow account for £500k and then got £530k from the administration. In addition they took the amount available on the clubs bank account at a given date - with the blessing of the court.
sorry but thats absolute bollocks first rate wum tho
1. Just ignore the (with a rent paying tenant) bit, it's not as if it's fundamental to the statement.
2. Match-day F&B Turnover in 11/12 season was £1,010,992, with Nett Profit of £119,903. The figures aren't available for last season but you'd probably expect a drop to around the £100k mark based on average gates.
3. I'd say it is extremely unlikely. Although Nuneaton Borough's meteoric rise to the top of the Conference may continue.:thinking about:
I agree with you, the club is already saddled with massive debt which will not just disappear.
What a mess for all parties. No winners from this not least of all me or you or any of the other lunatics on here.
The point is he argues his case well and you well - don't. Actually you don't a case at all. Rather like Thailand whatever he's called there's a band wagon and you just roll with it.
and just how would you know any of that it would require a modicum of intelligence you have none still following SISU
What makes him a WUM? I don't get it? Because you don't agree with him?
I think the OP makes a lot of good points. I really can't understand some of the opposing negative viewpoints. It's as though you want to find any reason, anything at all in order to disagree and continually present the football club as the major wrong doer here? Our football club is owned by Otium so get over it! I want to move forward not continually backwards. We need to find a solution that does that in the here and now. It's what it is people, deal with it. The faults and blame are on both sides, no doubt about it as the facts prove it so lets concentrate on that and hope there will be a deal for our football club. Owners will come and go but if the stance is "liquidate the club, get rid of SISU at all cost" approach of some on these boards, then the club will go and sadly never return. It will be gone.
no because its written like a wind up just out to upset people if he really feels that way he has my deepest sympathy
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In my mind you can't really mix business and politics like the way ACL is set up - even add a charity to the mix and at some point it's bound to explode ... or implode.
Any organization or business need to have one overruling purpose. In business it's usually profitability - in politics it's usually getting votes. One is not better than the other - it's fine for the council to own the bricks and mortar of the community asset - and as long as it serves the community the politicians are not losing votes.
Isn't that the problem with a football club being owned by a business though, that the needs of club and business don't intersect? Admittedly this isn't a problem unique to CCFC...
no because its written like a wind up just out to upset people if he really feels that way he has my deepest sympathy
It is interesting I am accused if not debating, being abisuve and derailing threads - this thread was a reasonable well thought out opening statement.
The response from hunt and the usual CCC zealots most definitely was not.
100% agreed. OMG WUM if you don't agree. It's pathetic.
'Written like it's a WUM' on another planet suggesting that. As it's clearly not.
You do tend to go off on wild tangents though to be fair.
It was written as perfectly as Fisher would have wanted it ! Flawed throughout though !
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