The World Cup Thread (20 Viewers)

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Mar 29, 2018

chiefdave said:
Not sure why you'd think anything dodgy might happen in Russia. This is a piece about the KHL, their top level ice hockey league. Written by Russian sports writer Slava Maiamud:

That was really interesting, and worrying.

The last line was bizarre though, looks as if she had some other agenda with that.

wingy · May 10, 2018

Who's still going?
See some fans have been having their accomodation withdrawn or inflated to humungous levels.

M&B Stand · May 10, 2018

Just for the Belgium game. I’d consider going back out there for the later stages if we were still there.

skyblue025 · May 10, 2018

I'm still going. All booked up this week. Accommodation prices have come down a fair bit in the last month.on e places weren't full at the stupid prices they have dropped them down now.

Otis · May 11, 2018

You'll be fine now in Volgograd, they've poisoned all the stray cats and dogs.

CJ_covblaze · May 11, 2018

We’re still going. Trying to sort out our potential digs in Rostov at present.

wingy · May 11, 2018

Otis said:
You'll be fine now in Volgograd, they've poisoned all the stray cats and dogs.

What about guinea pigs ?

skyblue025 · May 11, 2018

I'm only doing 2nd and 3rd game on and the final (In the unlikely event we get there.

Otis · May 11, 2018

wingy said:
What about guinea pigs ?

They tend not to roam the streets.

Last time I went, I went out and bought dog and cat biscuits and was feeding them all. None of my missus's family were pleased at all about it and I was getting comments from people along the lines of 'Here we feed people, not animals.'

Thing is, people get dogs and cats as pets over there and then realise they can no longer afford to feed them, so they just kick them out on the streets and then they breed.

Anyway, the authorities there just put a load of poison down and killed the lot, including some people's pets by mistake, who just happened to be out on the street at the time.

Will make it nice for all the World Cup tourists though.

M&B Stand · May 14, 2018

23 man squad announced Wednesday. Bit surprised by that. Thought he might announce a bigger squad then trim it down after the FA and The European Cup final when they play the 2 friendlies.

If Hart gets in it’ll be laughable.

Gazolba · May 14, 2018

I'll stick my neck out and say this is the worst England squad that has ever gone to a major tournament.

skyblue025 · May 15, 2018

Squad might not be great but we still have some decent players and they just might pick a team with players in their best positions rather than picking the best 11 players and shoe horning them into a team. No point in playing centre mids or strikers as wingers. At international level you get found out.

CJ_covblaze · May 15, 2018

M&B Stand said:
23 man squad announced Wednesday. Bit surprised by that. Thought he might announce a bigger squad then trim it down after the FA and The European Cup final when they play the 2 friendlies.

If Hart gets in it’ll be laughable.

If he does it’ll be due to his experience. Pickford will be number 1 but I’d have Pope ahead of Butland. Southgate said a few weeks ago that he likes to pick 23 and have a reserved list rather than a bigger squad and make it smaller later.

Covstu · May 15, 2018

Shelvey needs to be there, there is no one in the current squad that can unlock defenses

wingy · May 15, 2018

Is Lallana involved these days?

Otis · May 15, 2018

CJ_covblaze said:
If he does it’ll be due to his experience. Pickford will be number 1 but I’d have Pope ahead of Butland. Southgate said a few weeks ago that he likes to pick 23 and have a reserved list rather than a bigger squad and make it smaller later.

I wonder, do all teams take 3 keepers? And has any team ever in the history of the World Cup needed to use all 3?

Just seems excessive. I'm sure 2 would be fine. What's the chances of 2 keepers getting injured, or 1 getting injured and the other sent off?

ccfchoi87 · May 15, 2018

Otis said:
I wonder, do all teams take 3 keepers? And has any team ever in the history of the World Cup needed to use all 3?

Just seems excessive. I'm sure 2 would be fine. What's the chances of 2 keepers getting injured, or 1 getting injured and the other sent off?

You have to take 3. Think it was Korea who tried it before.

Otis · May 15, 2018

ccfchoi87 said:
You have to take 3. Think it was Korea who tried it before.

Ah, so it's a rule, rather than a choice situation?

M&B Stand · May 15, 2018

CJ_covblaze said:
If he does it’ll be due to his experience. Pickford will be number 1 but I’d have Pope ahead of Butland. Southgate said a few weeks ago that he likes to pick 23 and have a reserved list rather than a bigger squad and make it smaller later.

It should be Pickford, Pope and Butland.

Hart reminds me of Scott shearer.

Otis · May 15, 2018

I see some are talking of Danny Rose missing out. I know he hasn't had much game time, but he has to be on the plane hasn't he?

Has to be better than Ashley Young and I would say he's better than Bertrand too.

Apparently he played very well for Spurs on Sunday against Leicester.

Ashley Young is now Ashley Old and not half as quick as he used to be.

ccfchoi87 · May 15, 2018

Otis said:
Ah, so it's a rule, rather than a choice situation?

Yeah, I don't understand how it can be policed really. Didn't David James come on up front in a club game once, would that not be allowed at the World Cup?

ajsccfc · May 15, 2018

A small handful of teams have used all three goalkeepers, but generally when they're already out and just want to let everyone have a game.

M&B Stand · May 15, 2018

Otis said:
I see some are talking of Danny Rose missing out. I know he hasn't had much game time, but he has to be on the plane hasn't he?

Has to be better than Ashley Young and I would say he's better than Bertrand too.

Apparently he played very well for Spurs on Sunday against Leicester.

Ashley Young is now Ashley Old and not half as quick as he used to be.

I’d take Young, he’s been quality this season and can play a few positions, always useful in a tournament squad.
I’ll get slated for this but I’d talk Milner out of retirement. Been class for Liverpool this season and can play anywhere.

SlowerThanPlatt · May 15, 2018

England’s squad is out tomorrow. Quite a few have already announced theirs. Brazil look frightening, front 3 of Coutinho, Jesus and Neymar with Fernandinho and Casemiro in midfield :inpain:. Then you have the likes of Firmino, Willian and Douglas Costa to call upon

SlowerThanPlatt · May 15, 2018

Joe Hart not involved in squad. Good. Don’t understand why some people insisted he had to be there for experience when England haven’t achieved anything at major tournaments for years and leave Pope who’s had a great season at home

Shelvey not even under consideration according to John Cross of the Mirror because of fears of his discipline and temperament. I rate him as a player, definitely a better option than the limited Livermore but have to think this was probably his last chance of going to a World Cup. He’ll be 30by the time 2022 comes around and been out of favour for some time

Covstu · May 15, 2018

Hart on form shouldn't be there so that's at least something, just worried that our midfield is lacking creativity and the ability for defence splitting passes

CJ_covblaze · May 15, 2018

ccfchoi87 said:
You have to take 3. Think it was Korea who tried it before.

It was. They only picked 2 but then were told they had to have 3. As they didn’t have anyone else available an outfielder then had to spend the next couple of weeks in goal in training to show FIFA he was a keeper.

Otis · May 15, 2018

He's left Wilshire out?

What???

Madness I feel and well worth the gamble in taking him. He can be the midfield general we may well need for this tournament.

Maybe he's not quite as talented as Jake Livermore eh!

covmark · May 15, 2018

Otis said:
He's left Wilshire out?

What???

Madness I feel and well worth the gamble in taking him. He can be the midfield general we may well need for this tournament.

Maybe he's not quite as talented as Jake Livermore eh!

If Livermore goes instead of Wilshere then Southgate needs replacing immediately.

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Otis · May 15, 2018

covmark said:
If Livermore goes instead of Wilshere then Southgate needs replacing immediately.

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He might not be in, I'm just guessing, but I do think Southgate will play it safe.

CJ_covblaze · May 15, 2018

covmark said:
If Livermore goes instead of Wilshere then Southgate needs replacing immediately.

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Same goes for Loftus-Cheek. Livermore can’t be in that squad ahead of either of them and even Shelvey based on ability and form.

Otis · May 15, 2018

CJ_covblaze said:
Same goes for Loftus-Cheek. Livermore can’t be in that squad ahead of either of them and even Shelvey based on ability and form.

Yeah, there's talk that Loftus-Cheek won't make it and he surely should be in.

ccfchoi87 · May 15, 2018

To be fair, Livermore was superb against Newcastle recently. I would guess that secured his place.

Otis · May 15, 2018

ccfchoi87 said:
To be fair, Livermore was superb against Newcastle recently. I would guess that secured his place.

Big difference between the domestic stage and the international one though.

Livermore is found out at international level.

ccfchoi87 · May 15, 2018

Otis said:
Big difference between the domestic stage and the international one though.

Livermore is found out at international level.

He was playing against the player that most people want in ahead of him. I like shelvey but Livermore bossed that game and that's why he'll be picked.

Shame because shelvey offers something different to the rest of the squad. I'm a firm believer in picking different options not just the best players

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