Seen it now and the guy runs passed Ogogo and SterlingGrimmer was in the L2 team of the year as voted by fellow pros.scored at Wembley (and a screamer against Stoke). Sterling may prove to be better but he's not ours and I agree Grimmer should have started yesterda. Imo he earned the right from last season to continue at least until he made a mistake. I'm not hanging a young kid like Sterling out to dry after one game but thought he was badly positioned in terms of shape for the first goal yesterday. He'll improve and I know he's highly rated by Chelsea but I do think the op has a point, perhaps not as he stated bit the general principle I agree with.
How'd you know there was raised eyebrows amongst the other players? Did they tell you?
Shipley barely good enough? Did you go to any games last season? 19 year old home grown kid comes into the side with no experience scored half a dozen goals and as many assists including a couple of screamers in about 30 games. He was plenty good enough last season and will improve again. Honestly our fan bade annoys me at times, not because they don't share my opinion but because they consistenyly look for the negative in our own kids. Bayliss will be the better of the two I'm sure but with some patience Shippers could be here for a long time and be a proper Sky Blue hero imo.Devon Kelly-Evans has signed for Nuneaton in the 6th tier and Dion Kelly-Evans has signed for Kettering in the 7th tier and you think we should have kept them here . Shipley was barely good enough in League 2 so shouldn’t be in our team in League 1. It’s not a lack of loyalty it’s getting rid of deadwood and picking the better players. Too much sentimentality in football nowadays
Devon Kelly-Evans has signed for Nuneaton in the 6th tier and Dion Kelly-Evans has signed for Kettering in the 7th tier and you think we should have kept them here . Shipley was barely good enough in League 2 so shouldn’t be in our team in League 1. It’s not a lack of loyalty it’s getting rid of deadwood and picking the better players. Too much sentimentality in football nowadays
More wishful thinking from the disloyal wing of the parliamentary Labour Party!I agree. I think Robins has done a bit too much with the squad, i hope it doesn't cost him. A lot can be said for momentum, which he seems to have totally destroyed.
He wasnt pivotal. He would have been nowhere the team with everyone fit. He wasnt and isnt good enoughShipley was barely good enough? He was pivotal in helping achieve promotion you clown
yeah he was shitHappy we let him go Pete?
Just why? Clearly football people know less than you Grendel. Let’s see heySaying there is no loyalty we have offered the security of a 3 year contract so a couple of players who I doubt will exactly be in demand elsewhere
ok sparky cool storyIt was the callous way they were released that raised eyebrows among the other players
. Outed yourself as a closet Man U fan there Oucho !!!We all like to think of teams as "a club" where the manager is like a scout master overseeing a bunch of friendly cubs. Reality is that CCFC, in common with every other team, is a hard-headed business where, unless you are likely to deliver the goods for the next game, you are surplus and always going to be binned off despite whatever contribution you have made previously. That's sentimentally sad but is 100% how it should be in a results-focused business.
Fergie was the ultimate hard-head in this regard; dropping the likes of Jim Leighton for the 1990 cup final replay, Bryan Robson (club legend) for the 1994 FA Cup final and Steve Bruce (another club legend) for the 1996 FA Cup final was purely for tactical reasons - United won all three games with Les Sealey, Roy Keane and David May, respectively, having good games in the places of those dropped.
The only thing that's important is the advancement of the team on the pitch and each player is expendable and replaceable once there is someone else in their position who can offer more than them.
It was the callous way they were released that raised eyebrows among the other players
This is what irritates me, Shipley had a good season and for me I think he will get better but all of a sudden he isn’t good enough by some fans? Not buying that one!Shipley barely good enough? Did you go to any games last season? 19 year old home grown kid comes into the side with no experience scored half a dozen goals and as many assists including a couple of screamers in about 30 games. He was plenty good enough last season and will improve again. Honestly our fan bade annoys me at times, not because they don't share my opinion but because they consistenyly look for the negative in our own kids. Bayliss will be the better of the two I'm sure but with some patience Shippers could be here for a long time and be a proper Sky Blue hero imo.
Just why? Clearly football people know less than you Grendel. Let’s see hey
Nobody will convince me differently. He doesnt tackle, has poor delivery from most set pieces and doesnt appear to have a position. He has some ability but nowhere near enough to start in our team for me. Being young and local isnt a reason.This is what irritates me, Shipley had a good season and for me I think he will get better but all of a sudden he isn’t good enough by some fans? Not buying that one!
Nope but Kelly and Biamou showed enough to have investment in them. Kelly as I think he’ll be a big player and max for the potential he showed by improving so much last year. Bet he was on less than £50k last season. Anyway I’m sure you hope you’re wrong too. Fully expect a striker to come inNext you’ll be telling me it was a great idea when we gave David Bell a 4 year deal.
Nah that's all football general knowledge.. Outed yourself as a closet Man U fan there Oucho !!!
You must be watching a different game, the amount of balls he wins and makes things happen all last season. He will grow to become a better player this season againNobody will convince me differently. He doesnt tackle, has poor delivery from most set pieces and doesnt appear to have a position. He has some ability but nowhere near enough to start in our team for me. Being young and local isnt a reason.
It was the callous way they were released that raised eyebrows among the other players
I think people have misunderstood what I was getting at in the original post (probably my fault)!
I wouldn't have kept the DKE twins. What I am saying is you can't call Maddison and Thomas, who played in the same age groups, Judas' for leaving when the club would've binned them off had they not performed. It's the way football is.
I'm also not saying we shouldn't have signed anyone. What I meant was that Grimmer was perfectly adequate at right back and his last contribution was scoring a wonder goal at Wembley. For me he deserved a chance to keep his spot until it was lost. Shipley was the exact same. Two kids came in and took their spots on the basis of what? They were shown no loyalty by their manager for their performances last year.
Which comes back to my point that there is no loyalty in football and it cannot be demanded or expected anymore.
Based on loyalty maybe wee should keep Doyler in the team until he’s 65.Mcnulty left us this summer for bigger and better things as many players have done before. They receive abuse for being money grabbers etc. Today grimmer and Shipley were shown no loyalty by their manager as they were unfairly dropped for newcomers. The Kelly Evans twins were shown no loyalty for their services when they were binned this summer. Can anyone blame the mercenaries such as Leon Clarke who follow the money? Why should players show loyalty if they are shown no loyalty by their clubs? There's no loyalty in football and it shouldn't be expected of the players.
Nobody will convince me differently. He doesnt tackle, has poor delivery from most set pieces and doesnt appear to have a position. He has some ability but nowhere near enough to start in our team for me. Being young and local isnt a reason.
Based on loyalty maybe wee should keep Doyler in the team until he’s 65.
Or Jimmy Greaves should have played in the ‘66 world cup final instrad of Geoff Hurst
Nope you give him a chance to perform until he is no longer able.
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?