Sky Blue Pete
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Becomes harder and harder doesn’t it to break through the higher the level we play at
Villa have given minutes in the Premier League to 4 academy graduates this season. That's more than we have in the Championship.Bad move for the kid given the way we bring players through our system.
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Can clubs not agree fees independently?Even through a tribunal they do stipulate staggered payments based on appearances and call ups etc. Hopefully there are some in our favour if he succeeds.
edit: I’m thinking of over 16 I think, EPPP looks complicated. Hope we don’t lose out
Like STP said I think bigger clubs look to snatch them before they enter full-time academy because it's a lot cheaper and difficult for clubs to retain them contractually because of their age. When the system came in it looked like it had basically been decided upon by the top clubs, who could pick up good talent for peanuts. Of course it was sold as being excellent for the lower leagues because they got reimbursed for the players
Yeah my brief reading suggested it was all about the premier league (clues in the name I guess). Totally agree, there should be a decent sell-on automatically else it reduces the incentive for lower league clubs to run academies if their best players always get poached for an amount that can end up being tiny compared to the future market value. Obviously not all players end up being worth much, but that’s the risk you take with academies. Anyway, fuck villa!Like STP said I think bigger clubs look to snatch them before they enter full-time academy because it's a lot cheaper and difficult for clubs to retain them contractually because of their age. When the system came in it looked like it had basically been decided upon by the top clubs, who could pick up good talent for peanuts. Of course it was sold as being excellent for the lower leagues because they got reimbursed for the players
I don't mind a set fee being provided (it should have a scale based on what leagues the selling and buying clubs are in) but I think the fee should also automatically include a min 25% sell-on fee for any fee the club taking them receive in future, along with a set fee for if they play a first team game for the club (sliding scale depending on the level it is at) or if they play internationally (even if the player has moved on from the buying club).
Now remind me when was the last time a youth player gained a regular first team place. The answer is Bayliss, four seasons ago.Bad move for the kid given the way we bring players through our system.
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Now remind me when was the last time a youth player gained a regular first team place. The answer is Bayliss, four seasons ago.
So no we don't bring players through. We develop potential then flog them before people realise they are not quite good enough - see Thomas, Stevenson, Bayliss, Bremang. Or we parcel them off to lower league clubs - see Ponticelli. This guy is in the former camp.
Did we pay 6 figures for Morgan Williams? Released to Yeovil. Some work, some don't
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