Mary_Mungo_Midge
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You'll get crap gates for London Welsh and the like. But huge gates for Leicester, or Northampton. Immense for any of the Irish teams. Ditto Toulon, et. I'm guessing they've taken a view on the average
Hopefully no ccfc fan who boycotted Sixfields will go.....that would be a tad hypocritical
I'd be very surprised if they get any more than 3.5-4k for the average game.
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You'll get crap gates for London Welsh and the like. But huge gates for Leicester, or Northampton. Immense for any of the Irish teams. Ditto Toulon, et. I'm guessing they've taken a view on the average
for at least 5 years since 2007 SISU sat unchallenged in pole position to do a deal on ownership........... they ......no one else ......... chose a path of confrontation, legal absurdity, rejected any notion of partnership and put the needs of SISU way before the needs of CCFC & fans
Thanks OSB 58, The best post i have read for months,totally agree. We must tow the line and pay the rent. Tim should be honest about the new stadium,that wont happen.
Yes it could all have been CCFC's, indeed that was the intention from 2003 onwards, unfortunately successive boards and owners at CCFC had no real notion of partnership and building let alone a sense of community or empathy with fans. Yes other parties played their part, sometimes ego's personalities and pig headed stubbornness played their part.
But the biggest reason CCFC do not and look likely not to own even part of the Ricoh is the owners and directors CCFC has had the gross misfortune to endure
You'll get crap gates for London Welsh and the like. But huge gates for Leicester, or Northampton. Immense for any of the Irish teams. Ditto Toulon, et. I'm guessing they've taken a view on the average
You'll get crap gates for London Welsh and the like. But huge gates for Leicester, or Northampton. Immense for any of the Irish teams. Ditto Toulon, et. I'm guessing they've taken a view on the average
Hopefully no ccfc fan who boycotted Sixfields will go.....that would be a tad hypocritical
I'd be very surprised if they get any more than 3.5-4k for the average game.
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The sisu-out-campaign?
The NOPM campaign?
All the ACL lovers?
All the CCC lovers?
No?
Hoffman?
Elliott?
No?
I give up then.
Answer this-which community benefits more in the long term if the Ricoh Is sold to CCFC and not to WASPS?
You see, I don't go along with this hypocritical stuff. I boycotted Sixfields because SISU moved my football team away from Coventry. Franchising didn't come into it for me. The club was moved as a "weapon" for SISU to get what they wanted, and I wasn't going to support that..
And I might very well go to see Wasps playing, the way I have watched Arsenal v Liverpool in the cup at Highfield Road, and many games where I have watched 2 teams play as a neutral. It should be exciting, but I will be a neutral. It definately wont stop me going to the odd game at the Butts, as usual.
I dont agree with moving wasps here, but if it's done, it's done.
Hopefully no ccfc fan who boycotted Sixfields will go.....that would be a tad hypocritical
I'd be very surprised if they get any more than 3.5-4k for the average game.
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Maybe this whole thing will calm down in time. Tempers are frayed and emotions raw at the moment and there's a lot of generalised, sweeping statements going round at the moment.
I for one will not watch Wasps but will still go to the Butts to watch the real Coventry Rugby club,why because this is totally wrong,
I have to say, as it stands this is me done, and I'll be offski again. Even CCFC buying half the arena wouldn't be enough for me, I don't want to be part of a co-owned finance driven sporting conglomerate. It's been shit really for ages. First we get bought by a slightly dubious financial organisation, then we sign a distinctly dubious centre forward for money rather than ethical reasons... then soime of the fucking fans of the same team spend their time being moronic and categorising people into SISU loving pigeon-holes... and now it seems the social element of society is just as ruthless and money-grabbing as the rest.
Well... not for me. Sure it is for some and that's fine... but not for me.
Unlike the likes of Italia however, if I decide to bog off I'll just go, rather than repeating it over and over again, so take this as a one-off
You make a fair point actually. Maybe I can find salvation in being a bit more proactive there. Might even be able to persuade my Dad to go, and he hasn't been to a game since the 1970s!
Worst of all for me is the scenario for Cov Rugby. The best thing they could do is be defiant in their independence and fight to keep CRFC a competitor and completely unique local team. It seems to me they are making a grave mistake in embracing this abomination and talking about collaboration which will likely turn them into Wasps reserves. Given the choice of Wasps and Wasps reserves who are the rugby folk going to pay to watch ?
I'm confident if the Blue and Whites shunned this franchise then their fans will stick loyal, if they don't it's the beginning of the end and a sneaky merger will prevail in time to bring in the name 'Coventry' to add to Wasps.
Worst of all for me is the scenario for Cov Rugby. The best thing they could do is be defiant in their independence and fight to keep CRFC a competitor and completely unique local team. It seems to me they are making a grave mistake in embracing this abomination and talking about collaboration which will likely turn them into Wasps reserves. Given the choice of Wasps and Wasps reserves who are the rugby folk going to pay to watch ?
I'm confident if the Blue and Whites shunned this franchise then their fans will stick loyal, if they don't it's the beginning of the end and a sneaky merger will prevail in time to bring in the name 'Coventry' to add to Wasps.
“The revenue from these facilities, combined with Wasps existing revenues, will result in Wasps immediately becoming the highest turnover rugby club in the Aviva Premiership.”
THIS IS WHY-CCFC had to own their own stadium.
No playing Second bastard fiddle to egg chasers in our own backyard!
Too late for all of the anti-SISU brigade to realise what actual was going on all the time!
You make a fair point actually. Maybe I can find salvation in being a bit more proactive there. Might even be able to persuade my Dad to go, and he hasn't been to a game since the 1970s!
I didn't want Wasps here, but I have now already moved on. As you say, what's done is done and now we have to deal with it.
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If Sisu left though, I think we'd get quite a lot back too.
For me it is all about the team and I was so proud last night to see 9 academy players shining out there on the pitch.
I hope at least we will now be on a better rent deal at the Ricoh and our future is a little rosier.
It's a good afternoon out people are friendly nice clubhouse,ok its not topflight rugby they're in the third division but then again so are city.
To me that'd be a pyrrhic victory though. Why sell your soul? It didn't work when we moved from Robinson to SISU after all...
And I'd never have a go at that because why should I? What will be will be, people will either watch or not. To me, the team needs the foundations though, else it ain't possible to watch the players and be proud further down the line. But... we've been there done that over the years
Back to that pyrrhic victory though. It's all so stupid to run leisure as a business, but everyone tries it as nobody wants to pay for it. Really... no matter if SISU are an evil hedge fund, we should have been bending over backwards to offer the long least, peppercorn rent yadda yadda yadda. In return, regardless of the rent, we shouldn't have had owners that wanted to break a monopoly on sports stadium supply or make a profit out of which team we were stupid enough to have foist upon us because of where we were born yadda yadda yadda... and nor should we have tried to break the monopoly on sports team supply either:facepalm: You'd think it's common sense that there's a sense of well-being and togetherness that's worth more than cash... but everyone loses sight of that. Although maybe Tussauds/Merlin would have been a decent advisor on how to make it work, eh.
In the end there's no 'victory' in beating SISU - it ends up a speculation that didn't work out, if it fails. There's certainly no victory in out-SISU'ing SISU.
And (amazingly!) we're now left with a situation worse than I ever predicted when they came in. I thought it'd be as simple as they just wound us up about now!
Instead the carnage is strewn around... and still it goes on.
Sorry but I find that totally hypocritical. After 1 day (less than) you've "moved on". But after a year at Sixfields you hadn't moved on at all and were still demanding the reversal of the (temporary) franchise to Northampton.
if SISU now move CCFS somewhere near to Birmingham will you have moved on by the end of that afternoon? I suspect not.
Had the deal not yet been done I could have campaigned against the sale.
Of course, it's the political maneuvering that stopped any campaigning...
2 things we can now do. Boycott Wasps and vote out our councillors at the next election. That's it.
tbh never really given a fuck about league status. Whenever I've lived away have tended to watch the local lower league sides on spare days and, tbh, far far more fun than CCFC!
Even so - should ccc/higgs not have gone to the club and asked if they would buy ACL for conditions similar to what Wasps got?
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