if that happens you'd get no apology from me.We should'nt be in this league playing in the dreadful JPT in the first place.
The Rev
If all of our debts are to SISU (apparently they are), and they cut their losses and piss off - surely we're debt free again...?! :thinking about:
Is that right? Probably not. Someone who knows these things put me right if not - coz i'm pretty sure they're close to pissing off.
Rich,is that another rumour ?because if it is, its on the wrong thread, and very shortly Torchy will be asking you for links.
The Rev
I would be interested to know why we shouldn't be. Leeds, Man City, Leicester, Norwich and both Sheffield clubs have. In fact every club that has been relegated from the Premier League and did not get back under parachute land have. Have SISU owned all these clubs? Would we not have been there anyway had Mr Coventry and his hapless operation premiership bunch still been around (actually no we would be broke) This has more to do with financial reality than ownership.
How can we owe 54 million? Weren't we 30 million in debt when they took over? Why has it nearly doubled?
And people still back them lol. Bsb,im normally a chilled person,what you read on here isn't the way i am in everyday life,i come on here and just lose it.
Let us hope it is not true or we have no club and you will be having to watch Norwich (ex League One) if you want to see a game.
I would be interested to know why we shouldn't be. Leeds, Man City, Leicester, Norwich and both Sheffield clubs have. In fact every club that has been relegated from the Premier League and did not get back under parachute land have. Have SISU owned all these clubs? Would we not have been there anyway had Mr Coventry and his hapless operation premiership bunch still been around (actually no we would be broke) This has more to do with financial reality than ownership.
Worst thing that could of happened was richardson leaving.
without knowing me, how can you comment what i might do if we go tits up.I really don't like people telling me what I might do, when you don't know me from Adam.
For the record i would not support any other club ever, if we go belly up, I would rather go shopping with the Mrs, and thats a huge ask.If i could'nt do that i'd watch Rugby
The Rev
Ha ha, now i know you're a joker. Whilst you're busy spitting your bile at your fellow fans you conveniently forget that he was the twat who got us in the mess we We are in now. And you accuse others of worshipping corrupt regimes. :jerkit:
<br />Can i ask all the negative SISU haters what the reaction will be if we happen to get promoted and get to wembley this season? I imagine itll be one of bandwagon jumping and delirium and not a single SISU out protest in sight. I would expect a lot of humble pie to be eaten and apologies but of course you would all still try and find reasons to be negative.
Why will the club fold without sisu?
I do understand,I don't particularly like him either. The hatred you have for him is the same i and younger posters than me have for sisu. Do you not understand that?
If you were like a lot of us that have been going to games for 30 years or more you would understand our hatred for the man.
I was born the year after we went up. All I ever knew was top flight football. Maybe we were always near the bottom of the table, but we were top flight. Up there longer even than Manure. Up there longer than teams that had played in Europe whilst we were there. We should have been in Europe ourselves in 87.
We went from all of that and owning our own cosy ground to being about bankrupt without assets. This was whilst selling all our best players all the time. How do you think it happened? Where do you think the money went?
SISU were left to pick up the pieces. They threw money at us at first. They got it wrong. Their idea was to get us promoted and sell quickly. Now we are stuck together. That is until we are sellable again. I don't like being run by them, but it is them we have. A marriage of inconvenience.
If you were like a lot of us that have been going to games for 30 years or more you would understand our hatred for the man.
I was born the year after we went up. All I ever knew was top flight football. Maybe we were always near the bottom of the table, but we were top flight. Up there longer even than Manure. Up there longer than teams that had played in Europe whilst we were there. We should have been in Europe ourselves in 87.
We went from all of that and owning our own cosy ground to being about bankrupt without assets. This was whilst selling all our best players all the time. How do you think it happened? Where do you think the money went?
SISU were left to pick up the pieces. They threw money at us at first. They got it wrong. Their idea was to get us promoted and sell quickly. Now we are stuck together. That is until we are sellable again. I don't like being run by them, but it is them we have. A marriage of inconvenience.
KD the debt figure is grossly inflated ,OSB put a breakdown on a thread in the last couple of weeks ,He has it figured we owe Sisu somewhere around £21-23m. Just took a couple of hours out of here to eat ,lwatched Elbow live @ T in the park ,i recommend it.
Must be a bit more as we owed them £23.4m by 31/05/09.
Must be a bit more as we owed them £23.4m by 31/05/09.
Here it is Godiva From thread 17885 page1 if you wan't to read the whole thing.
jan 2008 to may 2008 £3m
2009 £7.6m
2010 £3.1m
2011 £7.1m
Total £20.8m which should be the total losses of CCFC that SISU have funded via SBS&L then via CCFC H up until 31/05/11. Why then is the debt £54m ? Well thats because they have left the inter group balance at its full value which includes funding CCFC received via CCFC H prior to when SISU came in.
I would be interested to know why we shouldn't be. Leeds, Man City, Leicester, Norwich and both Sheffield clubs have. In fact every club that has been relegated from the Premier League and did not get back under parachute land have. Have SISU owned all these clubs? Would we not have been there anyway had Mr Coventry and his hapless operation premiership bunch still been around (actually no we would be broke) This has more to do with financial reality than ownership.
Whatever it is it isn't nothing as Rich87 alleges.
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Wembley ? Promotion ? Your deluded ! There's no way without drastically strengthening the squad we will be in with a sniff ! It's a difficult league and we need to be punching way above our weight to get remotely reasonable. I predict bottom half to lower table at the moment. We could not survive the onslaught of teams sometimes sitting back in the championship. What hope with teams that really want to wop our arses.
I'm not a fan of business managers/ accountants in football - strange breed and even less a fan of football fans who think they are business managers/ accountants ! They are like governments who rip the heart out of the country whilst trying to justify it and expect moral and spirit from those who are affected.
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