torchomatic
Well-Known Member
I do the same as you as do many others, we buy tickets. Nobody follows SISU. However, you do something that a lot of others don't, you follow Wasps.
I do what I can for my club but I refuse to follow Sisu in their futile fight for return on their losses..
I do the same as you as do many others, we buy tickets. Nobody follows SISU. However, you do something that a lot of others don't, you follow Wasps.
I follow Coventry City football team (not Sisu Hedge fund).
I follow Wasps Rugby team (not Wasps Holding Company)
This is exactly why this thing is never going to work.
One says the threat is Wasps, another says Sisu, another says Wasps, Sisu and CCC.
We can't even sing from the same hymn sheet and that is why this is protest thing is never going to work unfortunately.
Blackpool is easy, fans against owner. This here is Sisu, Higgs, Wasps, CCC, with so many fans with opposing views and little consensus of opinion.
Dead right. Which is why the campaign can only achieve unity if it focuses 100% on the thing we do all agree about - that CCFC should continue to have a Cat 2 academy in Coventry. Insist that all parties work to achieve it. We shouldn't care too much how it happens, as long as it happens. And if we can get a result out of this one narrow issue, maybe then we can start to think about making progress on a wider front. Perhaps some of the parties might even find working together a refreshing change?
Disagree, they will talk deal if it was empty surely? At present it doesn't matter who owns ccfc as there are limited options. The best we can hope for is an extended deal at th Ricoh.
I wouldnt be surprised it the swimming pool and the wasps development are all inter linked, as they've already agreed to let CSF have small amount of community use of the kicking barn as the swimming pool is going. That will no doubt be mentioned when they put in planning app for the swimming pool. And actually CSF have served notice on us because they have replaced us by wasps so it is all linked
Italia just doesn't seem to grasp this most critical simplistic fact.How many more times. Wasps will NEVER give the club more access to revenues. They need it themselves! Regardless of whether SISU were here or not.
Just some slightly off-topic questions for clarification (I have no idea how an academy is set-up):
Are there restrictions about where an academy can be based? that is, does it have to be in the general Coventry area? Or, could one based just "nearby"?
Can the Academy be shared at another clubs facilities for short-term? Or is it required to have it's own facilities?
I'll probably have more follow-up questions soon, but maintaining an Academy should still be in SISU's own best self-interest regardless
Are there restrictions about where an academy can be based? that is, does it have to be in the general Coventry area? Or, could one based just "nearby"?
Can the Academy be shared at another clubs facilities for short-term? Or is it required to have it's own facilities?
Because they clearly had an alternative under their sleeveLike before when the stadium owners wouldn't sell it to SISU ?
We're sponsored by them, Stat Sports.What is the IT technology that the League determines to be okay for performance analysis?
Doubt it. There's no standard system is there, each club uses whatever they want. There's things like Opta but that wouldn't be much use in a professional capacity.Do teams share data of games?
Italia just doesn't seem to grasp this most critical simplistic fact.
Never mind let's get SISU out at all costs, no new owner would get more revenue like Torch says because Wasps simply can not afford to as they have a 40 million bond to repay soon.
FFS when will it sink in with some people
If CCFC pay Wasps for access to some of the revenues, that’s still revenue for Wasps isn’t it? I’m not clever enough to know whether or how that could work in practice.
But I agree, Wasps are unlikely to give revenues to CCFC.
Yeah makes little sense in a way. The wasps share of the f&bs are worth £75k, for example will wasps want to sell that £75k for less than £75k? Say wasps get £200k pa extra stadium sponsorship becusse we're there, are they going to let us have it or buy thay £200k for less? Dont think so. We were once quoted £24m for access matchday f&b's based...If CCFC pay Wasps for access to some of the revenues, that’s still revenue for Wasps isn’t it? I’m not clever enough to know whether or how that could work in practice.
But I agree, Wasps are unlikely to give revenues to CCFC.
One day you will have to get over your blind hatred of CCC. You also have to look past the comments made by Fisher.They will give the club nothing. Long term tenancy at the Ricoh under wasps has to be avoided.
I do what I can for my club but I refuse to follow Sisu in their futile fight for return on their losses..
Like giving your money to a sporting franchise that sees CCFC as a major inconvenience and competition?
Back to the question of this thread. Why do the trust need to make a statement ?
Yes I pay my money and it's been an enjoyable investment.
With Sisu in charge I guess CCFC is an inconvenience. Sisu expect everything, invest nothing and aimlessly fight everybody.
Competition ? IMHO this area is big enough for CCFC, Wasps and CRFC. The 'we can't have it so no one can have it' attitude isn't going to work.
CCFC/Sisu need 'realistically' to plan our future. The mixed messages over the past 4 years and inability to talk means things will just move on without us.
Even now I don't know what we want. As I see it ........
It's all Sisu playing a game with our club and they need to go. Nobody should give them any air.
- Up until a few weeks ago we were not committing to the Academy past 2017. Wasps put in application for extending the Higgs and all of a sudden it appears we want to also bring the first team there.
- We keep talking about a new stadium and more recently we are now looking at the BPA. I'm expecting Wasps to plan without us when any major changes take place. I would guess when the seats need changing Sisu will a few days later say 'we wanted to move in full time'.
It's probably pointless reminding you again, but you do realise that they haven't actually 'invested' any of their own money in this project?
They have put in loads of other people money which they've borrowed on the pretence that they will keep on re-borrowing to repay the last lot of money they borrowed.
To show a united front that the football club and it's supporters condemn wasps for their action regarding the Higgs Centre and its decision to suspend talks regarding the Ricoh.
It might be an idea if we actually start to raise the issue. The headline in the national paper about insect invasion is just what we need but a lot more of it.
Perish the thought...I hate to fight for the talks to start and one of the 17 points was that CCFC are sold ACL.
It's probably pointless reminding you again, but you do realise that they haven't actually 'invested' any of their own money in this project?
They have put in loads of other people money which they've borrowed on the pretence that they will keep on re-borrowing to repay the last lot of money they borrowed.
Fucking poppycock ! Get your head out of the sand man, sisu have no intention of negotiating frig all re ground or academy. Can't and won't give names but contrary to what he has said in the media Chris Anderson played hard to get especially re the Higgs issue, the man is a gobshite !To show a united front that the football club and it's supporters condemn wasps for their action regarding the Higgs Centre and its decision to suspend talks regarding the Ricoh.
It might be an idea if we actually start to raise the issue. The headline in the national paper about insect invasion is just what we need but a lot more of it.
Probably an idea to raise awareness of Wasps abd SISU's action.
Firstly you may actually stand a chance of uniting everyone.
Secondly you may get some national attention.
It won't look great to the National Newspapers if they ask Wasps fir a comment before going to print. Then Wasps turn around and say yes we suspended talks over the Ricoh until the legal action has seen it course (sounds reasonable)
Then they say regarding the academy up until 6 weeks ago the football club were building their own academy. They still talked about it a few weeks ago.
Raising awareness of the actions of both the club and Wasps would be a far more successful approach
Correct it's pointless.
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