Nick
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Why shouldn't executives want more money?
This is why I'm trying to find out where the line is when it stops being ok and becomes greedy. Is there an amount?
Why shouldn't executives want more money?The strikers who have had 'results' so far this year have still taken below inflation increases.
Executive pay and dividends are still being paid handsomely so the money's there, its just finding its way to a small clique of people, it's time that changed.
People who go to work every day shouldn't be struggling to live.
Why shouldn't executives want more money?
This is why I'm trying to find out where the line is when it stops being ok and becomes greedy. Is there an amount?
So where's the line?Because they have year on year inflation busting pay increases where as most working people have effectively had pay cuts. Absolutely incredible you have to ask to be honest.
So where's the line?
You know where I work. I showed the guys your advice - they think your an entitled c**t who doesn’t live in the real world but honestly come round and explain why we close the place and throw everyone out of work as we can’t afford an inflation matching pay rise
I’m not joking the offers there
Where did I say that?
I said why are proper taking the time to qualify and take jobs knowing the salary etc if it's that bad?
I wouldn't say easiest job on the planet but have you got many plans for your few weeks off?
I don't actually. Getting stroppy I see-and choosing to ignore that pay has been falling in real terms for 12 years not 12 months. Pay has lagged behind inflation for this long that people don't have the financial strength to absorb the current price rises.
You're also speaking to someone in the small group of people who paid towards his own school fees, paid his parents rent etc unlike the man who put his kids up for free in all respects. Worked hard at uni, work hard at my job and so does my wife so...
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I've mentioned MPs. Cunts.Flip that on its head, how many years do you go with your pay reducing in real terms before you say enough is enough?
MPshave been rewarding themselves handsomely all through austerity but God forbid the working manwants an increase.
So where's the line?
Is every company owner getting dividends now upper class too?
At what point does somebody just wanting a better wage become the other end and just being greedy?I don't understand what you're saying?
I've mentioned MPs. Cunts.
Why is there no line then? What happens if somebody was on an amazing wage 5 years ago and it's balanced out now?
I'd be fucked if I was still doing the same job and the same salary as 10 years ago to be fair.
Should the cost of living amount be raised every year?
Yes but what's the line of somebody being greedy? If somebody is already on a wage well above the cost of living wage then is that greedy or ok?And some people are fucked and the current rises in fuel, energy and inflation have pushed them over the edge.
I don't blame anyone for saying enough is enough
You are so self entitled but the offers there - do you want to explain your rationale to real world people
it’s obvious you’ve been on a union jolly and it’s all great laughs - you certainly arent teaching are you? Or is it free periods every 10 minutes these days?
Then fair play to you for getting a decent pay rise every year in it!
I don't need to swallow anything about price spirals, I have seen the impact working for SMEs first hand who don't have greedy shareholders and huge profits to absorb the additional costs in. The same as mates who work in various trades who keep having to put their prices up to cover costs (yep fuel is mostly the government taking their taxes etc) but then it's the everyday person who then has to pay more for an electrician, plumber or carpenter.
Yes but what's the line of somebody being greedy? If somebody is already on a wage well above the cost of living wage then is that greedy or ok?
Say I'm a mid level manager on 75k but I wanted more, am I greedy or is that ok to down tools?
Which is why I'm asking where the line is...............Did the manager of Birmingham airport deserve a 50% pay rise? Who was warning him against causing an inflation spiral?
Which is why I'm asking where the line is...............
At what point does somebody just wanting a better wage become the other end and just being greedy?
Yes but what's the line of somebody being greedy? If somebody is already on a wage well above the cost of living wage then is that greedy or ok?
Say I'm a mid level manager on 75k but I wanted more, am I greedy or is that ok to down tools?
If you haven’t worked it out yet you’ve not being paying much attention.Why shouldn't executives want more money?
This is why I'm trying to find out where the line is when it stops being ok and becomes greedy. Is there an amount?
Train drivers are well above the average. Aren't they?You've started off criticising working people and have now moved to mid level managers earning well above the national average, it's not comparing like for like.
Train drivers are well above the average. Aren't they?
Train drivers are well above the average. Aren't they?
Yes, they are, though like everyone else, if they don't get a pay rise in line with inflation then essentially their wages decrease.
Many other railway staff aren't on above average wage though.
The train drivers haven't been on strike yet though, the other rail workers have.
Are you happy that we're paying dividends to share holders when we could be using the money to give them a pay rise.
And not every striking worker is greedy.It depends on the business and the dividends doesn't it?
Not every company owner (shareholders) are rinsing millions while they have slaves.
I didn't say they were greedy. I asked what the line was between wanting more and being greedy....And not every striking worker is greedy.
So why kick off with that, rather than criticising shareholders?
It depends on the business and the dividends doesn't it?
Not every company owner (shareholders) are rinsing millions while they have slaves.
I didn't say they were greedy. I asked what the line was between wanting more and being greedy....
Why can people ask for more money but share holders and bosses can't?
You started in this thread by deciding they earned enough already.I didn't say they were greedy. I asked what the line was between wanting more and being greedy....
Why can people ask for more money but share holders and bosses can't?
Probably the majority of small businesses that went bust.Can you think of any examples where executives and shareholders were denied remuneration to the point they were struggling to buy the basics?
Do you think that a national service should exist to give profit to foreign governments ahead of British workers?Probably the majority of small businesses that went bust.
Do we think train drivers can't buy the basics with 48k a year then?
I never said there were, but clearly there are companies (and government departments), who seem to be able to make profits, pay dividends and find money when it suits but plead poverty when it comes to giving the workers a rise.
People shouldn't put up with this shit any more.
Probably the majority of small businesses that went bust.
Do we think train drivers can't buy the basics with 48k a year then?
Should train drivers take a pay cut when executives don't?
Can people on 19k afford the basics given the re ent rises in fuel and energy?
As for small businesses, I feel sorry for anyone who went bust.
But lots of small businesses going bust isn't really a reason to deny workers in other sectors a pay rise is it?
Not at all, like I don’t want the train people on strike but non effects me I don’t even live in ukSo you'd like nurses to go on strike?
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