Transfer Shouts (44 Viewers)

KenilworthSkyBlue · Jul 20, 2022

shmmeee said:
There was a slight rumour either Panzo or Doyle (probably Panzo) was a potential LTB wasn’t there?

I don't really see why they'd do that?

Cooper rates him highly, proven by the fact that Forest paid a fee of up to £1.5m for him back in January.

A loan to buy doesn't really work this season. As if he performs well I'd imagine they'd be looking to receive a significant profit on him beyond what they paid, or conversely Cooper could look to bring him into the fold depending what league they're in/how well he performs.

Regardless, I'd imagine they'd want to take a look at how he copes with regular Championship football initially then go from there.

shmmeee · Jul 20, 2022

KenilworthSkyBlue said:
I don't really see why they'd do that?

Cooper rates him highly, proven by the fact that Forest paid a fee of up to £1.5m for him back in January.

A loan to buy doesn't really work this season. As if he performs well I'd imagine they'd be looking to receive a significant profit on him beyond what they paid, or conversely Cooper could look to bring him into the fold depending what league they're in/how well he performs.

Regardless, I'd imagine they'd want to take a look at how he copes with regular Championship football initially then go from there.

Just saying there was a rumour, and of the two Panzo is more likely than Doyle just because of his age really.

Agree it looks unlikely, but if Forest stay up and have several CBs ahead of him, I could see it.

KenilworthSkyBlue · Jul 20, 2022

shmmeee said:
Just saying there was a rumour, and of the two Panzo is more likely than Doyle just because of his age really.

Agree it looks unlikely, but if Forest stay up and have several CBs ahead of him, I could see it.

Yeah but in that case if he performs well, he'd likely attract a great deal of interest, meaning Forest could make a significant profit on what they paid for him.

If any pre-agreed LTB was structured similar to the Sheaf deal for instance, with an obligation to buy at the conclusion of the loan if certain clauses are met, then Forest could potentially be at risk of massively underselling Panzo depending on how well he performs.

Obviously that's not a given and there are other variables to consider, but I'd hazard a guess that's why they may just wait until next summer before making any concrete decisions on his future. Especially as he's only been at the club for six months.

SleepyGinger · Jul 20, 2022

There’s going to a massive turn over next summer, half of the squad are out of contract and unless you can get them to sign a new contract which is highly unlikely we will probably cash in on Hamer and Gyokeres.

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Jul 20, 2022

SleepyGinger said:
There’s going to a massive turn over next summer, half of the squad are out of contract and unless you can get them to sign a new contract which is highly unlikely we will probably cash in on Hamer and Gyokeres.

I’m pretty sure Hamer and Gyokeres will sign new contracts for us in the premier league

Sky Blue Harry H · Jul 20, 2022

shmmeee said:
TBH I’m not against loans, every other team uses them, some to excellent effect. As long as it’s as well as bringing in our own talent not instead of.

Djed Spence., Keinan Davis and Garner at Forest last season (made a huge difference to them.

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Jul 20, 2022

SlowerThanPlatt said:
The Huddersfield manager said he wasn’t capable of starting a game (fitness wise). With Robins already cautious about Palmer and warning fans it could take months up to get up to speed it would be strange to bring in another to replace the ever present O’Hare.

But maybe that’s the market we’re shopping in

Given the signings we have made so far, it is definitely the market we are shopping in.

If he is saying we could have up to four more in, and 'spinning plates', then you would have to imagine that means some departures happening, probably at least 2 if not 3. Hopefully though, they are players like Waghorn and Walker, rather than Gyokeres and Hamer.

KenilworthSkyBlue · Jul 20, 2022

Sky Blue Harry H said:
Djed Spence., Keinan Davis and Garner at Forest last season (made a huge difference to them.

The difference is though, would we able to attract/have the means to bring in those types of loans.

I'd imagine Forest paid a reasonable loan fee for Davis and didn't United/Garner actually turn us down a couple of seasons ago? To bring him back I do wonder if again they needed to pay a loan fee to secure his services.

SBAndy · Jul 20, 2022

SleepyGinger said:
There’s going to a massive turn over next summer, half of the squad are out of contract and unless you can get them to sign a new contract which is highly unlikely we will probably cash in on Hamer and Gyokeres.

It won’t matter that half of them are out of contract, I think we’re in a bit of a holding pattern to allow us to fully refresh next summer.

SBAndy · Jul 20, 2022

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Given the signings we have made so far, it is definitely the market we are shopping in.

If he is saying we could have up to four more in, and 'spinning plates', then you would have to imagine that means some departures happening, probably at least 2 if not 3. Hopefully though, they are players like Waghorn and Walker, rather than Gyokeres and Hamer.

I’d expect none out = 2 more in, O’Hare out means 4 more in.

Brighton Sky Blue · Jul 20, 2022

SBAndy said:
It won’t matter that half of them are out of contract, I think we’re in a bit of a holding pattern to allow us to fully refresh next summer.

Well that's pretty much it-which is why I'd hoped we'd hold off on big sales till then.

KenilworthSkyBlue · Jul 20, 2022

SBAndy said:
It won’t matter that half of them are out of contract, I think we’re in a bit of a holding pattern to allow us to fully refresh next summer.

Yeah pretty much all of the players out of contract we probably wanted rid of anyway.

Not particularly ideal the amount of loan players being brought on board this season though.

With significantly less permanent players on the books it'll be a pretty extensive rebuilding job next summer.

Skybluedownunder · Jul 20, 2022

Any reason we aren’t going after Jason Knight on the Derby clear out? Seems a much better option in midfield

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HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Jul 20, 2022

Skybluedownunder said:
Any reason we aren’t going after Jason Knight on the Derby clear out? Seems a much better option in midfield

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I’m sure I read he’s wanted by a prem team

SBT · Jul 20, 2022

Our Derby fans as pissed off as we were with Burnley, now that someone inside the club has apparently leaked confirmation that we’re after Bird and Sibley?

Tea & Busquets · Jul 20, 2022

Let's not forget how efficiently Forest used their loanees to secure promotion...

Hobo · Jul 20, 2022

SBT said:
Our Derby fans as pissed off as we were with Burnley, now that someone inside the club has apparently leaked confirmation that we’re after Bird and Sibley?

'Our Derby fans' I didn't know we had any?

Hobo · Jul 20, 2022

Tea & Busquets said:
Let's not forget how efficiently Forest used their loanees to secure promotion...

Too many I think. They are having to sign a huge amount of players. Can only see a season of struggle and coming straight back down.

Sky Blue Pete · Jul 20, 2022

SleepyGinger said:
There’s going to a massive turn over next summer, half of the squad are out of contract and unless you can get them to sign a new contract which is highly unlikely we will probably cash in on Hamer and Gyokeres.

Why unlikely

Sky Blue Harry H · Jul 20, 2022

Sky Blue Pete said:
Why unlikely

Unlikely, unless somehow we get promoted to the PL. They are both ambitious, and even with sky blue tinted specs, I cannot see them staying beyond next season. We are unlikely to be able to offer improved contracts, unless SISU free up substantial funds, which is also unlikely.

Sky Blue Pete · Jul 20, 2022

Sky Blue Harry H said:
Unlikely, unless somehow we get promoted to the PL. They are both ambitious, and even with sky blue tinted specs, I cannot see them staying beyond next season. We are unlikely to be able to offer improved contracts, unless SISU free up substantial funds, which is also unlikely.

Sorry thought you said no one would sign new contracts

Tea & Busquets · Jul 20, 2022

Hobo said:
Too many I think. They are having to sign a huge amount of players. Can only see a season of struggle and coming straight back down.

promotion is still the goal regardless of staying up or not. we need the money more than stable league standing atm.

higgs · Jul 20, 2022

Tea & Busquets said:
promotion is still the goal regardless of staying up or not. we need the money more than stable league standing atm.

If we got promoted would the aim be to buy out wasps?

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Hobo · Jul 20, 2022

higgs said:
If we got promoted would the aim be to buy out wasps?

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Why?

Samo · Jul 20, 2022

Hobo said:
Why?

Pure fun!

Hobo · Jul 20, 2022

Tea & Busquets said:
promotion is still the goal regardless of staying up or not. we need the money more than stable league standing atm.

I think one year promoted getting hammered every week might be counter productive for the squad and fans.

Hobo · Jul 20, 2022

Samo said:
Pure fun!

Wasps are a pure money drain, not fun !!

Samo · Jul 20, 2022

Hobo said:
Wasps are a pure money drain, not fun !!

I meant to buy them and send them packing or liquidate them.

Tea & Busquets · Jul 20, 2022

Hobo said:
I think one year promoted getting hammered every week might be counter productive for the squad and fans.

would £100,000,000 be counterproductive for the squad and fans?

skyblu3sk · Jul 20, 2022

Tea & Busquets said:
would £100,000,000 be counterproductive for the squad and fans?

Oddly maybe... I haven't enjoyed the football as much as I have in the last few years as we can actually compete. In the premiership it's all about just holding on. I don't want to watch others good players at the level I want to watch ours.

Hobo · Jul 20, 2022

Tea & Busquets said:
would £100,000,000 be counterproductive for the squad and fans?

So teams relegated come down showing huge profits?

Tea & Busquets · Jul 20, 2022

Hobo said:
So teams relegated come down showing huge profits?

think any profit would be good for us at this point…

Tea & Busquets · Jul 20, 2022

skyblu3sk said:
Oddly maybe... I haven't enjoyed the football as much as I have in the last few years as we can actually compete. In the premiership it's all about just holding on. I don't want to watch others good players at the level I want to watch ours.

think it would be better to sacrifice the quality of football we play just for a season to put the club in a better financial standing for future seasons. would we rather be the fulham’s or the rotherham’s of the bunch ?

PUSB-We_are_going_up · Jul 20, 2022

If we go up, then debts get payed off, more money is in the club. Can start the building of a new stadium. Then it looks an attractive buy for a new owner and even if we are only there for 1 season we can then go back to watching us play some good football and winning games

Deity · Jul 20, 2022

PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
If we go up, then debts get payed off, more money is in the club. Can start the building of a new stadium. Then it looks an attractive buy for a new owner and even if we are only there for 1 season we can then go back to watching us play some good football and winning games

It would be cheaper and quicker to buy wasps out than build a 35,000 stadium with facilities for diverse revenue streams.

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