Are you seriously suggesting that we use up a squad place for a player who's never going to challenge for a starting place, and we stop him from furthering his career, just because he's cheap?
Have you any idea how insane that sounds?
I disagree on this one Fatso and support what Harvey is saying. Many clubs hold on to good players to keep their strength across the whole squad. Look how many times Wolves hold on to good players who have no chance of getting in their squad. Biamou is cheap and a good alternative and like last season, if Baka doesn’t do the good with the opportunities he is given Biamou could over take him again.
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When did Biamou overtake Baka last season?
A hatrick against Southampton under 21s isnt a great comparison is it?He certainly did in the goal scoring stakes
He certainly did in the goal scoring stakes
I disagree on this one Fatso and support what Harvey is saying. Many clubs hold on to good players to keep their strength across the whole squad. Look how many times Wolves hold on to good players who have no chance of getting in their squad. Biamou is cheap and a good alternative and like last season, if Baka doesn’t do the good with the opportunities he is given Biamou could over take him again.
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You coul flip the question. I'm not convinced Baka has ever overtaken Max. He may have the potential to do so, but until he does the business, I'm not convinced he has (and if we're going with him, I hope he does)Bremang or Bapaga can fill in up front if we get three injuries.
When did Biamou overtake Baka last season?
Bremang or Bapaga can fill in up front if we get three injuries.
When did Biamou overtake Baka last season?
You coul flip the question. I'm not convinced Baka has ever overtaken Max. He may have the potential to do so, but until he does the business, I'm not convinced he has (and if we're going with him, I hope he does)
When they told Biamou he could leave in Jan and he chose to stay and scored goals and then ended up replacing him on the bench
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Has Biamou pissed off Robins? I can't believe Baka is on the bench and not Max
Has Biamou pissed off Robins? I can't believe Baka is on the bench and not Max
That leaves us with 2 strikers for the season...
Mental. He changed the game when he came on and he finished the only chance he had.I can’t believe you can’t believe it. Honestly Max is a lovely bloke with a knack for popping up with a goal but he’s not on the same level in footballing terms as Baka. His cameo against Gills showed that. Not on the same wavelength as the rest of the team at all. Did nothing other than pop up with a goal.
I can’t believe you can’t believe it. Honestly Max is a lovely bloke with a knack for popping up with a goal but he’s not on the same level in footballing terms as Baka. His cameo against Gills showed that. Not on the same wavelength as the rest of the team at all. Did nothing other than pop up with a goal.
So your judging Max on a cameo vs gills with little no no match fitness.
I think you will find Biamou has many more complete 90 min performances than Baka. Not even close.
I think that's pretty accurate FrostieAgreed but who's likely to be interested at the fee we would want for the players I listed?
We know Biamou has been told he can go, a move for Mason must be imminent & we'd desperately like to offload Kastaneer.
Other than that it'll surely only be loans for some of the youngsters (but not Billson).
No I’m basing it off watching Biamou most of the times he’s played and his technical ability being surpassed by the rest of the squad.
The football we play needs hard working technical footballers and that’s not Max
In your opinion.
Did nothing other than pop up with a goal.
Correct me if im wrong. But isn't the whole idea of football to score goals ?
No. It’s to win games. Otherwise we’d organise the entire table on goals scored and not points.
But to win a game you have to score a goal....
I agree with parts about Max but there does he does apear to be a marmite footballer. No middle ground just love or hate.
I mean obviously, I said it. But it’s backed by observation. His passes slowing down attacks, lack of closing down, general lack of thought other than trying to get himself into goal scoring positions.
Clearly that’s Robins’ opinion too and he has actual data, so I’m fairly confident in it.
Lets not go there with observation. I have seen literally seen almost every minute hes played live home and away. Admitedly i missed the Southampton u23 game (hatrick).
Yes its Robins opinion now also. And i fully agree with Robins.
Lets get back to the point.
Disagree fully with your opinion of Max as in the argument with Baka in terms of technical ability (he wouldnt score the goals he does 40 yarders/overhead kick/scissor kicks/volleys without technical ability to strike the ball cleanly and timing. And when it comes to work rate no contest. And im not talking about work rate as being running around like a headless chicken.
Your talking completely out of your arse.
Baka has more potential and arguably value to the club. Thats the reason hes in favor now. Potential to step up is there somewhere lol.
Biamou needs to find a league 1 club he deserves. As im sure he will well.
That’s a lot of words to say “I disagree”
Yes by all accounts Biamou spends a lot of time practicing overhead kicks. But that doesn’t mean he’s a better technical player. To reduce pressing and being back in position quickly to “running around like a headless chicken” is frankly hilarious. Max is the headless one. Look at Baka when he’s on: always working, consistent positioning, pressing defenders. These are the things Robins wants from his tram because we have to rely on the system to be greater than the sum of our parts. We don’t have the luxury of carrying a player not doing the off the ball work just in case they manage an overhead once every ten games.
You obviously didnt go to blackpool away few years ago. Bakas debut.
I will say no more.
What has Bakas debut got to do with Max right now?
Jesus you’re arguing that Robins and Viveash, who see both every day in training, don’t know as much as you. I’m just saying I can see why they think that way, the fact is still their decision is clearly Baka is ahead of Max.
He’s on Twitter and he scores spectacular goals, that’s why fans like Max. But no serious manager would use that reasoning.
But we're looking to move young players on for game time in the main (apart from Max, Kastaneer and Mason). They will likely be on low wages, cost less than a transfer for a lower club and we shouldn't be aiming for high loan fees, just getting game time for our young players.This could be a tricky time for the club to move any of the fringe players out, due to the impact of Covid on the finances of L1 & 2 clubs. We might end up with players training with little prospects of a game for longer than planned.
What has Bakas debut got to do with Max right now?
Jesus you’re arguing that Robins and Viveash, who see both every day in training, don’t know as much as you. I’m just saying I can see why they think that way, the fact is still their decision is clearly Baka is ahead of Max.
He’s on Twitter and he scores spectacular goals, that’s why fans like Max. But no serious manager would use that reasoning.
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