clint van damme
Well-Known Member
No idea but it's a good question.
I just can't see beyond a Trump win though at this point
Would you say it’s likely that those who were overtly racist would probably be voting for Trump anyway at this point? Or is there a possibility that Harris ends up mobilising yet more Trump support?
Trump Is bound to say something utterly ludicrous and ridiculous before now and the election for sure, but many over there still seem to lap it all up.Well anything can happen in 3 months, agreed.
And Trump has got his own cognitive issues, just nowhere near as bad as Bidens, but there may be more focus on them now but if I had to call it I'd say Trump wins.
US global reputation/decline under Biden:
National debt of $35 trillion and out of control, +35% since 2020, no credible plan for management of debt resulting in downgrade of US credit rating in 2023.
Reduced global importance of USD, rise of BRICS and accelerating de-dollarisation.
Chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan debacle was a national humiliation and seen as confirmation of weak leadership.
Open southern border accelerating massive fentanyl epidemic est cost to economy > $1.5 trillion.
US politics, especially leadership, widely seen as a global laughing stock.
Trump Is bound to say something utterly ludicrous and ridiculous before now and the election for sure, but many over there still seem to lap it all up.
US global reputation/decline under Biden:
National debt of $35 trillion and out of control, +35% since 2020, no credible plan for management of debt resulting in downgrade of US credit rating in 2023.
Reduced global importance of USD, rise of BRICS and accelerating de-dollarisation.
Chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan debacle was a national humiliation and seen as confirmation of weak leadership.
Open southern border accelerating massive fentanyl epidemic est cost to economy > $1.5 trillion.
US politics, especially leadership, widely seen as a global laughing stock.
.just remembered,, to add to my other points on this post, it was Trump who began the withdrawal from AfghanistanClueless
Dream on dreamer, another one living in cuckoo land
Clueless
No idea but it's a good question.
I just can't see beyond a Trump win though at this point
I heard a bit of some US politics expert on the radio the other day and he was saying don’t necessarily be fooled by the national polling, it’s all about the swing states (as we know) and they’re obviously going to be a lot closer. Plenty to play for still.
I’d personally rather a proper process rather an anointment of Harris but not sure they’ll have the time to get someone new in and to then get their profile/messaging across to public before election. Shitshow from the democrats really
I do wonder if this changes the 'it will come down to 4 states' narrative.
You're right, it's a Democratic shitshow. Biden should have gone after the televised debate.
Said it before, but this will be the second time the Democrats have messed up a let Trump in.
Incredibly careless from a party with the ability to rig elections!
No I don't think that , but i feel like its one reason ...benghazi amongst many things was a bigger reasonYou seriously think that Clinton being a woman is why people didn't like her?
Be interesting to know how long ago senior people in the party knew Biden was done and whether they’ve been trying to get him to step down in recent months but he’s refused, or whether they genuinely believed he could limp along, win the election and Harris take over in a year or so
Trump just needs to keep his head down and his mouth shut. The only way he can now lose is if he balls it up himself.
You do now this is Trump you are talking about, he also has to debate the new candidate a couple of times.Trump just needs to keep his head down and his mouth shut. The only way he can now lose is if he balls it up himself.
It's insane that an 81 year old is any presidential election bidBe interesting to know how long ago senior people in the party knew Biden was done and whether they’ve been trying to get him to step down in recent months but he’s refused, or whether they genuinely believed he could limp along, win the election and Harris take over in a year or so
It's insane that an 81 year old is any presidential election bid
They could kill that easily, by bringing in a 'not allowed to put yourself forward after the age of 75,' then if anyone did get in, in their mid 70's, they could only run for one term.Or a 78 year old!
It's asking for trouble.
If Trump wins he’ll be the oldest president in US history my the end of the next term.Or a 78 year old!
It's asking for trouble.
.just remembered,, to add to my other points on this post, it was Trump who began the withdrawal from Afghanistan
And if Trump loses can you honestly see him deciding not to go again in 2028?
This is correct but I'd go further.They could kill that easily, by bringing in a 'not allowed to put yourself forward after the age of 75,' then if anyone did get in, in their mid 70's, they could only run for one term.
Hmmm. Ignoring what he descended into now, the Trump presidency saw 200,000 manufacturing jobs lost whereas the Biden one saw 800,000 gained. Pretty significant given how much effort Trump went to in order to get a lot of those industrial states in 2016.US global reputation/decline under Biden:
National debt of $35 trillion and out of control, +35% since 2020, no credible plan for management of debt resulting in downgrade of US credit rating in 2023.
Reduced global importance of USD, rise of BRICS and accelerating de-dollarisation.
Chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan debacle was a national humiliation and seen as confirmation of weak leadership.
Open southern border accelerating massive fentanyl epidemic est cost to economy > $1.5 trillion.
US politics, especially leadership, widely seen as a global laughing stock.
Hmmm. Ignoring what he descended into now, the Trump presidency saw 200,000 manufacturing jobs lost whereas the Biden one saw 800,000 gained. Pretty significant given how much effort Trump went to in order to get a lot of those industrial states in 2016.
Biden with the CHIPS and Inflation Reduction Acts has done more to mitigate American decline than any president ever. Hugely successful and radical industrial policy. But I saw a big number on Twitter and historical trends are still trending so he must be the worst president ever
The 800,000 jobs claim isn't quite that simple. Most of those weren't new jobs created by Biden.
About 600,000 of those are jobs that were "recovered" in 2021/22 after the layoffs during Covid. That's still around 200,000 newly created jobs which isn't to be sniffed at - but it's certainly way less than the 800,000, or even 15 million claim that Biden made a few months ago.
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