Trust Question (1 Viewer)

Nick · May 28, 2013

I know that there are some legal / financial people working with the Trust, has any research been done on Haskell for example to see if he would be a better option than SISU?

I know people aren't mind readers so can't see what he has in his head with the club BUT should there be some research into the other options on the table at the minute before trying to force SISU out?

ps. The meeting at the Hilton at 9.30, surely a large % of people will be at work?

Sky Blue Dal · May 28, 2013

Here's some stuff I found on the Jaguars forum.

http://forum.jaguars.com/index.php?showtopic=707956

They sound like the Ewing family. I'm happy if the IV is like Bobby. If like JR then avoid like the plague.

Sorry if this has been posted before.

lordsummerisle · May 28, 2013

Sky Blue Dal said:
Here's some stuff I found on the Jaguars forum.

http://forum.jaguars.com/index.php?showtopic=707956

They sound like the Ewing family.

Sorry if this has been posted before.

Basically his dad had a minority interest, got loads of contracts for work on the stadium, but IV had nothing to do with them.

Is it McGinnity Mark II?

Steve.B50 · May 28, 2013

Nick said:
I know that there are some legal / financial people working with the Trust, has any research been done on Haskell for example to see if he would be a better option than SISU?

I know people aren't mind readers so can't see what he has in his head with the club BUT should there be some research into the other options on the table at the minute before trying to force SISU out?

ps. The meeting at the Hilton at 9.30, surely a large % of people will be at work?

We have done some work on checking him out but what we have Found does not matter as any decision is out of our hands.
With regards to the meeting tomorrow, we never set it, this has to be advertised and all creditors are invited.
They would not organise it at time to suit us, will only be a handful I imagine anyway, but that's Coventry for you.

lordsummerisle · May 28, 2013

Steve.B50 said:
We have done some work on checking him out but what we have Found does not matter as any decision is out of our hands.
With regards to the meeting tomorrow, we never set it, this has to be advertised and all creditors are invited.
They would not organise it at time to suit us, will only be a handful I imagine anyway, but that's Coventry for you.

Any decision is out of your hands so you'll sit on any information that may be available to you, or are you the only people intelligent enough to process this information?

Animal Farm springs to mind.

theferret · May 28, 2013

lordsummerisle said:
Any decision is out of your hands so you'll sit on any information that may be available to you, or are you the only people intelligent enough to process this information?

Animal Farm springs to mind.

“No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?”

Colin1883 · May 28, 2013

theferret said:
“No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?”

But some are more equal than others!!!

*smiley face*

Waldorf · May 28, 2013

lordsummerisle said:
Any decision is out of your hands so you'll sit on any information that may be available to you, or are you the only people intelligent enough to process this information?

Animal Farm springs to mind.

Or maybe they don't actually have the information you think they have?

shy_tall_knight · May 28, 2013

I have stated this on an earlier post. worked for a company that was taken over by a hedge, the were ruthless but they were determined with a strategy and they succeeded in making a profit when selling the company 2 years later. Their main war cry was that they would get us into the premiership and then look to sell us on. Invested funds to begin with paid some old debts etc.. looked true to their wood. Won't blame anybody who believed in them initially.

theferret · May 28, 2013

Waldorf said:
Or maybe they don't actually have the information you think they have?

Perhaps, but then the line...

"We have done some work on checking him out but what we have Found does not matter as any decision is out of our hands."

..suggests they found something, so why not share it with us, what harm can it do?

lordsummerisle · May 28, 2013

theferret said:
Perhaps, but then the line...

"We have done some work on checking him out but what we have Found does not matter as any decision is out of our hands."

..suggests they found something, so why not share it with us, what harm can it do?

Of course.

Do wish sometimes that people would actually read posts, I wasn't just making it up out of some paranoid fear that people were deliberately hiding something.

There are plenty of other people on here for that.

chiefdave · May 28, 2013

Steve.B50 said:
We have done some work on checking him out but what we have Found does not matter as any decision is out of our hands.

Surely if you have information you should release it and let people make up their own minds? To say it "does not matter as any decision is out of our hands" is slightly bizarre, what's the point of the protest tomorrow or indeed the trust getting involved in anything to do with the club at the moment?

Nonleagueherewecome · May 28, 2013

Nick said:
I know that there are some legal / financial people working with the Trust, has any research been done on Haskell for example to see if he would be a better option than SISU?

I know people aren't mind readers so can't see what he has in his head with the club BUT should there be some research into the other options on the table at the minute before trying to force SISU out?

ps. The meeting at the Hilton at 9.30, surely a large % of people will be at work?

Cyril says he's alright. Job done.

PS force SISU out has to come first otherwise there won't be anybody able to come in ("the club is not for sale"). Fortunately, those wheels are well in motion now; Timmy can reach for the hand-break all he likes, Joy hasn't had the brakes serviced anyway to save money

Steve.B50 · May 28, 2013

lordsummerisle said:
Any decision is out of your hands so you'll sit on any information that may be available to you, or are you the only people intelligent enough to process this information?

Animal Farm springs to mind.

I was just giving a reply to a question by Nick
Just to confirm, we have checked him out but anyone can do that, nothing important to report.
Anyway, it does not matter what we think.

letsallsingtogether · May 28, 2013

Yes just google his name and you will get the same information nothing dark I'm afraid

Steve.B50 said:
I was just giving a reply to a question by Nick
Just to confirm, we have checked him out but anyone can do that, nothing important to report.
Anyway, it does not matter what we think.

VegetableSamosa · May 29, 2013

The Council's financial control team will have probably done a more thorough background check on him too, using the might of the country's bureaucracy. So, if ACL make any public statement about working with him or accepting the 50% of the ground he wanted, then that would be some sort of indication on whether or not he's a better choice.

lordsummerisle · May 29, 2013

VegetableSamosa said:
The Council's financial control team will have probably done a more thorough background check on him too, using the might of the country's bureaucracy. So, if ACL make any public statement about working with him or accepting the 50% of the ground he wanted, then that would be some sort of indication on whether or not he's a better choice.

Their positive vetting worked a treat with Sisu last time.

VegetableSamosa · May 29, 2013

lordsummerisle said:
Their positive vetting worked a treat with Sisu last time.

There's a difference between a background check and predicting their future policies. In the first few years, SISU were decent and cleared a lot of our debts. It's just the past few season they've gone crazy. Besides, they were trying to buy half of a council owned business

italiahorse · May 29, 2013

Nick said:
I know that there are some legal / financial people working with the Trust, has any research been done on Haskell for example to see if he would be a better option than SISU?

I know people aren't mind readers so can't see what he has in his head with the club BUT should there be some research into the other options on the table at the minute before trying to force SISU out?

ps. The meeting at the Hilton at 9.30, surely a large % of people will be at work?

He wants the Ricoh. He's better full stop.

lordsummerisle · May 29, 2013

VegetableSamosa said:
There's a difference between a background check and predicting their future policies. In the first few years, SISU were decent and cleared a lot of our debts. It's just the past few season they've gone crazy. Besides, they were trying to buy half of a council owned business

Don't think that they actually cleared any debts at all really though, just converted it into "loans".

Mucca Mad Boys · May 29, 2013

italiahorse said:
He wants the Ricoh. He's better full stop.

But couldn't he then lock us out or charge us even more in rent!? - that's what some people say of SISU.

italiahorse · May 29, 2013

SkyBlue_Taylor said:
But couldn't he then lock us out or charge us even more in rent!? - that's what some people say of SISU.

Why would he do that ? He would own the club as well :facepalm:

lordsummerisle · May 29, 2013

italiahorse said:
Why would he do that ? He would own the club as well :facepalm:

Charging us more rent would be a pretty standard practice, what the Walsall owner does.

Suppose the rent level would fluctaute with whichever needs to show more of a loss for "tax reasons".

All funny money though in the end.

Mucca Mad Boys · May 29, 2013

italiahorse said:
Why would he do that ? He would own the club as well :facepalm:

It was a joke because the conspiracy theorists on here suggest that would happen if SISU gained control of the RICOH. - slightly hypocritical those same theorists do not, however, rouse the same suspicions about PH4 - I personally think it's nonsense to suggest either party would do such a thing.

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