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SkyblueBazza

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  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #106
Johnnythespider said:
I'd love a new stadium, four stands rather than a bowl with 3 great spires built into 3 corners to represent the 3 spires of Coventry and the 4th left open and positioned to welcome the sunrise on the winter solstice, just because.
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You old romantic you!

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Limey

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  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #107
Liquid Gold said:
Don't worry a phoenix club could play at the ricoh
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With the same financial restrictions we already have. We'd be a nice little club that wasps could keep in their pockets though.
I really hope it doesn't come to that.
 
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oldfiver

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #108
Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon said:
I suppose my point/fear is that just because it's none of CCFC's concern doesn't mean that it will attract the Council's support because they will be looking at the interests of the City as a whole (which wouldn't be served by a failed Ricoh, brought on by CCFC moving away). Hopefully i'm wrong, the parties can prove that it's viable and we end up with a proper home. I think the bigger problem is probably that the Joy Seppala Memorial Stadium will only ever get built

if SISU can get somebody else to pay for it.
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Isn't that what WASPs have done?
 

CJ_covblaze

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  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #109
chiefdave said:
Alternatively they give everyone a way to back down from their entrenched positions.

SISU can say they are dropping the legals as they need the council onside for a new stadium

The council can say we will support any new stadium project and in the meantime it makes sense to stay at the Ricoh as its the only option

Wasps can say we appreciate the club needs their own stadium and that the Ricoh is the only stadium currently available so will agree a medium term deal

Everyone comes out of it looking good, or as good as can be expected from where we are now and if the legals are dropped to allow that to proceed can anyone see SISU sticking around for years to come?

Most importantly it would mean we have somewhere to play next season.
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This is the best possible outcome at present.
 
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olderskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #110
Nick said:
I think you might be confusing the words and their meanings.

If you are now saying it's down to the new owner to decide if it's needed or feasible, why are the Trust now deciding?

It's either needed or it isn't, I find the fact they put that bit in a bit weird. Hopefully CJ will clear it up though.
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I think you are confusing reasoned argument with a desperate need to try to prove me wrong?

The trust deciding??? I think they are entitled to a view, whether we think it's right or wrong is up to us.

it's either needed or it isn't?? Are you sure about that? Things never change then? What if a new owner came in and did a deal for 1/2 the ricoh? would another new ground still be needed?
I needed a BMW 330i convertible years ago, but then got a call to say my daughter was expecting. I then needed an X5.... Things change.. :emoji_smile:

We've already agreed the trust didn't need to add that bit.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #111
olderskyblue said:
I think you are confusing reasoned argument with a desperate need to try to prove me wrong?

The trust deciding??? I think they are entitled to a view, whether we think it's right or wrong is up to us.

it's either needed or it isn't?? Are you sure about that? Things never change then? What if a new owner came in and did a deal for 1/2 the ricoh? would another new ground still be needed?
I needed a BMW 330i convertible years ago, but then got a call to say my daughter was expecting. I then needed an X5.... Things change.. :emoji_smile:

We've already agreed the trust didn't need to add that bit.
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Why are people referring to the trust as "they"? Surely they are representing the members? If it is just giving the views of 4 or 5 people and some in the background then why do they speak like they represent the fans?

Of course things change, as it stands at the minute things like a new stadium shouldn't be ruled out as "not needed"
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #112
olderskyblue said:
What if a new owner came in and did a deal for 1/2 the ricoh? would another new ground still be needed?
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Yes.
 
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olderskyblue

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  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #113
Nick said:
Why are people referring to the trust as "they"? Surely they are representing the members? If it is just giving the views of 4 or 5 people and some in the background then why do they speak like they represent the fans?

Of course things change, as it stands at the minute things like a new stadium shouldn't be ruled out as "not needed"
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I guess they represent the views of the fans that go to the meetings?

There is zero chance of a new stadium, so you might think it's needed, but, contrary to all the bluster from SISU, they clearly don't.
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #114
Johnnythespider said:
I'd love a new stadium, four stands rather than a bowl with 3 great spires built into 3 corners to represent the 3 spires of Coventry and the 4th left open and positioned to welcome the sunrise on the winter solstice, just because.
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And a naked lady trotting around on a horse at half time repping lady godiva. For authenticity.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #115
Johnnythespider said:
I'd love a new stadium, four stands rather than a bowl with 3 great spires built into 3 corners to represent the 3 spires of Coventry and the 4th left open and positioned to welcome the sunrise on the winter solstice, just because.
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Where would you stick Joy's statue?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #116
Liquid Gold said:
Where would you stick Joy's statue?
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There's a question!
 
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Johnnythespider

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  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #117
Skybluefaz said:
And a naked lady trotting around on a horse at half time repping lady godiva. For authenticity.
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Yeah but not Pru Poretta, she's a council stooge
 

olderskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #118
Deleted member 5849 said:
Yes.
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For the under 23's ?
 

Johnnythespider

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #119
Liquid Gold said:
Where would you stick Joy's statue?
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Right up Duggin's a@#@*#%e
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #120
olderskyblue said:
I guess they represent the views of the fans that go to the meetings?

There is zero chance of a new stadium, so you might think it's needed, but, contrary to all the bluster from SISU, they clearly don't.
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Do they actually represent members? I'd disagree with that, which is why they should just keep things simple.

I'm sure they would love a new stadium.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #121
We could take the seats from the Ricoh and then London Wasps can put their own in.

Cost saving already.
 

Nick

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  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #122
Liquid Gold said:
Where would you stick Joy's statue?
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Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon

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  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #123
oldfiver said:
Isn't that what WASPs have done?
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It was built by the time they got here yes but they didn't set out with the express intent of getting somebody else to finance a stadium for them. Obviously I could be wrong about SISU too but I don't trust them to be genuine in their dealings and I doubt any of the other parties do either.
 

Captain Dart

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  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #124
Deleted member 5849 said:
tbh, I'd be deeply suspicious of SISU's claim they didn't know the deal was happening. The move back always looked like hurtling back in an attenmpt to either claim squatter's rights and stop Wasps buying it, or to try and raise the value with CCFC there again as tenant, to make it unviable as a purchase.
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I got multiple verbal assaults for asking if that claim rang true. I did not even state my opinion, though you might be able to figure it out.
 

Warwickhunt

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  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #125
Skybluefaz said:
And a naked lady trotting around on a horse at half time repping lady godiva. For authenticity.
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Mental Picture of Anne Lucas in the nude on the back of a horse riding through the streets of Coventry
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #126
chiefdave said:
Alternatively they give everyone a way to back down from their entrenched positions.

SISU can say they are dropping the legals as they need the council onside for a new stadium

The council can say we will support any new stadium project and in the meantime it makes sense to stay at the Ricoh as its the only option

Wasps can say we appreciate the club needs their own stadium and that the Ricoh is the only stadium currently available so will agree a medium term deal

Everyone comes out of it looking good, or as good as can be expected from where we are now and if the legals are dropped to allow that to proceed can anyone see SISU sticking around for years to come?

Most importantly it would mean we have somewhere to play next season.
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Not unreasonable. Hopefully the stare down will be over in a while..
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #127
Warwickhunt said:
Mental Picture of Anne Lucas in the nude on the back of a horse riding through the streets of Coventry
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #128
Get Seppalla, Richardson and Duggins into a room, lock it, last one alive gets council, CCFC, Wasps and Ricoh
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #129
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Get Seppalla, Richardson and Duggins into a room, lock it, last one alive gets council, CCFC, Wasps and Ricoh
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Live stream it
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #130
SkyblueBri said:
Why the downer on anything the Trust do they’re fans like we all are and there’s nowt wrong with that statement
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Because it's pro council bollocks mate.

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #131
Nick said:
Live stream it
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Clive can commentate
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #132
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Clive can commentate
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"Joy Duggins really went in on Freddy Eastwood there"
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #133
Nick said:
The new stadium more than likely is a negotiation tactic at the minute, the same as "dropping the legals is".

The thing is the Council and Wasps want them to drop their negotiation tactics before even opening the door for negotiations which won't happen and they know that full well.
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Don’t get this.

A tactic is needed by Sisu for the overall aim of continuing the distressing of CCC/Wasps or getting the Ricoh on the cheap (delete as appropriate).

What is dropping the legals a tactic for? Isn’t it just then end goal? Do you think talks wouldn’t happen if legals were dropped?
 

Captain Dart

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  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #134
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Get Seppalla, Richardson and Duggins into a room, lock it, last one alive gets council, CCFC, Wasps and Ricoh
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I understand one of them can't be killed but I don't know which one.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #135
Liquid Gold said:
"Joy Duggins really went in on Freddy Eastwood there"
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GREAT FINISH BY JORDY BAKAYOKO
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #136
Captain Dart said:
I understand one of them can't be killed but I don't know which one.
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Sepalla-can’t kill they who have no life
 
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Seaside-Skyblue

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  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #137
I personally would love a new stadium if it came to fruition. It should be plan A ideally if funds existed for one. At minimum then carrying on at the Ricoh would be fine. Although I'm actually surprised the seats haven't been turned to yellow and black yet to be honest. Its a statement of their opinion which is ok. I doubt SISU will read it and think it reflects the general fan base opinion and scratch off the idea based on that so i dont think we need to worry.

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Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #138
shmmeee said:
Don’t get this.

A tactic is needed by Sisu for the overall aim of continuing the distressing of CCC/Wasps or getting the Ricoh on the cheap (delete as appropriate).

What is dropping the legals a tactic for? Isn’t it just then end goal? Do you think talks wouldn’t happen if legals were dropped?
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You can't see why they wouldn't give things up like that BEFORE any talks even start? Where the council and wasps could then do whatever?

They have said they are willing to drop, of course it's not gospel but we won't find out
 
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oldfiver

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  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #139
Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon said:
It was built by the time they got here yes but they didn't set out with the express intent of getting somebody else to finance a stadium for them. Obviously I could be wrong about SISU too but I don't trust them to be genuine in their dealings and I doubt any of the other parties do either.
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But the initial finance to buy the stadium was in place - the Council rolled over the loan until WASPs raised their own
This was a sweet deal that trebled the value ( allegedly ) to enable WASPS finance to find £36m of Bondholders. The monies raised provided funds to clear the initial debt, the Chairmans Loan account plus some change to pay the Bond interest back to the Holders with their own money.
 

Gibbo

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 15, 2019
  • #140
Deleted member 5849 said:
Yes.
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why?
 
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