I am aware of this but however you want to dress it up you are funding all of our competitors and not your own team.
I am aware of this but however you want to dress it up you are funding all of our competitors and not your own team.Did higher numbers stop us selling players, like the entertainers, in the 90’s? We have always been a selling club, regardless of numbers.
Seems to me you are deliberately trying to find comments to latch on to to justify your own decision
Muster? Ah ok.And this is all you can muster in justifying yours?
I agree.
Everyone on here has different ideas, morals and standards. Not a problem. The problem is when someone tries to force them upon others.
So you cant then.Muster? Ah ok.
Flawed logic the Tories under Thatcher were xyz so Boris must be of that mindset too. Every incumbent will do things their way. I don't belive SISU sell unless they see value in that sale in line with market forces. It's clear if we have more money the need to sell dynamic reduces and means we can sell more strategically.Did higher numbers stop us selling players, like the entertainers, in the 90’s? We have always been a selling club, regardless of numbers.
We have different opinions I accept that. I accept you not going to home games. I just feel its wrong to only go to away games. Not forcing anything on you.As opposed to people drastically swinging arguments into telling people on my side of the fence that they’re wrong, when what’s being spoken about is almost irrelevant?
Some great points being made from objective fans above. I am staggered how hard some are trying to take the moral high ground and convicting themselves of their arguments. If they are open minded or at the very least can see beyond the end of their nose, they might just see their moral grandstanding is pretty hollow this time around.
I really hope we'd learn from then.Yes a bit like Northampton all over again.
Yes a bit like Northampton all over again.
Trust someone who only ever sees one side of anything to make such a comment.What have morals and standards got to do with attending a football match
Thankyou. I may change my mind and did so last time when I initially decided not to go in L2 but as has been said as it stands now I will not be attending “home games”.Adge normally agree with you but on this I don't. It's not opinion at all that only going to away games starves our club of money and lines the pockets of other teams. It's basic economics.
It was odd watching CCFC in a different stadium but the pitch was top class and the fans did a great job for the team.
I don't want CCFC away from Coventry any longer than we have to be but we are in a difficult situation as a club and most recently it was not of our making at all.
Hope you change your mind on SA but you are entitled not to. You however will also forfit the right to complain when we sell our best player at Christmas and derail our promotion push.
No I can’t. See you at Bolton next week. :emoji_thumbsup:So you cant then.
Trust someone who only ever sees one side of anything to make such a comment.
You see, I don't find the behaviour from our owners particularly different from Northampton, the patterns are the same.
Then again, I was never for an organised boycott there either, to try for one try ends (and ended) up remarkably divisive. It also wasnt a single issue then, it's not now either.
Not having it the other way though, and not going to be told what to do by anybody.
It really isn't different this time.It is very different this time mate, if wasps hadn't asked us to cover them if they were found to be in the wrong with the EU we would have been playing at the Ricoh yesterday simple as that. Don't get me wrong, sisu have done some deplorable sh!t in the past and that should never be forgotten but this time it is very different and I'd be shocked if we aren't back at the Ricoh by the end of the season as I don't think wasps/the council thought we would have any other option than to sign up to the insane deal that was put on the table (in a change to the original one that was put forward)
It really isn't different this time.
That's true.The perception from supporters is that it is different
The spirit to try to keep our club alive come what may.That’s the spirit!
And here we go again. The most vocal amongst us are rightas usual and there are supposedly no other reasons.
I am a shift worker. If I lived in Coventry I would be able to go to home games when working a Saturday night shift but couldn't make it playing in Birmingham. How about the infirm who can just make it to the Ricoh but certainly couldn't do a whole season travelling to Birmingham. How about those who can just about stretch their finances to cover a ST but can't cover travelling to Birmingham every game. You will even have some who have a partner who works shifts and have to be home to look after the kids.
It isn't as black and white as some like to make out.
You know, I've spent my life dealing with patterns and precedent.
Club announce staying at Ricoh is Plan A, negotiate deal to make it affordable to do so, reach agreement with other party.
SISU have to clear it, at which point Joy Seppala intervenes, rejects the agreed deal.
The message is sent out that the club cannot sign a deal as it would befinancially unviable for the club. The club, however, are keen to continue negotiating.
The club announce plans to build a new ground, and offer some vague substance to back it up.
With reluctance, the club moves elsewhere.
Now... the detail and the characters involved may change, but this scenario could apply equally to Northampton or now!
Now, last time wasn't as simple as SISU bad, everyone else whiter than white. The same applies this time in reverse. And yes, you can put in the ah but thus happened too from other parties, and chances are it'll be valid.
But that won't effect this particular organisation's pattern.
They were all shysters at Northampton, they're all shysters now.
When we moved to Northampton it was a tactical decision to break the management company of the Ricoh. It failed as they found another option and there was a miscalculation by Fisher about how many fans that were prepared not to travel for various reasons. This move showed if enough fans travelled it would have suited our owners to be away from the Ricoh. Currently Sepalla seems to have realised that there is a chance of a bid for the club so the club needs potential to drive the price up. The best solution for the owners is a series of short term deals at the Ricoh that maximises profit but minimises the benefit to Wasps. Push for the championship and slowly wait for Wasps to buckle. This perfect solution for CCFC was the destroyed the moment the Euro action that cannot be rescinded wa taken. Whoever signed off on that should be sacked on the spot. Wasps want that mitigated as it cant be rescinded and it's a threat to their entire business. SISU can never cover the risk from it. The shit bit for the fans if we start to get over 10k at St Andrews we will be there for as long as they allow us. It's back to the Northampton scenario but with the right numbers. It could take 10 years to break Wasps it could take 1 year nobody has a clue. Whilst we get 6k our owners will want to go back to the short term deals at the Ricoh. Yet If we only get 6k it affects our playing budget. You get 10k plus we will have a better squad again.
Absolute shitty catch 22 for the fans, we really can't win.
Simple matter is if you go it's not about been a super fan you just go because you want to as you enjoy it and you don't want to give it up. If you don't go it's either because you can't be arsed or a moral stance. If it's a moral stance and you then go to Wembley then you are a hypocrite.
So each decision going or not going has a positive for the club so don't criticise each other for whatever the other chooses to do.
I agreed with all of this until you called those who go to Wembley “hypocrites”When we moved to Northampton it was a tactical decision to break the management company of the Ricoh. It failed as they found another option and there was a miscalculation by Fisher about how many fans that were prepared not to travel for various reasons. This move showed if enough fans travelled it would have suited our owners to be away from the Ricoh. Currently Sepalla seems to have realised that there is a chance of a bid for the club so the club needs potential to drive the price up. The best solution for the owners is a series of short term deals at the Ricoh that maximises profit but minimises the benefit to Wasps. Push for the championship and slowly wait for Wasps to buckle. This perfect solution for CCFC was destroyed the moment the Euro action that cannot be rescinded was taken. Whoever signed off on that should be sacked on the spot. Wasps want that mitigated as it cant be rescinded and it's a threat to their entire business. SISU can never cover the risk from it. The shit bit for the fans if we start to get over 10k at St Andrews we will be there for as long as they allow us. It's back to the Northampton scenario but with the right numbers. It could take 10 years to break Wasps it could take 1 year nobody has a clue. Whilst we get 6k our owners will want to go back to the short term deals at the Ricoh. Yet If we only get 6k it affects our playing budget. You get 10k plus we will have a better squad again.Absolute shitty catch 22 for the fans, we really can't win.Simple matter is if you go it's not about been a super fan you just go because you want to as you enjoy it and you don't want to give it up. If you don't go it's either because you can't be arsed or a moral stance. If it's a moral stance and you then go to Wembley then you are a hypocrite.So each decision going or not going has a positive for the club so don't criticise each other for whatever the other chooses to do.
I agreed with all of this until you called those who go to Wembley “hypocrites”
Shit loads of people will go to Wembley just for a day out, or to treat their kids.
Some who can’t afford to go to a game every other week will splash out for a one off event.
For those of us fortunate enough to have enough disposable income to follow the club regularly to start calling out others, is purely childish, and undermines your arguments.
Not really, Their choice.I said if they are taking the moral stance, (away games only and NOMP to SISU).
Then turn up at Wembley, unfortunately that is a bit hypocritical dont you think?
Perfectly fair point. Have always been all for Wasps protests - me and 20 othersI’d offer one difference when it comes to any potential protest: regardless of how we got there, at Sixfields it was within the clubs gift to return should they wish, so pressure on the club itself was a legitimate tactic. This time around CCFC aren’t in that situation, so action at games is pointless.
Yes but one where SISU get the money like BrumNot really, Their choice.
Wembley is an away game after all.
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