Grendel
Well-Known Member
We would have been without the two goals
Yup, but we very nearly got knocked out the tournament.
Kane was essentially playing as a defensive midfielder against the Swiss. Either he can’t follow instructions or he isn’t fitOn what basis would Watkins and Toney improve us?
Between Watkins and Toney, they have 4 international goals. Neither have proven they can realistically challenge Kane for a starting berth.
There’s a lot of amnesia here, before the Euros it was consistently said that England struggle for goals without Kane.
Still the best option we have and that isn’t even worth debating. He was up against Akanji who is a world class CB and Switzerland were a stoppage time equaliser away from winning their group ahead of Germany.Kane was essentially playing as a defensive midfielder against the Swiss. Either he can’t follow instructions or he isn’t fit
What has being up against Akanji got to do with him drifting behind the attacking midfielders?Still the best option we have and that isn’t even worth debating. He was up against Akanji who is a world class CB and Switzerland were a stoppage time equaliser away from winning their group ahead of Germany.
Watkins nor Toney have lit up the team when they’ve played for England. Kane faced the same criticisms at the last Euros.
With respect , akanji is not world class and toney has played 157 minutes for England with a goal and assistStill the best option we have and that isn’t even worth debating. He was up against Akanji who is a world class CB and Switzerland were a stoppage time equaliser away from winning their group ahead of Germany.
Watkins nor Toney have lit up the team when they’ve played for England. Kane faced the same criticisms at the last Euros.
Simply because they would be playing higher up the pitch, therefore giving us an outlet and helping us break out of defence. It would help take us off the back foot and push the opposition back a bit too.On what basis would Watkins and Toney improve us?
Between Watkins and Toney, they have 4 international goals. Neither have proven they can realistically challenge Kane for a starting berth.
There’s a lot of amnesia here, before the Euros it was consistently said that England struggle for goals without Kane.
Simply because they would be playing higher up the pitch, therefore giving us an outlet and helping us break out of defence. It would help take us off the back foot and push the opposition back a bit too.
Kane hasn't been holding the ball up at all has he and therefore we give the ball straight back to the opposition and they come at us again.
It's not amnesia. We are hardly creating a chance all game and barely having a shot on target.
I know he's trying to help, but I wish Kane would hold his ground higher up the pitch at times.We definitely need more shots on target. The nature of international football is more boring than in club football.
Our game had 6 shots on target (3 a piece), France v Portugal had 10 shots on target (5 each), Netherlands v Turkey had 8 shots on target (4 a piece) and the most entertaining game, Germany v Spain had 14 split between them.
Realistically, we’re just not going to drop Kane and there’s no guarantee it would lead to a better outcome. Based on the games without Kane before the Euros, it’s a stretch to think we’d be improved.
Having Bellingham and Foden as runners behind Kane is not a bad thing either.
Both times he ended up at LWB, he was covering someone which makes sense.I know he's trying to help, but I wish Kane would hold his ground higher up the pitch at times.
Because he's trying hard for the cause he can end up going from striker to deep midfield, to left back and then it gives us no outlet.
If he's been done for match fixing, how is he even still a referee?The referee appointed for the England/Holland game has previously been convicted of matching fixing and has had a prior run in with Bellingham.
Far from donning a tinfoil hat, but not sure that’s exactly the fairest or best decision in the world.
I agree ...If he's been done for match fixing, how is he even still a referee?
To be honest it’s fine as Germany are big rivals with both teams! Never forget Frank Rijkaard spitting on Rudi Völler…I agree ...
Zwayer [Wednesday's ref] was given a six-month ban in 2005 after he was investigated for taking a £250 bribe from official Robert Hoyzer.
Hoyzer was subsequently given a ban for life from football.
The fact they have given us an all-German officiating team is bad enough!!
Yeah, pretty much all of Europe has a problem with the Germans.To be honest it’s fine as Germany are big rivals with both teams!
If they allow the taker to pause in his run up they may as well allow keepers a few shenanigansI have noticed when it's gone to penalties the referee has allowed keepers (including Pickford ) to play up ie not go straight to their line,touching the crossbar, coming close to the kicker and intimidate them this is against the rules . Refs. have not clamped down why ?
If the takers went up and stood in front of the keeper before taking the kick the ref. would soon take action.
The keepers also seem to leave the line before the kick is taken.If they allow the taker to pause in his run up they may as well allow keepers a few shenanigans
There was a really interesting twitter thread on the psychology of England’s penalties this weekend.I have noticed when it's gone to penalties the referee has allowed keepers (including Pickford ) to play up ie not go straight to their line,touching the crossbar, coming close to the kicker and intimidate them this is against the rules . Refs. have not clamped down why ?
If the takers went up and stood in front of the keeper before taking the kick the ref. would soon take action.
Germany dont really see England as a major rival. The intensity of it in England isn’t reciprocated in Germany; the Dutch and Italians are seen as their big rivals.To be honest it’s fine as Germany are big rivals with both teams! Never forget Frank Rijkaard spitting on Rudi Völler…
How many were pens?Yea 0 goals in the group, the goal against Germany in the last 16 turned that tournament round for him.
If you go back to this forum or social media you will definitely find people being highly critical of his performances against Croatia, Scotland and the Czech
Switch from a 3-4-2-1 to a 3-4-1-2?Listening to a bit of Talksport this morning and there was a suggestion to start with Toney and Watkins to run in behind VVD and give Kane the last 20 mins .
I think that has a decent chance of happening, it was the lack of a left footed left back than hampered the back 4 system on the leftI wonder if we go back to a back 4 now Shaw is fit.
I liked Shaw when he came on. Having a LB that overlapped and got to the byline made a difference, I think it created a few dangerous attacking situations for us.I think that has a decent chance of happening, it was the lack of a left footed left back than hampered the back 4 system on the left
I thought Shaw got caught out of position a couple of times , only natural as I suppose hes rustyI wonder if we go back to a back 4 now Shaw is fit.
He was playing as the LCB as wellI thought Shaw got caught out of position a couple of times , only natural as I suppose hes rusty
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