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Frosty Wooldridge (born 1947) is a US journalist, writer, environmentalist, traveler)

By Frosty Wooldridge


For 15 years, from the mid 1970's to 1990, I worked in Detroit , Michigan . I watched it descend into the abyss of crime, debauchery, gun play, drugs, school truancy, car-jacking, gangs, and human depravity. I watched entire city blocks burned out. I watched graffiti explode on buildings, cars, trucks, buses, and school yards. Trash everywhere!


Detroiters walked through it, tossed more into it, and ignored it. Tens of thousands, and then hundreds of thousands today exist on federal welfare, free housing, and food stamps!

With Aid to Dependent Children, minority women birthed eight to 10, and in one case, one woman birthed 24 children as reported by the Detroit Free Press, all on American taxpayer dollars.

A new child meant a new car payment, new TV, and whatever mom wanted. I saw Lyndon Baines Johnson's 'Great Society' flourish in Detroit . If you give money for doing nothing, you will get more hands out taking money for doing nothing.

Mayor Coleman Young, perhaps the most corrupt mayor in America , outside of Richard Daley in Chicago , rode Detroit down to its knees... He set the benchmark for cronyism, incompetence, and arrogance. As a black man, he said, "I am the MFIC." The IC meant "in charge".


You can figure out the rest. Detroit became a majority black city with 67 percent African-Americans.

As a United Van Lines truck driver for my summer job from teaching math and science, I loaded hundreds of American families into my van for a new life in another city or state.


Detroit plummeted from 1.8 million citizens to 912,000 today. At the same time, legal and illegal immigrants converged on the city, so much so, that Muslims number over 300,000. Mexicans number 400,000 throughout Michigan , but most work in Detroit . As the whites moved out, the Muslims moved in.

As the crimes became more violent, the whites fled. Finally, unlawful Mexicans moved in at a torrid pace. Detroit suffers so much shoplifting that grocery stores no longer operate in many inner city locations. You could cut the racial tension in the air with a knife!


Detroit may be one of our best examples of multiculturalism: pure dislike, and total separation from America .

Today, you hear Muslim calls to worship over the city like a new American Baghdad with hundreds of Islamic mosques in Michigan , paid for by Saudi Arabia oil money. High school flunk out rates reached 76 percent last June, according to NBC's Brian Williams. Classrooms resemble more foreign countries than America . English? Few speak it! The city features a 50 percent illiteracy rate and growing.


Unemployment hit 28.9 percent in 2009 as the auto industry vacated the city. In Time Magazine's October 4, 2009, "The Tragedy of Detroit: How a great city fell, and how it can rise again," I choked on the writer's description of what happened. "If Detroit had been ravaged by a hurricane, and submerged by a ravenous flood, we'd know a lot more about it," said Daniel Okrent. "If drought and carelessness had spread brush fires across the city, we'd see it on the evening news every night."

Earthquake, tornadoes, you name it, if natural disaster had devastated the city that was once the living proof of American prosperity, the rest of the country might take notice.

But Detroit , once our fourth largest city, now 11th, and slipping rapidly, has had no such luck. Its disaster has long been a slow unwinding that seemed to remove it from the rest of the country.

Even the death rattle that in the past year emanated from its signature industry brought m ore attention to the auto executives than to the people of the city, who had for so long been victimized by their dreadful decision making."

As Coleman Young's corruption brought the city to its knees, no amount of federal dollars could save the incredible payoffs, kick backs, and illegality permeating his administration. I witnessed the city's death from the seat of my 18-wheeler tractor trailer because I moved people out of every sector of decaying Detroit .

"By any quantifiable standard, the city is on life support. Detroit 's treasury is $300 million short of the funds needed to provide the barest municipal services," Okrent said. "The school system, which six years ago was compelled by the teachers' union to reject a philanthropist's offer of $200 million to build 15 small, independent charter high schools, is in receivership. The murder rate is soaring, and 7 out of 10 remain unsolved. Three years after Katrina devastated New Orleans , unemployment in that city hit a peak of 11%. In Detroit , the unemployment rate is 28.9%.

That's worth spelling out: twenty-eight point nine percent." At the end of Okrent's report, and he will write a dozen more about Detroit, he said, "That's because the story of Detroit is not simply one of a great city's collapse, it's also about the erosion of the industries that helped build the country we know today. The ultimate fate of Detroit will reveal much about the character of America in the 21st century. If what was once the most prosperous manufacturing city in the nation has been brought to its knees, what does that say about our recent past? And if it can't find a way to get up, what does that say about our future?"


As you read in my book review of Chris Steiner's book, "$20 Per Gallon", the auto industry won't come back. Immigration will keep pouring more, and more uneducated third world immigrants from the Middle East into Detroit , thus creating a beachhead for Islamic hegemony in America . If 50 percent illiteracy continues, we will see more homegrown terrorists spawned out of the Muslim ghettos of Detroit . Illiteracy plus Islam equals walking human bombs.


You have already seen it in Madrid , Spain ; London , England and Paris , France with train bombings, subway bombings and riots. As their numbers grow, so will their power to enact their barbaric Sharia Law that negates republican forms of government, first amendment rights, and subjugates women to the lowest rungs on the human ladder. We will see more honor killings by upset husbands, fathers, and brothers that demand subjugation by their daughters, sisters and wives. Muslims prefer beheadings of women to scare the hell out of any other members of their sect from straying. Multiculturalism: what a perfect method to kill our language, culture, country, and way of life.


I PRAY EVERYONE THAT READS THIS REALIZES THAT IF WE DON'T STAND UP, AND SCREAM AT WASHINGTON , AND OUR STATE, CITY, AND LOCAL LEADERS THIS IS WHAT AWAITS THE REST OF AMERICA . IF YOU FOLLOW THE NEWS AT ALL YOU KNOW THIS HAS HAPPENED IN ENGLAND , AND FRANCE AND SPAIN ..

IF YOU THINK THIS IS JUST A BUNCH OF HOOEY AND YOU FEEL NO DUTY TO FIGHT FOR THIS COUNTRY, THEN I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WILL TAKE FOR YOU TO STAND AND FIGHT.


"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin
 

rob9872

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Not really sure what the point of this is?

Are you intending to stir up some racist hatred on the forum or just inform us that Detroit houses lots of immigrants? I'm not really sure this is the right board for it.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that race issues shouldn't be discussed and anyone who thinks the current immigration levels to the uk are fine, is burying their head in the sand, but if you thuink the article above is representative of here then I think it's way off the mark.
 

rob9872

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Actually I've re-read teh article and I think that's probably a little unfair of me.

There are certain parallels, in that there are areas where immigration is higher than in other parts even within a City.

I don't like to spout Nick Griffin because he is such a vile specimen, but the one racist remark which hit home with me was that it's "not immigration but colonisation". Now he was talking in general, but if you think about it in terms of even this City and an area like Fosehill or particularly some areas in places like Bradford that are completely unsafe for white people to go (particularly after dark) then there is a point to it.

It's a difficult one, because you can understand why someone would want to join that community where they feel safer, but at the same time it doesn't encourage us all to get along and integrate and only serves to separate.
 

Nick

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Hopefully this thread won't go into a race hate type thread as I am pretty sure there are Coventry fans of all race so hopefully nobody will be offended (if you are just press the report button).

I think some communities don't want to integrate with the rest of the country, like Rob says if you take a look at Foleshill Road, Hillfield (by the casino), Stoney Stanton Road then it does make people feel uncomfortable walking through there on their own being the odd one out. When you look at religion based schools (any religion, not just Muslim) it makes you wonder why all schools aren't just mixed so that young white people can see what Muslims are all about and have Muslim friends without thinking that anybody with a beard is a bomber.

I don't understand why people from other countries want to come here and force their law, surely they would just stay in their country where their own law applies? It would be like me going to the far east and stealing and then moaning when my hands get cut off or smuggling drugs and wonder why I am facing death for it. It is about adapting to the country where you live, imagine if somebody from here went to a Muslim country and starting shouting about being Jewish, they would probably end up killed.

The other thing is that charity should always start at home, aren't we giving millions to Pakistan for their schools when we are having cuts here?

Like I said, I don't hold grudges against any race as you can be a dickhead no matter what colour your skin is (although the Jehovahs do annoy me, get the hint as I have been nice. I don't want to read Watchtower)
 

rob9872

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I have no problem giving a few million to pakistan - that's only a fraction of what the benefit system costs us to scroungers every week and probably a mornings work for our defence budget. Everyone should have the right to a better life, but people should work for it if they can.

With regards to people wanting to come here, I can understand people wanting the fredom that the UK offers, we are fortunate that we were born here and not facing hardship, the biggest problem is that we are a small island and we are running at full capacity.
 

Nick

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I still do thing charity begins at home though. You see schools closing here because of cuts but we can hand out millions to overseas for their schools?

I guess we do have the freedom here that people don't get abroad but I think it is a little bit about is being soft too?
 

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