Wages ? (1 Viewer)

rupert_bear · Jun 14, 2015

Get lots of comment on here when linked with possible signings about wages being too high. What is the average wage of a decent division 1 player and who would be our highest earner ? and on how much. ? How would our wage scale here compare with lets say Walsall for example.

tom88 · Jun 14, 2015

The average salary in League One is between £1.700 and £2.500

http://www.onaverage.co.uk/money-averages/80-average-premier-league-salary

Not sure how up to date it is but we could work it out by dividing £2.5m over 25 man squad

rupert_bear · Jun 14, 2015

Which is about £100000 a year, but then there are the wages of the managerial staff, coaches etc and youth players. Suppose it all depends on the budget which the popular theory seems to be £2.5 million

Grendel · Jun 14, 2015

rupert_bear said:
Get lots of comment on here when linked with possible signings about wages being too high. What is the average wage of a decent division 1 player and who would be our highest earner ? and on how much. ? How would our wage scale here compare with lets say Walsall for example.

Yeovil famously had a budget of £700,000 when gaining promotion apparently.

The budget also is just that so may not be actually used 100% it's a maximum.

Highest paid probably will be someone coming in on around £3,000 a week with some potential add ons.

stupot07 · Jun 14, 2015

I imagine our highest earners would have been reda, nouble, tudguy, o'brien, etc - £3-3.5k pw would be my guess.

We will pay more than than Walsall. We have been told we had a top 8 player budget (£2.6m). I did have a guess at last year's wage bill I'll try and find it.

Found it:

stupot07 said:
Well I've just had a bash/guesstimate of possible wages - average of £1,715 over 29 players (£2.56m / £2.9m with NI contribution) League one average is £1.5k pw so not far off that.

£3k PW (£177.5k pa with NI)
Pugh, webster, johnson, swanson, o'brien, Nouble, Tudguy

£2.5k pw (£148k pa with NI)
Fleck, jackson

£2k pw (£118k pa with NI)
Jones, martin, Pennington, thomas, barton, madine, Miller

£1k pw (£59k pa with NI)
Burge, Reece-cook, willis, phillips, haynes,

£750 pw (£44k)
Maddison

£500pw (£29.6k)
Richards, harris, kelly-evans, kelly-evans, finch, thomas, spence

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JulianDarbyFTW · Jun 14, 2015

This is why loans are so important, especially if the parent club contibutes a significant percentage of wages. Means more perm signings on better wages, which theoretically means better players.

Huckerby · Jun 14, 2015

Not that it matters at all, but wonder if they actually get paid weekly

rupert_bear · Jun 14, 2015

Then we have the possible emergence of home grown players, such as Maddison as an example. If they become a big hit as Callum Wilson did they will want higher wages, which in turns makes them more likely to be sold on early and probably below value. Which is why we need to get out of the division into the championship, but should we do that the whole squad will want a rise. Football finance is a nightmare in reality.

rupert_bear · Jun 14, 2015

Huckerby said:
Not that it matters at all, but wonder if they actually get paid weekly

Think it will be monthly but wages at all levels seem to be always quoted weekly.

Terry Gibson's perm · Jun 14, 2015

rupert_bear said:
Think it will be monthly but wages at all levels seem to be always quoted weekly.

Is that because it sounds much less weekly as you would think wow Rooney is getting a million a month were as 250k per week doesn't seem as crazy.

robbiethemole · Jun 14, 2015

do they get paid for the whole 52 weeks or just for the season?? cos average of £2,500 x 52 =£130k x 22 man squad =£2.86m is that about where we are.I know some of the younger guys wont be on that figure so that brings it in line with c£2m pa

Hobo · Jun 14, 2015

I wouldn't get out of bed for that!

I would be at home in bed rolling in the money!

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Jun 14, 2015

robbiethemole said:
do they get paid for the whole 52 weeks or just for the season?? cos average of £2,500 x 52 =£130k x 22 man squad =£2.86m is that about where we are.I know some of the younger guys wont be on that figure so that brings it in line with c£2m pa

Yea I'd say that is about right, some of our players will be on 3k+ and some of them will be on less than 2k.

A team like Walsall/Crewe there very top earners are probably around 1.5-2k

skybluetony176 · Jun 14, 2015

Well one thing for sure. It's a good job most of our players weren't paid based on performance. Most of them would have had to gone out and get proper job's if they were.

JulianDarbyFTW · Jun 14, 2015

http://metro.co.uk/2007/10/31/liverpool-star-fumes-as-payslip-turns-up-on-web-419011/

From 8 years ago, but suggests it's paid monthly.

Huckerby · Jun 14, 2015

JulianDarbyFTW said:
http://metro.co.uk/2007/10/31/liverpool-star-fumes-as-payslip-turns-up-on-web-419011/

From 8 years ago, but suggests it's paid monthly.

yeh saw this one for tevez

http://cdn.caughtoffside.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Tevez-payslip.jpg

they pay a hell of a lot of tax tbf

ccfc92 · Jun 14, 2015

Terry Gibson's perm said:
Is that because it sounds much less weekly as you would think wow Rooney is getting a million a month were as 250k per week doesn't seem as crazy.

Now actually digest what you just wrote, still crazy :laugh:

chiefdave · Jun 14, 2015

Huckerby said:
yeh saw this one for tevez

http://cdn.caughtoffside.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Tevez-payslip.jpg

they pay a hell of a lot of tax tbf

FA fine £24, bet he was gutted at that.

Huckerby · Jun 14, 2015

chiefdave said:
FA fine £24, bet he was gutted at that.

Yeh fuming!

Terry Gibson's perm · Jun 14, 2015

We should have a whip around to help him pay it:thinking about:

ccfc92 · Jun 14, 2015

chiefdave said:
FA fine £24, bet he was gutted at that.

That's what sunday league players get fined for a sending off pretty much...

To be fair though, look at the amount of tax he's paying, glad to see that going into our economy rather than offshore accounts.

Huckerby · Jun 14, 2015

ccfc92 said:
That's what sunday league players get fined for a sending off pretty much...

To be fair though, look at the amount of tax he's paying, glad to see that going into our economy rather than offshore accounts.

exactly. that's what a lot of people don't realise when they slate the banking system too....12% of our total tax revenues comes from financial services...

ccfc92 · Jun 14, 2015

Huckerby said:
exactly. that's what a lot of people don't realise when they slate the banking system too....12% of our total tax revenues comes from financial services...

It is easy to say: "oh them benefit scroungers"

But the big corporations evading tax are the biggest culprits of short changing the country's economy.

shmmeee · Jun 15, 2015

Huckerby said:
exactly. that's what a lot of people don't realise when they slate the banking system too....12% of our total tax revenues comes from financial services...

That'd be the financial services that have cost the country trillions? Excuse me if I don't attend the celebration.

This country's entire problem is how much we rely on financial services at the expense of the real economy. It's not a good thing that they make up so much. It's one of the main reasons our economic recovery has been so poor since the crash.

It's like the nonsense argument about top rate tax payers paying 27% of income tax or whatever. THATS BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALL THE MONEY!!

If we gave one guy all the countries income he'd pay 100% of the tax. It doesn't mean the tax system is unfair to them does it?

shmmeee · Jun 15, 2015

ccfc92 said:
It is easy to say: "oh them benefit scroungers"

But the big corporations evading tax are the biggest culprits of short changing the country's economy.

Forget evading tax, the billions they get in working tax credits and housing benefit alone to top up poverty wages is a disgrace. Socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor.

Huckerby · Jun 15, 2015

shmmeee said:
That'd be the financial services that have cost the country trillions? Excuse me if I don't attend the celebration.

This country's entire problem is how much we rely on financial services at the expense of the real economy. It's not a good thing that they make up so much. It's one of the main reasons our economic recovery has been so poor since the crash.

It's like the nonsense argument about top rate tax payers paying 27% of income tax or whatever. THATS BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALL THE MONEY!!

If we gave one guy all the countries income he'd pay 100% of the tax. It doesn't mean the tax system is unfair to them does it?

Conscious that we're taking the thread off track here but oh well.

Erm think you're being a bit toppy there with your "trillions", but yeh, its the same sector that's probably cost £750bn give or take (mostly take, as a lot of it is loans).
Now work that back at 12% of tax revenue over the last 30 years and see if we have come out on top....
It's one of the main reasons that our economic recovery has been so poor? What are you benchmarking "recovery" against...against the economy as it were which was propped up by this sector?

On your tax statement - top rate tax payers might have higher salaries because they worked their arse off to get there? Yet they should forfeit more of their money because they worked harder than others? Sounds legit...

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