Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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I think you will find that this is what Mr Labovich and his boss think
What we do seem to know was that the offer was made to someone. This should have been Sisu's perfect opportunity to to show that they care about the football club and its fans. Sisu should have called ACL/CCC bluff when they (or Otium or whatever else they want to be called this week) and said for the sake of the football club let us have that deal at 150k per annum with access to revenue streams. So what if there was a ten year tie in clause, as I have said before Joy used Shrewsbury as an example and that took at least 8 years so ten years wouldn't have been to much of a bind. Think of the potential money they could have been making for themselves and the club with our current form if we would have been at the Ricoh with those terms. If ACL/CCC turned round and said no then it would have been open season on them. If they are the sharp business minded people they should have at least asked if the offer was open to them. The fact that they didn't just shows their hand even more.
I think you will find that this is what Mr Labovich and his boss think
That still doesn't clarify whether the offer was on the table and offered to Otium post CVA.
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what would have exposed it further would have been a direct offer to Otium. Instead they only offered it to the admin
An offer was made. It was made prior to, and repeated during the CVA meeting. It was made to Otium. Labovitch, a director of Otium said that he was not there for Otium he was there for Holdings. Therefore he heard no offer.
What we do seem to know was that the offer was made to someone. This should have been Sisu's perfect opportunity to to show that they care about the football club and its fans. Sisu should have called ACL/CCC bluff when they (or Otium or whatever else they want to be called this week) and said for the sake of the football club let us have that deal at 150k per annum with access to revenue streams. So what if there was a ten year tie in clause, as I have said before Joy used Shrewsbury as an example and that took at least 8 years so ten years wouldn't have been to much of a bind. Think of the potential money they could have been making for themselves and the club with our current form if we would have been at the Ricoh with those terms. If ACL/CCC turned round and said no then it would have been open season on them. If they are the sharp business minded people they should have at least asked if the offer was open to them. The fact that they didn't just shows their hand even more.
I don't see why the offer needed to be offered twice. ML was aware, that's all that's needed isn't it?
Surely by now we know thier hand, what would have exposed it further would have been a direct offer to Otium. Instead they only offered it to the admin and handed SISU yet another excuse not to deal.
I don't see why the offer needed to be offered twice. ML was aware, that's all that's needed isn't it?
If I was responsible for acquiring property for Tesco and was offered site 'A' on Monday but then changed my job and took up the same role with Sainsburys on the Tuesday I know what my first phone call would be for my new employer.
I don't see why the offer needed to be offered twice. ML was aware, that's all that's needed isn't it?
If I was responsible for acquiring property for Tesco and was offered site 'A' on Monday but then changed my job and took up the same role with Sainsburys on the Tuesday I know what my first phone call would be for my new employer.
Exactly, people are making this out to be way more complicated than it actually is. An offer was on the table, unless ACL have specifically revoked the offer as the other party involved, or any other party interested, you would assume the same offer to be available until told otherwise. I can't believe anyone can seriously think that Otium would quite happily come back under the £150K deal but are all sat around totally unaware the offer was ever made.
Or if Otium have ever asked ACL for the rent deal. Once they were made aware by their partner about the offer put on the table that he states could not say yes or no to (or actually even hear fir that matter if fact) Or did they stick to their leader's stance. Ownership only.
But it's still not clear whether the offer was valid post CVA.
Otium could have asked and ACL could've offered. Clearly both at fault, if the offer was still valid outside the CVA.
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Exactly, people are making this out to be way more complicated than it actually is. An offer was on the table, unless ACL have specifically revoked the offer as the other party involved, or any other party interested, you would assume the same offer to be available until told otherwise. I can't believe anyone can seriously think that Otium would quite happily come back under the £150K deal but are all sat around totally unaware the offer was ever made.
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You certainly try your best to share some of the blame with CCC when you know it is the fault of SISU
But it's still not clear whether the offer was valid post CVA.
Otium could have asked and ACL could've offered. Clearly both at fault, if the offer was still valid outside the CVA.
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Exactly, people are making this out to be way more complicated than it actually is. An offer was on the table, unless ACL have specifically revoked the offer as the other party involved, or any other party interested, you would assume the same offer to be available until told otherwise. I can't believe anyone can seriously think that Otium would quite happily come back under the £150K deal but are all sat around totally unaware the offer was ever made.
Or to put it simply
You: CJ do you want to rent my house?
Me: Saw it advertised Dave, fully aware of the price.
You: Deal CJ?
Me: Nah thanks Dave. Come and find me again tomorrow because I want you to tell me again and I'll forget everything by then.
Your reply?
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You certainly try your best to share some of the blame with CCC when you know it is the fault of SISU
Funny, estate agents, letting agents, car salesman, etc, tend to follow up offers.Or to put it simply
You: CJ do you want to rent my house?
Me: Saw it advertised Dave, fully aware of the price.
You: Deal CJ?
Me: Nah thanks Dave. Come and find me again tomorrow because I want you to tell me again and I'll forget everything by then.
Your reply?
An offer was made. It was made prior to, and repeated during the CVA meeting. It was made to Otium. Labovitch, a director of Otium said that he was not there for Otium he was there for Holdings. Therefore he heard no offer. It then becomes a philosophical question doesn't it? The man, Labovitch, was there. Labovitch was there for Holdings. As the offer was not to Holdings but to Otium he could not hear it. As a man he could hear it, but as a director of Otium he could not hear it, so it was not made....
Isn't it refreshing that, for once, our Politicians don't behave like Estate agents, letting agents and Car salesmen?Funny, estate agents, letting agents, car salesman, etc, tend to follow up offers.
Car salesman: so would you like to buy this car, it's a good offer.
Me: it's a good price.
Car salesman: deal?
Me: sorry it's for the wife, so cant do a deal today.
Next day phone rings....
Hi, it's Peter from the garage. Wondered if you have spoken to the wife, and whether she'd like to come down for a test drive
Oh behave! The offer was made and declined in a very specific and particular legal environment, that being the case, could it not have been offered directly to Otium, away from that environment at a later time? Please tell me why it was not?
Funny, estate agents, letting agents, car salesman, etc, tend to follow up offers.
Car salesman: so would you like to buy this car, it's a good offer.
Me: it's a good price.
Car salesman: deal?
Me: sorry it's for the wife, so cant do a deal today.
Next day phone rings....
Hi, it's Peter from the garage. Wondered if you have spoken to the wife, and whether she'd like to come down for a test drive
Even you only got 4 "likes" for that one.
Even you only got 4 "likes" for that one.
So ACL could not have made the exact same offer the following day, away from that environment, directly to Otium? Care to answer?
It was an offer SISU did not want. The fact that it was offered only to he admin played into thier hands.
can't you read PKWH said the offer was made to otium prior which means before the admin and again during the meeting it was refused both times
Bluefint surely you know what answer you are going to get ........
"ML was legally there for holdings not otium so could not accept the offer" .......... yes but ML was there. He also has ears. If they were interested they would have chased it up. I really dont see why people think ACL should do the running around?!
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