Nick
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Wait, people can't mention something the council tried to go but didn't go through but you are then trying to say about stuff that hasn't happened at all?
The "it woz sisu" defence for the council doesn't work any more.
Wait, people can't mention something the council tried to go but didn't go through but you are then trying to say about stuff that hasn't happened at all?Indeed.
Meanwhile the actual people actually responsible for our club have failed again to make a serious attempt to buy the ground, and look likely to break up the best squad in decades to pay the tax bill while refusing to sell us.
Indeed.
Meanwhile the actual people actually responsible for our club have failed again to make a serious attempt to buy the ground, and look likely to break up the best squad in decades to pay the tax bill while refusing to sell us.
Do you think the council can spend £30m with no democratic oversight?
Wait, people can't mention something the council tried to go but didn't go through but you are then trying to say about stuff that hasn't happened at all?
The "it woz sisu" defence for the council doesn't work any more.
....at which point they were trying to push through NEC as preferred bidder...Where have I claimed anything other that DB and JVS contacted him at the time of Admin?
Well they bought a private loan, sold a building they’d spent £10 million on for £5.6 million to a company that had a catastrophic credit rating and then gave them a long lease to borrow three times the original loan on a fictitious lease value
So I’ve no idea - seems they can do anything with zero accountability
Here, here.I've said pretty openly what I was told about SISU's intentions and plans to only go in for the lowest possible price. As the chant goes
Fuck the Wasps
Fuck SISU
Fuck the Council
I don't like any of them and don't really want any of them involved with the club anymore. Which is why like most I'm hoping against hope that Big Mike does the business
Oh yeah it was the defence the weird trust accounts used too.It was a line you often heard on the Wasps forums when you brought up any criticism of them or the Council. The assumption being that if you're talking badly of them you think SISU are blameless.
Sod the lot of them
Where have I claimed anything other that DB and JVS contacted him at the time of Admin?
So again, I’m not sure what you wanted to be done differently. Are Reeves and Duggins slippery cunts? Sure. Same as Ridley and Gilbert are trying desperately to turn this into Watergate for their own reasons.
The bottom line is that Gilbert suggested there was to be a meeting of the Labour group to discuss a possible bail out of Wasps. Cue outrage. Cue backtracking and Duggins unequivocably stating to Nick and Gilbert no such discussion was in the pipeline.
All went quiet. Then The Times disclosed there had in fact been a Wasps Board vote on a proposal for the City Council to match fund a bailout to the tune of £30 million of citizens’ money. So now, found out, Reeves is desperately searching for a form of words to wriggle out of the fact that discussions did take place and subsequent denials were lies. Otherwise what exactly were the Wasps Board voting on? Apparently had Richardson agreed it would have gone ahead.
Have stayed out of this waiting to see what happens but the way Reeves only talks about the club as tenants makes me conclude the Council are about to shaft the club again.
Maybe, and I can go along with some of it, but if we break this down...I think to be honest the way they’ve bent over backwards to help and support Wasps while flipping off the football club for nearly a good 20 years is what eliminates any goodwill.
That’s not been said anywhereAnd because there was a clear line that the council wouldn’t provide funding.
The answer you’re searching for it “No shmmeee, of course they can’t because I have the first clue how council expenditure works”
Council vote unanimously on sale of Coventry's Ricoh Arena
Councillors supported a deal to sell the Council’s share in ACL – the company that runs the Ricoh Arena - to Wasps Rugby Club. The deal ensures the Council makes a return on its original investment of £13.7million into the Arena development alongside significant investment into grassroots and...www.itv.com
Maybe, and I can go along with some of it, but if we break this down...
Reeves has personal investment in making sure the Wasps project succeeds.
Duggins as part of the old guard, maybe so, although he wasn't as involved as Lucas, Mutton etc. Nor even Kevin Maton... he is also maybe slightly stupid, but he's been around the block enough to know the prevailing wind, and he knows full well that the newer Labour memebrs wouldn't support a bailout of Wasps. Therefore, it is a no-goer. Want to find out? Maybe those who emailed their councillors about any potential meeting should ask for their views on current issues...
tbh my main issue is the indiscriminate term of 'council' as though it's some sinister entity that moves by itself and there's no control anywhere. It'd be a bit like suggesting Robins worships at the SISU temple reallyMaybe, when times were good, there was a small (very small!) hope of £30mil going through for this, but I doubt that tbh. I can accept it's initial exploratory talks between somebody personally invested and people financially invested... to scope out if there was anything to be done, and how to sell it to the goon who leads the local authority. But in a cost of living crisis when budgets are about to go tits up...? It's a no-goer. Even if Duggins wanked himself furiously over it, it'd still be a no-goer and would spell the end of his career at the top end of it all if he tried to push it too far.
Wasn't that the week before around Wednesday / Thursday....at which point they were trying to push through NEC as preferred bidder...
That’s not been said anywhere
But that’s bollocks. It’s not the case and you never acknowledge the fact the lease was only extended at a point to alloe a business to hawk money against.
The council received £2.8 million for its share and then another £1 million for a lease extension
You can’t seriously claim the surrendering of a loan they’d purchased “to make a small profit for the taxpayer” which they’d purchased with taxpayer money is then used to justify the sale to a company with a catastrophic credit rating
Oh hold on you just have
Fucking hell, we've done chocolate. Are we on to rubbish 80's American soap operas now?You don’t know do you?
This is the JR and it’s “smoking gun” all over again.
Fucking hell, we've done chocolate. Are we on to rubbish 80's American soap operas now?
I can't keep up.
Sorry having trouble translating is that “yes shmmeee I was wrong about the council spending millions without democratic oversight”?
Lionel looks happy - is that Tim Kalns at the back
So there was an open free vote by Lucas then and it was part of their pledge to the electorate?
Sorry that can’t be true if the times article is true and vice versa.2:15 of the Reeves interview: “the polticial leadership were very very clear there was to be no bailouts”
Sorry that can’t be true if the times article is true and vice versa.
Wasn't it only labour that approved Tom white but in another secret meeting?The question, because you’re desperately trying to run as far as possible from it was “do you think the council can spend £30m with no democratic oversight”
Nick brought up TWW, you brought up the sale of the arena. Both passed a vote of full council so had democratic oversight.
I accept your apology.
It does in this situation - SISU didn’t even render a bid when everyone else wasIt's not 2014 anymore. The "But Sisu" argument doesn't work. Everyone knows they're shit. Doesn't change the fact the City Council are fucking the club...again.
Wasn't it only labour that approved Tom white but in another secret meeting?
It's not 2014 anymore. The "But Sisu" argument doesn't work. Everyone knows they're shit. Doesn't change the fact the City Council are fucking the club...again.
The question, because you’re desperately trying to run as far as possible from it was “do you think the council can spend £30m with no democratic oversight”
Nick brought up TWW, you brought up the sale of the arena. Both passed a vote of full council so had democratic oversight.
I accept your apology.
Richardson was blamed for not allowing it to advanceWhy?
BobBrollyoaksNo rubbish 2010s Coventry soap operas
With respect you change the question every five minutes
You told me I lacked an education as I didn’t understand the council could not be involved in the sale at all
how’s that one holding up?
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