Facebook and Twitter is full of people hoping London Wasps don't cave in because they think that the EFL will take the golden share away from Sisu and give it to someone else at the last minute. They're deluded.It's the same when people say "Why don't the EFL do something?" without realising the lines that the EFL will be given.
Bollocks, lack of revenue generation opportunities linked to being tenants to London Wasps will restrict City's ability to compete long after Sisu have gone.
Wasps didn't create that situation. We were always tenants. They bought something that was for sale which the club had plenty of time to buy if they were serious.
Their presence in the City and their ownership of the stadium is not the biggest barrier to us being successful. People are not apathetic towards the club because of Wasps.
Well I support Bath Rugby, so I wasn't going turn 'em down!i could have got upto 4 tickets free but couldnt be arsed
Congratulations, you've just made the most mental post of the day and there's some serious competition.Coventry Rugby are only improving on and off the pitch since Wasps arrived. In a higher league and breaking attendance records. Stand to be corrected, but the overall effect on rugby in the area seems to have been really positive.
Another one that's been inactive for years that desperately wants London Wasps to look like the good guy, they're not even trying.Congratulations, you've just made the most mental post of the day and there's some serious competition.
That's bullshit. You tried callin me racist the other week too! Why do you get off on this?! He' opening he statement with an admission, you claimed he opened it with a defensive quote! You're a good bloke, but this rascit bullshit aint working for me!Hmmm, 'Let me start by saying I absolutely hate Wasps' does come across a bit like 'I'm not racist, but...'
Wasps didn't create that situation. We were always tenants. They bought something that was for sale which the club had plenty of time to buy if they were serious.
Their presence in the City and their ownership of the stadium is not the biggest barrier to us being successful. People are not apathetic towards the club because of Wasps.
I was thinking about this a few days ago and in my own head I realised that we were lucky that it was a Rugby club buying the stadium, if it had been another Football club then we may have disappeared by now. At the time ccc/higgs jumped at the wasps offer compared to the Sisu one so i assume they would have taken anybodies higher offer and it could well have been a football club
Another one that's been inactive for years that desperately wants London Wasps to look like the good guy, they're not even trying.
Congratulations, you've just made the most mental post of the day and there's some serious competition.
I said I stand to be corrected, so point out what's inacurrate in my post. The grassroots community stuff isn't up for debate, though. I volunteer at a rugby club and have see enough first hand to know the effect their presence is having.
Tell yourself whatever you need to. What I desperately want is my football club functioning in a way that means my kids can fall in love with them and grow up supporting them the same as I did.
I didn't say the improvement was due to Wasps moving here. I pointed out that there's nothing proving they've had a negative impact on CRFC.Maybe you can point out how CRFC have improved due to Wasps and not due to a decent owner that cares and the team etc?
I didn't say the improvement was due to Wasps moving here. I pointed out that there's nothing proving they've had a negative impact on CRFC.
Coventry Rugby are only improving on and off the pitch since Wasps arrived. In a higher league and breaking attendance records.
Are you mad? That's like saying if Man City started playing at the Ricoh it wouldn't have a negative impact of CCFC.I didn't say the improvement was due to Wasps moving here. I pointed out that there's nothing proving they've had a negative impact on CRFC.
When you ask someone to name Coventry's Rugby Club they will undoubtedly say "Wasps" or worse "Coventry Wasps". Before they moved here the answer to that would have been "Coventry". This might be a minor point to some but I personally think this has had a negative impact on CRFC.I didn't say the improvement was due to Wasps moving here. I pointed out that there's nothing proving they've had a negative impact on CRFC.
Careful next they will be accusing you of wanting the Club to die or having multiple accounts just because you won't tow the line on here.
Fuck um all Sisu Out .
When you ask someone to name Coventry's Rugby Club they will undoubtedly say "Wasps" or worse "Coventry Wasps". Before they moved here the answer to that would have been "Coventry". This might be a minor point to some but I personally think this has had a negative impact on CRFC.
I was coming back from Cov’s away game at Richmond in October and pub by Euston packed with CCFC fans on way back from Charlton away, asked a 3 blokes how we played etc, was asked what I’d been doing I replied “been to Richmond to watch Cov Rugby” all 3 responded “Wasps!?”
We will see.
CCFC exist as a bargaining chip, once that’s gone things get worse for both sides
The very thing that put us in this situation will keep us there until legals are done IMHO
No, it's not.That's like saying if Man City started playing at the Ricoh it wouldn't have a negative impact of CCFC.
chiefdave said:They're going after the same fans.
chiefdave said:All those kids who don't already go to games have a choice between watching top level rugby at the Ricoh for free or watching second tier rugby at the Butts, what do you think the most popular option will be?
chiefdave said:In North American sport where franchising is the norm they talk about a team new to the area needing 25 years to settle in and 50 years to become established. Turning round after Wasps have been here 4 years and saying there's no negatives is crazy.
More made up bullshitYou will find that is usually when people have said they want the club to die or use multiple accounts, strangely enough.
Don't think you "tow the line" as you put it and don't think either has been said to you, has it? More made up bullshit.
It has also helped them get better crowds believe they had the biggest crowds last couple of seasons for the word tier.Positive of wasps has been maybe it’s galvinised Cov Rugby to put all the plans into reality and not be pushed into the shadows off the pitch.
I like the fact the club haven’t been ‘welcoming’ of Wasps.
Also the on pitch stuff is down to Rowland Winter being appointed head coach in 2016 him and his coaching staff have taken Cov from 3rd tier plodders, win 6 in a row lose 6 in a row to a side that are holding their own in the 2nd tier and aim for the Premiership.
Who by? Certainly not me. I'll be happy to correct that also!More made up bullshit
Ah thats the other one you like to use.
And yes I was accused of wanting the club to die along with my brother who between us have had season tickets for over 70 years and still have.
I don't get how CCFC take fans for suckers with a poor experience!? Do you mean shit football? Or the whole day "fan zone" thing like the w***s have? Because football and rugby are completely different and can't be compared for "match day experience" and if CCFC ever started running match days like w***s do (like the Accrington game) as more than a once a season thing, it'd be the day it'd lose me as a fan. The atmosphere at w***s matches are dreadful (never been but everybody I know who has says it's shit) as was the atmoshepre at the Accrington game. If you want to sit not singing, eating popcorn and acting proper, go and watch w***s. The edgy atmosphere is what makes football so special. So tribal.Coventry Rugby are only improving on and off the pitch since Wasps arrived. In a higher league and breaking attendance records. Stand to be corrected, but the overall effect on rugby in the area seems to have been really positive.
The issue that Wasps' move has caused the football club isn't the stadium ownership etc., it's that casual sports fans are being offered a better social thing or family day out than the City.
The way they run match days and engage with the community incl. local clubs made Cov Rugby up its game in that area and they've seen the benefit of copying that approach. People have started going there that weren't going before.
The football club, like most football clubs, took its fans for suckers for decades assuming they'd keep turning up irrespective of the quality of the experience. Now that an alternative is on offer at the same location, they're playing catch up.
I understand the urge to blame Wasps for the mess we're in but it's just using them as a scapegoat. It's like the argument people make about big clubs 'deserving' to be in higher divisions; it's sh*te. You are where you deserve to be and the club did this to itself.
Don't misconstrue this as criticism of the fan base, die hards, casuals or stay aways. I'm just of the opinion that if you blame someone or something else you miss what you're doing wrong and don't deal with the root cause.
Its a load of bollocks and lazy comment. It's the sort of nonsense Italia used to come out with.I don't get how CCFC take fans for suckers with a poor experience!? Do you mean shit football? Or the whole day "fan zone" thing like the w***s have? Because football and rugby are completely different and can't be compared for "match day experience" and if CCFC ever started running match days like w***s do (like the Accrington game) as more than a once a season thing, it'd be the day it'd lose me as a fan. The atmosphere at w***s matches are dreadful (never been but everybody I know who has says it's shit) as was the atmoshepre at the Accrington game. If you want to sit not singing, eating popcorn and acting proper, go and watch w***s. The edgy atmosphere is what makes football so special. So tribal.
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Coventry City in the third tier with ambitions to be higher, Man Utd in the top tier playing European football.No, it's not.
WTF, you are seriously trying to tell me Wasps aren't trying to attract rugby fans who live in Coventry and the surrounding area???No, they're not. The area (CV and B'ham) is a rugby area but since 1995 there's not been a top flight side. Demand is there. Folks don't have to travel to Leicester or Northampton for a game of top flight rugby anymore.
That is exactly the point. New team and people get 'shiny new thing' syndrome and turn up in numbers, sustaining it and embedding in the community takes decades.Explain Atlanta in the MLS while you're at it - 50k plus each game in Year 2. Kinda kills your point.
The biggest crowds each season in the Premiership since Wasps arrived here:believe they had the biggest crowds last couple of seasons for the word tier.
You are more than welcome to point out where people are struggling...When folks can read things coherently and carry on their own point from one post to their next, let's talk. Until that day, I'm out. Will go back to lurking as this is way too much effort!
It's good for the city that Wasps are here. Blaming them for CCFC's mess is gonna get you nowhere fast. CCFC and Wasps can both be successful and both play at the Ricoh. Not complicated.
No it's not usually made up just not to your liking.Who by? Certainly not me. I'll be happy to correct that also!
I use it because funnily enough, it's usually made up.
No it's not usually made up just not to your liking.
Anyway Grendel your Alter ego accused us of wanting the club dead only a couple of weeks ago.
Just like he used to bullshit about Tony not going to the City.
Just so he could look the super fan on here get likes off the rest of you while jerking off.
Now tell me which part of that is lies?
You can't enough said.
Enough said.
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