And this is why the blame for this sorry mess always has been 50/50 between the council and Sisu , with each bullshit statement people try and point score over each other , when the truth is we are all being played , The maddest thing is in all the animosity between the party's is that they at this moment in time both need each otherYou do have to wonder what Mark Robbins makes of this. When he met Joy(feb/march?) did she mention any of this? I doubt it very much but you would expect the impact of a possible ground move to have a significant impact on any future playing budget.Even if the complaint was submitted after the Joy/ Robins meeting it was very clearly on SISU,s agenda. I,m sorry but I believe OSB is correct in his assertion that SISU never have never will care a jot about CCFC, its all about the money and anything else is collateral damage
Bingo, so the only scenario in which Wasps could be financially damaged is one where the council have been found to be in the wrong. Which is the fault of the football club how?If the EC were to rule against the council then Wasps would have to pay back the "grant" (the difference between value and sale price).
Bingo, so the only scenario in which Wasps could be financially damaged is one where the council have been found to be in the wrong. Which is the fault of the football club how?
They didExactly. The only reason for Wasps to be worried is if they know they paid under value.
MassivelyThey did
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Ud buy a footballers house for the price wasps paid for the RicohMassively
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Which is why wasps are scared as all thieves will look at is valuationUd buy a footballers house for the price wasps paid for the Ricoh
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They don’t want these investigations. Why could that be?Exactly. The only reason for Wasps to be worried is if they know they paid under value.
I am all for building our own stadium.Another one making the point that we need to be out from under London Wasps without realising it.
Of course. But still a process with the potential of a legal outcome. So no different from a pending court case. Nick I know you are not that thick.
Why? He’s being insulting and annoying. The best way to counteract a bully is to fight back. I’m having a little digI thought you were against all forms of bullying?
Ha ha ha ha ha. Where have you been. What hole have you suddenly crawled out of . Are you saying Sisu are great owners ?Bless, he thinks that would hurt me. Pete are you thick? You have been proven wrong umpteen times yet keep repeating the same thing.
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Nobody is arguing sisu are innocent but strangely some are arguing that London wasps and CCC are.Nobody in this is an innocent party and all at any given time have been and acted in a way that damages the clubs long term future.
Suddenly crawled out of? Been here a while and no I did say that so why lieHa ha ha ha ha. Where have you been. What hole have you suddenly crawled out of . Are you saying Sisu are great owners ?
Pete why did you keep asking the same shit question,? You thick twat fuck off back to the city Facebook group with the other Lego eatersHa ha ha ha ha. Where have you been. What hole have you suddenly crawled out of . Are you saying Sisu are great owners ?
The thing we’ve got to worry about is the future of our club whether the Eu say nothing to see here or not. Crazy to ask them to look into it and crazy wasps have pulled out of an agreement for us to play thereIt is different though mate. There is no court case, so no costs to Wasps to defend, and no damages can be awarded by the EC.
It's an investigation into the Council directly. it won't be adversarial or played out in a public forum. The EC will presumably ask Coventry City Council to provide all their documentation about what's gone on, and then they'll weigh it against how they feel EU law should be applied. That may differ slightly to how English courts have viewed it so far, but I wouldn't hold my breath, personally.
If they find the Council have followed the rules, as they've claimed all along, then they've got nothing to worry about.
Howeve, if the finding does go against the Council, then possibly at that point SISU try the Rnglish courts again. Then it becomes legal action in the true sense of the word.
Even then, it's not clear to me that SISU could claim damages direct from Wasps, or force them to pay the Council the true value. It's possible I suppose, but I'd have thought the easier route would be to claim directly against the Council.
Either way, it's surely got be at least a year before we get anywhere near to a decision, and much longer to get to court again. There's no reason to not do a short-term deal now whilst it plays out, but there's also no way we should offer to indemnify Wasps against possible illegal actions by the Council. That's a ridiculous request.
Wasps got a very good deal on the Ricoh, did it in secret, and were fully aware of the history between the Council and SISU. There was every possibility it would be challenged in the future, if they were worried they could either have stayed, looked elsewhere or asked the Council to indemnify them. They are not, despite all the various claims, an innocent party.
No me and my son sam sometimes dial inSky blue Pete you the Pete from cheylesmore who dials into the cwr phone in?
Only 1000 posts in 4 years. Hardly prolific are you? You a fan or what?Suddenly crawled out of? Been here a while and no I did say that so why lie
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Well SISU must have had in mind since the start that going to the EU was an option, and it may well have been their intention all along.Not sure if this has been mentioned before. But could JR1 and 2 been used for just getting evidence for this EC case ?
What a wanker that c**t is. Lives in Australia
I have a life outside of here? Is that a crime? You of these folk who still has city bed sheets in old age?Only 1000 posts in 4 years. Hardly prolific are you? You a fan or what?
You do know you or I may be right and neither of us know for definite don’t you? You must be about 12 to keep resorting to infantile name calling or you just have a small car and well let’s just say car
Looking at it this way, I'd agree. Bit like a car dealer got a uniqe model but can't shift it, so flogs it massively cheap. Head office might be pissed off and may fine the dealer under some arrangement they've made...but if the punter has simply snapped up a bargin, they wouldn't try and force the him to cough up the difference on what he should have orginally paid. A deals a deal.Not sure if any of the EC investigation will impact on Wasps. If it goes against CCC then that’s one thing but Wasps bought the Ricoh in “good faith” for the sellers asking price. From Wasps point of view I’d say whatever happens they are in the clear.
It doesn't work like that. If they find wrong doing they will either make wasps pay or return the ricoh and ACL to the pre deal stateLooking at it this way, I'd agree. Bit like a car dealer got a uniqe model but can't shift it, so flogs it massively cheap. Head office might be pissed off and may fine the dealer under some arrangement they've made...but if the punter has simply snapped up a bargin, they wouldn't try and force the him to cough up the difference on what he should have orginally paid. A deals a deal.
Does anyone recall when wasps became an ‘interested party’ as part of the JR?
I can’t remember but I’m sure it was before February. And if that’s the case surely SISU need to justify why they didn’t include them in their February movement (to the EC) as surely their case would have been like for like, just through another channel?
If it was after, then fair enough and could justify why Wasps wouldn’t have been part of that EC complaint
And if it could be proven that Wasps are not involved in the EC complaint, surely Wasps excuse for stopping the talks is not valid? And they should be challenged why they have used this as an excuse and why they continue to refuse to talk?
Likelihood is someone at the council has a hand over Wasps somehow, otherwise why would Wasps be bothered by SISU V CCC action?
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