Any statement needs to challenged by linking up the known facts (not opinion) that are already out there. It should never be taken in isolation. Have to try as best can to keep an open but enquiring mind not just accept face value
Yep that’s bang onAny statement needs to challenged by linking up the known facts (not opinion) that are already out there. It should never be taken in isolation. Have to try as best can to keep an open but enquiring mind not just accept face value or accept what is said because that is what we want to hear
I think it's only really emerged over the last couple of years for many that maybe just maybe... Sisu aren't the only twunts in all this
It seems a bit rushed. They haven't got a response for certain things CCFC has said so I am not sure they were expecting it to be said.
I can't quite figure it out yet, there will be more to come.
I hope it's like one of them ones birds put on Facebook when there boyfriend has been shagging their best mate. Screenshots the lot.
The database only shows cases where there has been a decision. I'm sure we won't have to search for news of the decision once it's been made.Morning all. I have done a search of the European Commission State Aid cases decisions database, and there is no record of any case with the keywords Ricoh, Wasps or Coventry. It may be that their search feature is absolute shite (or my ability to use it is) - i can't find entries for West Ham United, London Stadium, Olympic Park either, and i am pretty sure there was a case surrounding that.
So it may be that the Ricoh deal hasn't been referred to the EC for full investigation yet, or that no decisions have been taken.
On another note, i suspect CCC are shitting themselves that CCFC's stadium partner is Warwick Uni - that is one organisation CCC simply cannot afford to draw swords with!
That's what an expensive PR campaign for the Council, funded by the taxpayer, will do.
The CCFC statement seemed very carefully prepared whereas the Wasps one is a bit more rushed.
Which suggests that CCFC at the very least suspected they were not going to conclude negotiations and prepared statements in advance.
Wonder if the announcement of the Uni thing is part of a 'shit sandwich' - two bits of good news with a bit of crap news in the middle.
Is this guy Tom Leach new - he seems to take a more neutral stance than that wanker TurnerTelegraph tweeting articles “Coventry fans not happy with Wasps Ricoh decision”
first time I’ve seen it Levelled at them
isn't that exactly what fucking Wasps did, with the help of the Council?? two-faced wanker
Keep the faith we will be in our own stadium in 5 yrs just in time for your 70th birthdayThis is really the important part of both statements. Thousands of fans didn't go to Northampton because they could see that Sisu were using the club as a pawn. I didn't go to Northampton but did go to St Andrews as last season it seemed the club had no where else to go. One of them is lying /playing with words. If it turns out to be Sisu and a deal at the Ricoh was there to be had then what is different now to our year in Northampton?
At the age of 63 I am wondering if I will ever see my team play in my city again. I wish they would all clear off, play their games elsewhere and leave our club alone.
Isn't that what WASPs did?
Any statement needs to challenged by linking up the known facts (not opinion) that are already out there. It should never be taken in isolation. Have to try as best can to keep an open but enquiring mind not just accept face value or accept what is said because that is what we want to hear
I like your style!Is this guy Tom Leach new - he seems to take a more neutral stance than that wanker Turner
I cant see how Wasp can last without CCFCCould there be a quick reverse of decision here? Now Coventry have confirmed we are at St. Andrews could that just force the issue with enough time remaining to come up with an 11th hour deal?
Me being hopeful I know but I don’t see how we last at St. Andrews.
I can’t see how wasps can surviveI cant see how Wasp can last without CCFC
If we are out of Coventry for 5 Years (that's 5 more years) what will the state of the club be? What will our attendances be? Will Sisu will continue to stop us from going under if Robins can't sell 2 or 3 players a season?Keep the faith we will be in our own stadium in 5 yrs just in time for your 70th birthday
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I’ve got a feeling ccc will invest
They can’t carry on. Amateurs are running Wasps into the ground with no business sense at all. 12-18 months they will go into administration.Cant see how Wasp can survive unless CCC buy bonds or give them handouts.
No rugby for the last 4 months,
Drop in TV revenue,
No hotel casino conference revenue for the foreseeable future,
Losing at the moment £10m a year,
No crowds allowed when season restarts,
RFU in financial trouble,
No Christmas funfair and works parties,
No concerts,
No CCFC rent and F and B revenue on the horizon,
No stadium sponsorship deal,
No new training facility,
Bonds in freefall,
Please feel free to add more!
Its just ridiculous and totally unsustainable for them to carry on as a business. Surely the owners must be thinking of throwing in the towel sooner rather than later
I'm not sure if they only appear once settled. There is a big long list if you filter by NUTS Code Warwickshire. Most of them are LSC / SFA ESF projects where prior permission was sought.Morning all. I have done a search of the European Commission State Aid cases decisions database, and there is no record of any case with the keywords Ricoh, Wasps or Coventry. It may be that their search feature is absolute shite (or my ability to use it is) - i can't find entries for West Ham United, London Stadium, Olympic Park either, and i am pretty sure there was a case surrounding that.
So it may be that the Ricoh deal hasn't been referred to the EC for full investigation yet, or that no decisions have been taken.
On another note, i suspect CCC are shitting themselves that CCFC's stadium partner is Warwick Uni - that is one organisation CCC simply cannot afford to draw swords with!
Could there be a quick reverse of decision here? Now Coventry have confirmed we are at St. Andrews could that just force the issue with enough time remaining to come up with an 11th hour deal?
Me being hopeful I know but I don’t see how we last at St. Andrews.
The relationship is so toxic and with both sides are seemingly beyond reconciliation, I just can’t see that happening.
Wasps cannot be looking at their position and think they can last this out. Their position has been steadily getting weaker year-on-year. I took my little brother to 2-3 games (free tickets) and the attendances have dropped off a cliff.
We cannot maintain our Championship status in Birmingham beyond next season. But, we really don’t have a choice.
Mutually assured destruction for both sides.
Championship - league 1 yo yo club sounds notbut does that still stand now that Wasps have seemingly closed the door on any further negotiations... if that’s the case then turn all energies into the partnership & building something, cut 5 years to 3 maybe. I couldn’t care less about the fucking roads & congestion at this stage.
I should imagine that Wasps are now in panic mode, having relied upon an agreement with CCFC. In my opinion, SISU have played a blinder in calling Wasp's bluff. If this results in Wasps going busy and leaving the Ricoh, so much the better.
Over the past 2 or 3 years SISU have backed the club 100% and got it running efficiently and now deserve out support. Their past faults and errors are in the past and cannot be changed, so why keep banging on about the past when there is now so much positivity around the club ?
Would it be cheaper to wait for the Ricoh to become available or for us to plough ahead and build our own stadium?
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Which is completely justified. There is a lot at stake. That's the gameNot saying what sisu put out was not factual only that they carefully selected to do most good to their recital of history.
I always thought the chant was a little outdatedboth, lets get a spare stadium to go with our spare cathedral.
It's almost as if they didn't want you to say anything at all
Any statement needs to challenged by linking up the known facts (not opinion) that are already out there. It should never be taken in isolation. Have to try as best can to keep an open but enquiring mind not just accept face value or accept what is said because that is what we want to hear
An assumption CCC would do a deal with SISU if Wasps disappeared.Would it be cheaper to wait for the Ricoh to become available or for us to plough ahead and build our own stadium?
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Can someone ask all these twitter guys why they trust wasps?
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