Covstu
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Probably the fact that the deal wouldnt be a million miles off what SISU offered.....
Not sure why it's got to be debated in private. What is there to hide from the public?
Perhaps it's not the ailing business that SISU have tried to convince the courts and us it is and Wasps can see how this will contribute to their finances away from Rugby matches giving them a springboard to push their club forward. Just a shame our owners dont share that vision, we might not be where we are now if they did. We as fans should all be angry about that too and that's not something we can blame ACL, Higgs, CCC, CET or the Judge for.
Probably the fact that the deal wouldnt be a million miles off what SISU offered.....
There is nothing unusual about commercial business deals being done secretly. Can't see why everyone is banging on about that.
That said I do agree that the Council voting should be visible as it is in the public interest. The same public who voted some of the councillors in. Keeping the council vote secret is unacceptable as we the voters have a right to know how councillors voted on this issue.
Probably the fact that the deal wouldnt be a million miles off what SISU offered.....
Didn't Fisher say on our return that the only option was a new stadium as ACL had made it clear that there was no deal to be made?
Didn't Fisher say on our return that the only option was a new stadium as ACL had made it clear that there was no deal to be made?
As for Wasps - It would make no sense that they would buy 90% stake to use it for European games only, unless they see it as a cash cow and platform for bigger things down the line.
There is nothing unusual about commercial business deals being done secretly. Can't see why everyone is banging on about that.
That said I do agree that the Council voting should be visible as it is in the public interest. The same public who voted some of the councillors in. Keeping the council vote secret is unacceptable as we the voters have a right to know how councillors voted on this issue.
I believe so, in as many words, which is why they cannot remain silent over these reports.
Either 1. They are in talks or 2. They have no interest in ever parting with money to secure our long term future (I include new ground in that). 2 year plan to get promoted then ditch us?
I don't see the issue either to be honest. A lot of commercial business deals are done in private. We do need to know the basics however and how any deal would impinge on CCFC and Cov RFC.
We need to know if they form part of the deal or not. Monetary matters and degrees of percentages involved etc. could remain private until any deal was thrashed out.
I don't like the franchise idea at all in sports, but if it is going to happen then we need to lobby our local MP's and council to ensure they do the right thing for Coventry City and Cov Rugby club.
That surely has to be right at the top of CCC's priorities.
Meanwhile, we could all of course support Wasps fans from their end, as they all seem to be in unison over a permanent move here.
Now I know this may open a can of worms, but just wondering if anyone feels strongly enough on the matter of no franchising, that it would result in them boycotting City games, even if the Sky Blues and Cov rugby formed part of the deal and City remained at the Ricoh?
Is there the chance that we could disenfranchise (sorry) more fans as a result of City staying here, but Wasps also coming in?
I would be opposed to a franchise in theory, but if CCFC and Cov RFC did okay out of the deal I wouldn't be protesting to any great degree. Have to be honest here and while not wanting Wasps here, if City stayed and Cov RFC weren't badly hit by it, I just don't feel I could put in the degree of opposition I might otherwise have liked.
I agree. The only concern I have of this deal going through is the position of CCFC's future associated with the Ricoh and also Cov RFU. I would be fully against it if the fans of Cov RFU and the Wasp were up in arms and protested against it like we did with Sixfields move.
If they are not making themselves heard then how are we in a position to show them solidarity.
So far haven't seen any major protest in any of there camps.
I don't see the issue either to be honest. A lot of commercial business deals are done in private. We do need to know the basics however and how any deal would impinge on CCFC and Cov RFC.
We need to know if they form part of the deal or not. Monetary matters and degrees of percentages involved etc. could remain private until any deal was thrashed out.
I don't like the franchise idea at all in sports, but if it is going to happen then we need to lobby our local MP's and council to ensure they do the right thing for Coventry City and Cov Rugby club.
That surely has to be right at the top of CCC's priorities.
Meanwhile, we could all of course support Wasps fans from their end, as they all seem to be in unison over a permanent move here.
Now I know this may open a can of worms, but just wondering if anyone feels strongly enough on the matter of no franchising, that it would result in them boycotting City games, even if the Sky Blues and Cov rugby formed part of the deal and City remained at the Ricoh?
Is there the chance that we could disenfranchise (sorry) more fans as a result of City staying here, but Wasps also coming in?
I would be opposed to a franchise in theory, but if CCFC and Cov RFC did okay out of the deal I wouldn't be protesting to any great degree. Sorry, but I have to be honest here and while not wanting Wasps here, if City stayed and Cov RFC weren't badly hit by it, I just don't feel I could put in the degree of opposition I might otherwise have wanted.
Coventry City first, then best for Coventry and Cov rugby, then Wasps fans. Has to be that order or priority for me.
Maybe like us, they are waiting to find out more about the deal and what exactly is propsed.
It seems to do a decent amount of business and seems to be improving. With the station in the pipeline its not too much of a stretch that someone would see it as a decent investment and if they do then buying at a time where there is uncertainly with the status of us playing there and the JR appeal could mean they can get a better than usual price. Would be somewhat ironic if SISU's campaign of distressing ACL ended up with someone else buying it on the cheap.
It's always been a danger with their plan, if it had ever worked it was reliant on no other party being interested.
Agree but its weird how CCC are quite desperate to sell it off if it is making money though dont you think? Clearly the £14M bail out was an alarmcall that this maybe isnt as lucrative as ACL are clearing making this out to be. I think one thing is for sure, that if Wasps are looking for an investment piece and use the ground on big occasions they are probably relying on us still to be tenants to make up the weekly balance.
Maybe like us, they are waiting to find out more about the deal and what exactly is propsed.
If the deal is being done in secret won't the deal be done by the time anyone outside the deal finds out? That will be too late won't it?
So the council selling their share of a company should not be a matter of public record? Honestly, some of you are embarrassing.
The negotiations will obviously be secret, but I don't see why they cannot release the basics of what the deal involves.
Let's say for instance you are a City fan and Coventrarian that only cares about CCFC and Cov RFC and what is best for them. You're not interested in Wasps and are indifferent to franchising. How then could you protest against this deal if you don't know whether the deal includes provision for the Sky Blues and Cov rugby?
If it is all done in private and CCFC and Cov rugby both lose out from the deal there would surely be all hell to pay.
The negotiations will obviously be secret, but I don't see why they cannot release the basics of what the deal involves.
Let's say for instance you are a City fan and Coventrarian that only cares about CCFC and Cov RFC and what is best for them. You're not interested in Wasps and are indifferent to franchising. How then could you protest against this deal if you don't know whether the deal includes provision for the Sky Blues and Cov rugby?
If it is all done in private and CCFC and Cov rugby both loseout on the deal there would surely be all hell to pay.
Spending £14m wasn't worthy of some minutes either.
and to add it would not be in the best of both parties do that either.
What almost everyone on this (and almost every other thread) fails to appreciate in their biased rantings is that CCFC will never own their own ground. SISU could/might and that is a very different proposition.
What you on about???.. Minutes were taken during that meeting but you seem to confuse with what the Judge in the JR threw out SISU case have having access to individual councillors notes.
There is a significant amount of clubs where the ground is owned by a 'holding' company, not actually by the club itself - a notable one being Arsenal. This is what would happen in our case most likely.Good point.
What about all these massive projected profits that ACL were to realise in the upcoming few years that they spouted on about in the recent court case.....was it all bullshit then? Why do they suddenly need/want to sell?
I assume Wasps will have to buy the full £14.4m loan outright on top of any purchase price of ACL?
So sick of this now....& my position remains the same, however I have one addition.
Sisu = cunts.
ACL = cunts.
CCC = cunts.
FL = cunts.
Wasps = cunts.
OK then... where are they? Has anyone ever seen them??
Well they must at least exist for the Judge to refuse access to them
OK then... where are they? Has anyone ever seen them??
What about all these massive projected profits that ACL were to realise in the upcoming few years that they spouted on about in the recent court case.....was it all bullshit then? Why do they suddenly need/want to sell?
I assume Wasps will have to buy the full £14.4m loan outright on top of any purchase price of ACL?
So sick of this now....& my position remains the same, however I have one addition.
Sisu = cunts.
ACL = cunts.
CCC = cunts.
FL = cunts.
Wasps = cunts.
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