Because, and at the risk of being labelled a ‘super fan’The entitlement levels of our fans is becoming embarrassing. No appreciation of how far we’ve come and how things were not so long ago.
You’d take that from an away gameWe also could have easily have lost - we concede now every game and the goals conceded are poor.
That’s the problem isn’t it. We now assume we’re a cut above these sorts of teams. Unreasonable expectation is leading to frustration. We’re a good Championship team - we have no divine right to be “top 6”. We play in the biggest slugfest of a league there is.Vague extreme meme for now, but have a feeling Doug’s broke it and we’re just another overspending midtable Championship side like Bristol or Stoke now.
That’s the problem isn’t it. We now assume we’re a cut above these sorts of teams. Unreasonable expectation is leading to frustration. We’re a good Championship team - we have no divine right to be “top 6”. We play in the biggest slugfest of a league there is.
Sorry alex thought you were just another one knocking the overworked midfield.I was being tongue in cheek calling them that!
I am not one of the ones who jump to disagree with you all the time. But this time you’re wrong.It’s a perfectly reasonable expectation and the owner and fans expect it
I would suggest our owner expects itI am not one of the ones who jump to disagree with you all the time. But this time you’re wrong.
We are one one of 10 or 12 teams hoping for top 6.
There are only 3or 4 expecting it. We are not one of those.
If he expects it then he knows what he needs to do. The middle of the park needs experienced cover.I would suggest our owner expects it
Sky and Google has it listed as 5-3-2. Formations are fluid so you can have both a defensive and attacking shapes.It was as stated 4-2-3-1
Bristol City 3-4 years ago perhapsVague extreme meme for now, but have a feeling Doug’s broke it and we’re just another overspending midtable Championship side like Bristol or Stoke now.
Sky and Google has it listed as 5-3-2. Formations are fluid so you can have both a defensive and attacking shapes.
In any case, the shape was nothing like the 4-2-3-1 we’ve played this season. Rudoni and EMC were playing either side of Simms - both trying to hit gaps between Watford’s 3 CBs and WBs. Neither were wide as wingers and MVE operated as a dynamic wing back, JDS certainly did not function as a LB either. The defence was also barely ever in a flat 4, in possession, Thomas was a central CB, with Lati and Kitching either side him.
Before Wright came on, whenever we defended, we sat in a 5-2-2-1 shape and afterward, defended in a 4-4-2 with Rudoni and Simms - the latter being what we’ve been doing all season.
I am not one of the ones who jump to disagree with you all the time. But this time you’re wrong.
We are one one of 10 or 12 teams hoping for top 6.
There are only 3or 4 expecting it. We are not one of those.
Yes - I was there and this is what I saw. 3-4-2-1 before Haji Wright came on.did you actually watch the game?
The player who scored ran from the edge of his own penalty area, Rudoni watched him go by. Then Torp was ball watching as was JDS. You defend from the front and we just didn't do it for the goal.Just seen highlights on ITV.
Haji's chance in stoppage time
EMC's chance at 1-0
Dasilva jogging in behind his man who tapped the ball into an empty net
Fine margins - but teams that do well find ways to win games like these.
Two away games now where we picked up 6 points the last two seasons. (Watford/Stoke)
Just the 1 out of them this season.
Yes - I was there and this is what I saw. 3-4-2-1 before Haji Wright came on.
Every goal is a collective failure and this need for one scapegoat is odd. Defensively, the modern game demands more teams to defend higher up the pitch. We got caught on the counter and 2 midfielders didn’t track the goal scorer and he eventually scored at the back post.The player who scored ran from the edge of his own penalty area, Rudoni watched him go by. Then Torp was ball watching as was JDS. You defend from the front and we just didn't do it for the goal.
I really don't understand this at all. Literally everyone would have had us in a better position right now.Blame the naive and mentally weak for lapping up the pre season expectations that were based on absolutely nothing.
I don't know what game you watched, but it certainly wasn't the same one I did.Sky and Google has it listed as 5-3-2. Formations are fluid so you can have both a defensive and attacking shapes.
In any case, the shape was nothing like the 4-2-3-1 we’ve played this season. Rudoni and EMC were playing either side of Simms - both trying to hit gaps between Watford’s 3 CBs and WBs. Neither were wide as wingers and MVE operated as a dynamic wing back, JDS certainly did not function as a LB either. The defence was also barely ever in a flat 4, in possession, Thomas was a central CB, with Lati and Kitching either side him.
Before Wright came on, whenever we defended, we sat in a 5-2-2-1 shape and afterward, defended in a 4-4-2 with Rudoni and Simms - the latter being what we’ve been doing all season.
Blame the naive and mentally weak for lapping up the pre season expectations that were based on absolutely nothing.
Haji tried a difficult pass instead of an easy one and gave the ball awayEvery goal is a collective failure and this need for one scapegoat is odd. Defensively, the modern game demands more teams to defend higher up the pitch. We got caught on the counter and 2 midfielders didn’t track the goal scorer and he eventually scored at the back post.
Not much is being said about the defending to let the player cross the ball across our 6 yard area. If that’s stopped, there is no goal.
I don't know what game you watched, but it certainly wasn't the same one I did.
So the Watford manager says it was 4-2-3-1 as do most people who were at the game but you claim it wasn't. Who to believe......Sky and Google has it listed as 5-3-2. Formations are fluid so you can have both a defensive and attacking shapes.
In any case, the shape was nothing like the 4-2-3-1 we’ve played this season. Rudoni and EMC were playing either side of Simms - both trying to hit gaps between Watford’s 3 CBs and WBs. Neither were wide as wingers and MVE operated as a dynamic wing back, JDS certainly did not function as a LB either. The defence was also barely ever in a flat 4, in possession, Thomas was a central CB, with Lati and Kitching either side him.
Before Wright came on, whenever we defended, we sat in a 5-2-2-1 shape and afterward, defended in a 4-4-2 with Rudoni and Simms - the latter being what we’ve been doing all season.
It is strange we have to pretend anything above midtable were somehow unrealistic expectations when the noise from the club was of challenging at the top end, the bookies agreed, the pundits agreed and we added to a squad that already had some very good players with yet more millions of pounds worth of talent.so you’re saying all the many pundits predicting top 6, and quite a few top 2 for us were basing their predictions on ‘absolutely nothing’?
and that the various signings we made pre season, the goals scored by Simms and Wright last season, the team achievements last season, the talk coming out of the club etc had no impact on expectations at all?
what a silly comment
so you’re saying all the many pundits predicting top 6, and quite a few top 2 for us were basing their predictions on ‘absolutely nothing’?
and that the various signings we made pre season, the goals scored by Simms and Wright last season, the team achievements last season, the talk coming out of the club etc had no impact on expectations at all?
what a silly comment
It is strange we have to pretend anything above midtable were somehow unrealistic expectations when the noise from the club was of challenging at the top end, the bookies agreed, the pundits agreed and we added to a squad that already had some very good players with yet more millions of pounds worth of talent.
It's ridiculous, I'd expect top 6 and I think rightly so.
You missed Eccles missing the open goal.Just seen highlights on ITV.
Haji's chance in stoppage time
EMC's chance at 1-0
Dasilva jogging in behind his man who tapped the ball into an empty net
Fine margins - but teams that do well find ways to win games like these.
Two away games now where we picked up 6 points the last two seasons. (Watford/Stoke)
Just the 1 out of them this season.
Anyone predicting top 2 has lost their mind.
so you’re saying all the many pundits predicting top 6, and quite a few top 2 for us were basing their predictions on ‘absolutely nothing’?
and that the various signings we made pre season, the goals scored by Simms and Wright last season, the team achievements last season, the talk coming out of the club etc had no impact on expectations at all?
what a silly comment
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