Grendel
Well-Known Member
mmmmm a choice between a debt laden hedge fund that owns a Rugby Team in London or a Mayfair based fund that owns the club I support.
A real tough one that
mmmmm a choice between a debt laden hedge fund that owns a Rugby Team in London or a Mayfair based fund that owns the club I support.Would anyone have really wanted Joy Sepalla to have owned and therefore controlled the Ricoh Arena ?
Has to be the most pathetic excuse ever for SISU's failings. We're talking about 2 professional companies buying another company not a couple of 6 year olds arguing over who has the biggest cake.
Were Nippon offered the same deal as TATA for JLR? Yes or No?
Stop making excuses for them. Negotiation by Litigation failed. End off.
to compare this situation with JLR and a car dealership is just daft, CCFC have a 125 year stake in this city and that should have been the major catalyst to get the stadium rights. We should have had first refusal on ACL. This of course may have happened (we never know with our wonderful owners) so i guess it is more waiting to see what happens next in court.
The club and the fans have been screwed out of a long term future however and can only see the performances on the pitch getting worse.
I agree that the stadium should belong to the club but that was never going to happen with Sisu in charge once they left Coventry.
You can look at it from 2 angles.
1. As a CCFC fan it would be nice if Sisu managed to Bankrupt ACL and rather than let the stadium become desolate CCC gave it to CCFC.
2. As a CCC ratepayer you would want the stadium to be successful and remain in Council ownership or sold for its market value with a tenant.
What evidence have CCC got that suggests SISU would not continue their play for the stadium freehold once Wasps were out the equation?
If there is a choice then Option 2 is the only one available to the council and by all accounts they had limited time to make it.
Were SISU
invited by Ann Lucas, on more than one occasion, to come along and talk about a possible deal to buy the Ricoh? Yes or No?
Did they take up the offer? Yes or No?
Did their plan to get the Ricoh on the cheap go horribly wrong? Yes or No?
Are they just a bunch of incompetent tossers? Yes or No?
Simples!
There is one very obvious reason we know it wasn't offered - think about it.
In fairness to Dongle, he did talk about Saturdays match a couple of times the other day...
You are finally right, one massively obvious reason they never bid and so did not enter negotiations so did not get offered the deal.
If you are going to make comments of this nature please do your your research.
Don't mind taking the flack but would be nice if you could bother your arse to back it up
But they should have been offered the deal.
The council has to value its community heritage first and had a duty to make that offer. There is to my knowledge no other council that has rendered one sporting club homeless and another under long term threat.
The reason we know they were not offered it is simply that the council evening telegraph did not report it - and I'm sure they would have managed to get the story somehow.
they wont last very long then, as the electorate will get the opportunity to vote them out if they didn't agree with what they did. Sadly, we dont get the same opportunity with the owners of our club.
Another boring and irrelevant post.
Got it in one mateits irrelevant that the electorate can vote out the council ?. or, its just that you cant agrue with that and it doesn't fit your stance, so its easier to insult the post ?
So which part of number 2 actually happened?
its irrelevant that the electorate can vote out the council ?.
or, its just that you cant agrue with that and it doesn't fit your stance, so its easier to insult the post ?
If the council gifted it to SISU then the rest of league 1 and the championship would probably scream as it would be seen as illegal state aid giving CCFC a distinct commercial advantage. So i don't think they could give it even if they wanted to
I know you made three posts not two
Its irrelevant because you are assuming one act will galvanise opinion when it won't. Political apathy exists especially in local elections.
If the council had gifted the Ricoh to sisu the only outrage or indeed interest would have been on here. It again would not change the fact that turnout would be pitiful and the same faces emerge.
Consider this. Two of the most unpopular leaders in recent British political history are the two longest serving. Deeply unpopular personalities and decisions do not mean defeat at the ballot box.
Our football club has had the worse two owners as the last two. But we have a couple that are blaming CCC for everything and looking for excuses for how badly things have gone wrong. And I count you as one of these. You have admitted your hatred of CCC. You insult anyone who has anything to do with CCC whilst looking for excuses for SISU. And this was well before Wasps got the Ricoh.
I do know without CCC sisu would never have owned the club.
Very good chance to be true. Without CCC there would not have been an arena built. Our club would have been homeless without a pot to piss in. Not as good a target as when SISU took over.
Very good chance to be true. Without CCC there would not have been an arena built. Our club would have been homeless without a pot to piss in. Not as good a target as when SISU took over.
Didn't they have to vote with their respective parties though? There wasn't a "free vote" was there?
Didn't they have to vote with their respective parties though? There wasn't a "free vote" was there?
If only we lived in Swansea eh?
How much of the management company were Swansea given by their council? Was it as much as the 50% CCC gave CCFC?
How much of the management company were Swansea given by their council? Was it as much as the 50% CCC gave CCFC?
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