What are YOU doing to help get SISU out ? (1 Viewer)

What exactly is my £1 going towards, more Tea and Biscuits, second class stamps for their questions to ACL / SISU ?
When I can see the Trust doing something proactive I may think differently about them.
As it stands there pretty much a laughing stock with no balls.
£1 on a lucky dip all day long

Covcraig@bury said:

What exactly is my £1 going towards, more Tea and Biscuits, second class stamps for their questions to ACL / SISU ?
When I can see the Trust doing something proactive I may think differently about them.
As it stands there pretty much a laughing stock with no balls.
£1 on a lucky dip all day long

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Fine carry on keep keep your pound you obviously need it:wave::wave:

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BrisbaneBronco said:

The best SISU will get from ACL/CCC is reduced rent and<b> SOME</b> income from matchdays.</p>
<p>This is as opposed to owning a ground 100% and getting 100% income streams, surely this is a better option <b>if only it were true.</b></p>
<p>As for location, a new ground would probably be no further away than the Ricoh which is on the outskirts of Coventry anyway.

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So what income will this new stadium have?

There will be no concerts, no conferences, they will all continue to be held at the Ricoh.

It will only be matchday income, how many pies do you think we will need to sell for that promotion push?

I would like to join this rabble( the trust) but on one condition psgm becomes the new rabble(sorry sky blue trust) leader....

I spent the day reading this,hoping they have slipped up

Looks like everyone knew of ccfc holdings,right back to 1996

Perhaps the hint at investigating directors etc has more to it than meets the eye!!

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What does all that mean then?

Not at all sure about any of this (like most of us!). Does this mean Arvo are the main creditor if Holdings is deemed to be in (or is eventually put into) administration? Looks like Arvo / Sisu are continuing to ensure they have control over any proceedings and assets held in Holdings.

For a start it means I've got no life and secondly if I could of pasted the rest (10,000 charactor limit)
It does state CCFC holdings profits will be reflected by TEAM performances and holdings are "apparently"responsible for Staff down to stewards etc

Gasworks Reserve said:

Not at all sure about any of this (like most of us!). Does this mean Arvo are the main creditor if Holdings is deemed to be in (or is eventually put into) administration? Looks like Arvo / Sisu are continuing to ensure they have control over any proceedings and assets held in Holdings.

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Yeah looks like they've taken the precuation in case the are found to be inextricably linked and the whole club is deemed to be in Admin ,may suggest they are unsure of their( ground ),can't believe I put that,forgive the Pun.:thinking about:

Covcraig@bury said:

What exactly is my £1 going towards, more Tea and Biscuits, second class stamps for their questions to ACL / SISU ?
When I can see the Trust doing something proactive I may think differently about them.
As it stands there pretty much a laughing stock with no balls.
£1 on a lucky dip all day long

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Why don't you join and find out what's going on (and we're running low on sugar)

Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:

The trust should do this the trust should do that the trust should do anything that anybody asks the trust should should should! Why should it bother you perhaps they are perhaps they're not if you want them to do something you want JOIN and suggest it like I posted in reply to another of your posts any answer NO

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Why would I join a clique that does nothing? If I was going to join an organisation, surely it would be a group that stated achievable goals (the trust came out at first stating getting £1000 from each of its members should be easily attainable!)

And looking at the half arsed unoriginal comments you get if you criticise clearly these guys are far more concerned with trying to suppress criticism than doing ANYTHING of a practical nature.

It seems odd that the SAME people are waxing lyrical over attacking ACL, seem to downplay contacting potential owners directly!

It is also quite pathetic whilst on one hand they desperately attack ACL (who have at least responded to criticism), yet have flatly refused to ask similarly probing and loaded questions to sisu! WOnder why?

When sisu have come out and threaten the fans, WHY are they still prepared to talk to these people?

Whilst certain of their membership are asking for a boycott and demonstration (actual action which is to be praised) they flat out refuse to do ACTUAL ACTIONS!

Just how hypocritical that the trust members ridicule emails from an individual to ALL possible people with influence, yet claim as a brilliant achievement to send 1 e-mail to an administrator!

But hey - the trust isn't about representing fans - NEVER WAS. When sisu came out and said they are moving away - did they express outrage? NO Did they send a letter of protest to sisu? NO

Yet what they DID do was say they are happy to talk to these people!

Quite frankly they have lost any right to be seen as the representative of the fans. Their leader seems far to concerned with getting his name in the papers and on the radio rather than trying to help save the club!

If they want to ridicule sending e-mails fine, but then if they do that they MUST actually do something practical!

Interesting that those backing the trust haven't actually done ANYTHING themselves.

Have I humiliated them because they themselves haven't even tried to do anything to save the club other than spend £1 on what I suspect will be a soon defunct clique?

Yes the TRUST apologisers hardly people who deserve any credit and certainly have done NOTHING AT ALL to save the club!

Those who can do, those who can't set up a trust and try and get themselves in the media as much as possible.

psgm1 said:

Why would I join a clique that does nothing? If I was going to join an organisation, surely it would be a group that stated achievable goals (the trust came out at first stating getting £1000 from each of its members should be easily attainable!)

And looking at the half arsed unoriginal comments you get if you criticise clearly these guys are far more concerned with trying to suppress criticism than doing ANYTHING of a practical nature.

It seems odd that the SAME people are waxing lyrical over attacking ACL, seem to downplay contacting potential owners directly!

It is also quite pathetic whilst on one hand they desperately attack ACL (who have at least responded to criticism), yet have flatly refused to ask similarly probing and loaded questions to sisu! WOnder why?

When sisu have come out and threaten the fans, WHY are they still prepared to talk to these people?

Whilst certain of their membership are asking for a boycott and demonstration (actual action which is to be praised) they flat out refuse to do ACTUAL ACTIONS!

Just how hypocritical that the trust members ridicule emails from an individual to ALL possible people with influence, yet claim as a brilliant achievement to send 1 e-mail to an administrator!

But hey - the trust isn't about representing fans - NEVER WAS. When sisu came out and said they are moving away - did they express outrage? NO Did they send a letter of protest to sisu? NO

Yet what they DID do was say they are happy to talk to these people!

Quite frankly they have lost any right to be seen as the representative of the fans. Their leader seems far to concerned with getting his name in the papers and on the radio rather than trying to help save the club!

If they want to ridicule sending e-mails fine, but then if they do that they MUST actually do something practical!

Interesting that those backing the trust haven't actually done ANYTHING themselves.

Have I humiliated them because they themselves haven't even tried to do anything to save the club other than spend £1 on what I suspect will be a soon defunct clique?

Yes the TRUST apologisers hardly people who deserve any credit and certainly have done NOTHING AT ALL to save the club!

Those who can do, those who can't set up a trust and try and get themselves in the media as much as possible.

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Jeez, I'll get me own sugar then.

By Pro-active you mean what.
Why should the SBT refuse to talk to SISU they are our owners
Why should the Trust refuse to talk to ACL they own our ground.
The Trust need to talk to these parties in order to understand what is going on. They were set up for that reason to be a voice.

If you want to start petitions or boycotts then that is fine start your own group that is not the trust Remit.
Sisu have refused to speak to the fans, and look what that has done.
Sisu maybe the good guy here I don't know but by refusing to be on the same level as the fans they have alienated themselves and so we are all on here shouting and balling.

I joined this site to talk football but have also been dragged down to this level.

I do love CCFC and believe that had SISU been more open then they would have had more followers at the end of the day we will not know what is going to happen for some time yet so we might as well stop bitching until all is out in the open and start talking Football.

Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:

Fine carry on keep keep your pound you obviously need it:wave::wave:

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TurkeyTrot said:

Why don't you join and find out what's going on (and we're running low on sugar)

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I'll pay the pound for him then he can put his views across and make a difference to how he believes the trust should be run.