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NOPM ..... did..........
Nothing to do with Wasps buying the Ricoh then?
Your infatuation with Simon Gilbert is cringeworthy.I'm not sure I get this argument. According to many of the same posters that peddle this line also say it was a 100% done deal. So how has bringing the club back changed that?
Personally I think it was a combination of things including media pressure (thankyou Simon), NOPM, the dean of Coventry and maybe even pressure by the FL behind the scenes. But anyone suggesting that NOPM played no part IMO most likely have a guilt complex.
Your infatuation with Simon Gilbert is cringeworthy.
Ooh thanks Simon. Get a fucking grip and try and wrench your tongue from his arse.
I believe the major factor was simply that about 90% of fans simply refused to go to Sixfields. Had Fisher been right and 3000-7000 turned up then they would not have been bothered. Even at £9 a game most people weren't tempted. Fisher, as usual, was completely wrong.
It was a victory for the fans, but has turned out to be a hollow one as the heart of the club was destroyed in that spell in Northampton. Like getting back with an old girlfriend, it never really works the second time, it's just not the same.
NOPM ..... did..........
I'm not sure I get this argument. According to many of the same posters that peddle this line also say it was a 100% done deal. So how has bringing the club back changed that?
Personally I think it was a combination of things including media pressure (thankyou Simon), NOPM, the dean of Coventry and maybe even pressure by the FL behind the scenes. But anyone suggesting that NOPM played no part IMO most likely have a guilt complex.
I feel we needed to get our asses back quick sharp on a very good rental deal. That may not have been offered by Wasps once they took over.
The council were able to say CCFC is part of the deal with us already in there.
Not so easy to say when we are Northampton refusing to come back.
I read the ccfc plan yesterday and interestingly it stated quite clearly the rental deal back at the Ricoh is less than 10 percent of the old rental deal. So let's do some math:
It was 1.2m a year so 10% is 120k so the current rental deal is less than 120k so let's say 100k a year that's very good and it also states we have access to some revenues that we didn't get before so 100k with certain revenues sounds a bloody good deal to me and if we have got this for the next 4 years then that's a good deal for the club.
Either that or die in Northampton bit of a no brainer.
Nothing to do with Wasps buying the Ricoh then?
Which is an even better deal than what Sixfields was. If ACL had offered this in the beginning AND not rejected the CVA I believe we never would have left.
I read the ccfc plan yesterday and interestingly it stated quite clearly the rental deal back at the Ricoh is less than 10 percent of the old rental deal. So let's do some math:
It was 1.2m a year so 10% is 120k so the current rental deal is less than 120k so let's say 100k a year that's very good and it also states we have access to some revenues that we didn't get before so 100k with certain revenues sounds a bloody good deal to me and if we have got this for the next 4 years then that's a good deal for the club.
Either that or die in Northampton bit of a no brainer.
Another math exercise:
Initial rent deal at Ricoh £1.2m with insignificant match day income.
One year in Northampton at £150k rent minus probably £2m in lost profit from ticket and shirt sales ... total cost about £2m give or take.
That opened up for 4 years at the Ricoh at £100k rent plus access to match day revenue - let's say total match day cost is now down to £50k.
Total saving since leaving Ricoh and the next 4 years is (4x£1.2m org rent deal) minus (£2m cost last year + £50kx4 rent next 4 years) = £2.6m.
They lost the good will of thousands of fans by moving to Nothampton, PRICELESS!
Another math exercise:
Initial rent deal at Ricoh £1.2m with insignificant match day income.
One year in Northampton at £150k rent minus probably £2m in lost profit from ticket and shirt sales ... total cost about £2m give or take.
That opened up for 4 years at the Ricoh at £100k rent plus access to match day revenue - let's say total match day cost is now down to £50k.
Total saving since leaving Ricoh and the next 4 years is (4x£1.2m org rent deal) minus (£2m cost last year + £50kx4 rent next 4 years) = £2.6m.
Too much noise from the hill gave fisher a headache. LolNOPM and perhaps too much bad publicity.
Losing a good proportion of the fan base and advertising revenue, making anything to do with SISU toxic: Priceless
The advertising value diminished when we were relegated to L1. I think ACL were the biggest loser in that department when the club left - think new sponsor deal.
I don't think it was NOPM or any intervention from the FL as either of those would have led to a
move back during the close season. We certainly wouldn't have been paying for a new pitch at Sixfields if there was any thought of coming back.
The timing seems to indicate it is connected to the Wasps purchase of the Ricoh so either CCC / Higgs / ACL did something drastic to get the club back as it was a requirement for the deal completing or SISU got wind of what was happening and got back ASAP for fear of any offer to return disappearing after the takeover.
I don't think it was NOPM or any intervention from the FL as either of those would have led to a move back during the close season. We certainly wouldn't have been paying for a new pitch at Sixfields if there was any thought of coming back.
The timing seems to indicate it is connected to the Wasps purchase of the Ricoh so either CCC / Higgs / ACL did something drastic to get the club back as it was a requirement for the deal completing or SISU got wind of what was happening and got back ASAP for fear of any offer to return disappearing after the takeover.
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So It was nothing to do with NOPM.
Or Fisher coming back from a meeting in May without a pot to piss in after the Investors said we aren't backing this Folly any more .
Why?I think that if NOPM was the main catalyst then it would have happened a lot earlier. Have to agree with CD, it was probably Wasps coming to town that did it.
Why?
It takes time for something like NOPM to work.
I Think they thought it was just a short term thing and that we would all come back.
As usual they were wrong not surprising really they get fuck all right.
I don't doubt that lack of funds would have come into it, but if it was May why didn't we move back close season and suddenly try and rush it within 2 weeks after the season started? It could well be just piss poor planning from SISU, it just doesn't make sense.
It would give them June / July to get the move back sorted, the "we are home, buy a season ticket" type stuff.
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