What is the problem - SISU aside? (1 Viewer)

[Paxman II]

We hear that our football at times is pretty and we play a nice possession game and that alone would give a side some confidence in a game over 90 minutes. Yet we capitulate far too often, known by all of us now as a team of 'one half' all too often this season, with perhaps the exception such as the Boro' or Leeds. They were both away fixtures against tough apposition too.

So what's the common denominator here?

The squad regardless of what some here think, is reasonable tbf and could achieve far better in this league. Grant you a couple of quality loans may make a difference but put that aside and concentrate on why this squad are not doing it consistently?

I don't think it's confidence either. I see the experienced players perhaps under-performing yes but what is the root problem?

Thorn I believe has got the boys in his court - for now.

I think we should be looking at the back room coaching, an area Thorn is probably reluctant to dispute as he came in from the back room staff but he has to find his 'management' shoes very soon and correct what I believe to be his nemesis right now.
Harrison and co are not up to it. Please remove them from their post and replace them with like minded people. They after all have presided over the last few failed managers. Thorn as a scout had little to do with those failures. If anything he spotted some rather good talent that has paid off handsomely.

Does he have the authority to change the back room staff? I wonder?

 

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[Gaz]

I really don't think that just blindly trying to find the answer by blaming the back room staff is the answer.

 

[Disorganised1]

I think coaching is an issue - we can't find the net with players who scored elsewhere - why ?

 

[cornoccfc]

No plan B.

Last night, prime example, holding our own for the first 45 mins, should have been ahead considering the chances.

2nd half, Millwall take a different approach, city players suddenly start giving away possession needlessly, end result 3-0 loss.

 

[shmmeee]

The clubs had big problems well before SISU arrived. If I had to give a reason id say apathetic crowd due to few people in the city with a long history there. Every kid I challenge for not supporting City can point to a Dad or grandad from elsewhere.

The problem at the moment is we lost some big players and never replaced them. If you were in that dressing room who would you pin your hopes on? The kids with less than 2 seasons of pro football under their belts (juke, McDonald, bigi, Thomas, Christie, Cameron ) or the journeymen who've hardly played at this level (platt, baker, mcpake, etc) or the players who have mentally already left the club (freddy, sammy, cranie)

There's no talisman like Westwood, Dann, King, etc who inspire confidenxe

 

[Lord_Nampil]

Its the massive cloud of doom and gloom which is over the city rather than the just the footy club,

last 10 yrs have been crap for alot of reasons, Jag plant closed, Massey Ferguson plant closed, both Peugeot out plants closed, Marconi went bust loads of unemployment and the credit crunch!!!

It is a hard rot to get out of when you have no money and your fan base also has no money!!! Its affected everything around the club and on to the pitch over the last 10 years!

We really need a lift sadly the current manager isnt the answer along with a few of the players but untill something changes we are stuck with what we have got! will

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Paxman you keep on going about how Harrison is part of the problem and the coaching staff is not up to it but unless you watch the training daily you don't know. I am not saying the coaching isn't a problem, I am saying we don't know.
When things are going bad we look to blame someone, looks like we have moved on from the manager and players to the coaching staff. Who next? The Ball boys? the staff who look after the pitch?

 

[Paxman II]

CCFC I have been consistent in my critique of Harrison. I watched a couple of games pre season and saw his attitude toward players that summarised why I think he has not got the persona to coach effectively.
I have not blamed the manager once. That's the whole point, I have not blamed SISU either as the current squad should be good enough.
That leaves the coaching staff and so far no one seems to think it's a problem accept a few on here. I seriously think it is. We make mistakes on the pitch when in reasonable positions? Thorn himself has said of the Millwall game he is angry with the fact they did not stick to the plan? Who's plan exactly....Harrison's influential coaching plan? Just think there is something in it for me....

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

CCFC I have been consistent in my critique of Harrison. I watched a couple of games pre season and saw his attitude toward players that summarised why I think he has not got the persona to coach effectively.
I have not blamed the manager once. That's the whole point, I have not blamed SISU either as the current squad should be good enough.
That leaves the coaching staff and so far no one seems to think it's a problem accept a few on here. I seriously think it is. We make mistakes on the pitch when in reasonable positions? Thorn himself has said of the Millwall game he is angry with the fact they did not stick to the plan? Who's plan exactly....Harrison's influential coaching plan? Just think there is something in it for me....

Yea I know you have been consistent I remember you questioning him a couple of months ago, I just don't know how you can pin point Harrison as the problem with out taking part or watching training daily.
I know you haven't blamed Thorn but it sort of seems to me as if having blamed all the previous managers (city fans in general) Boothroyd, Coleman etc. new managers have not solved the problem so now we are pin pointing the coaching staff as the problem with out any reasoning.
If we changed the coaching staff and we still were rubbish, who would we blame next?

 

[EleanorRigby]

When we were struggling in the Premiership with Gordon Strachan in charge time and again fans were blaming the coach at the time Gary Pendry. But the facts then are exactly the facts today, our players weren't good enough. If we suddenly got money to splash about a lot of this squad would be jettisoned out of the club and replaced. Blaming Harrison is a bit desperate if you ask me.

 

[Sky Blue Sheepy]

Ok im gonna summarise my opinions:
Thorn - no plan B, if his diamond doesn't work we're done. He's stubborn as much as anything and makes stupid changes a la Burnley with Cody.

Money: need I add more?

Marlon: unfortunately the guy was very good at taking defenders away, letting Clingan + Juke link up well. Juke will learn this trait, but doubt with us.

I think those are my main reasons, tho I'm sure there are arguments for many other reasons.