What needs to be done for Colchester? (1 Viewer)

Pete in Portugal · Feb 12, 2018

sw88 said:
Robins post match confirmed he was one of the victims to the illness in camp. Burge injured, Doyle injured, Bayliss ill, Davies injured, Grimmer injured, might have been another he mentioned had the illness too

So the only thing Robins can do for the Colchester game is to wave a magic wand and have them all back to fitness. But seriously, what do people expect Robins to do? It's going to be another big challenge for those who are fit. Biamou aside, they didn't rise to the challenge on Saturday, so realistically, what confidence can we have that they will beat Colchester? We can only hope that one or two have recovered sufficiently to play and that individually and collectively the whole team make more of a game of it.

The hardest decision Robins has, is who to play at RM, because since Jodi Jones injury, no-one looks good enough. Vincenti has been a big disappointment, but seems the best of a poor bunch. I suppose the jury is out on Barrett because he's clearly unfit.

Nick · Feb 12, 2018

Esoterica said:
1. Stop kicking the ball out of play straight from kick off and I'm not talking about the Kelly one - the amount of times we've started games by launching the ball out of play or straight back to the opposition (And then Robins comes out with sentences like “You need to get it right from minute one”)
2. Get Willis to actually lead the defence and get them 20 yards higher up the pitch so that our DM isn't left with the current 3 choices: a backwards 5 yard pass, or a dodgy 20 yard pass on the floor or a 45 yard hoof towards Biamou.
3. Play a left footed person on the left and a right footed person on the right.
4. Stop making Biamou do defensive work and let him play higher up the pitch closer to McNulty
5. Stop swapping the set piece taker every week. Was Barratt last week, JMD yesterday and then Shipley. Pick someone who plays every week.

The kick off thing is starting to piss me off, every kick off we have we give the ball away straight away. We just aimlessly hammer it forward, what's the point?

skyblueeyesrevisited · Feb 12, 2018

Simple. Keep possession of the ball. That’s how to win games. And before any says it I know we are not Barcelona but all teams can improve with basic training. To start wth stop the rugby style kick offs and the pointless attempts at working the line from every throw in. Stop attempting 45 yard diagonals. Stop the keeper kicking it straight down the middle to his opposite number. Get him to aim at the channels (note to Burge - these are not in the front rows of the stands). Get the front two closer together. If they do all of these things they will retain the ball far more.

Esoterica · Feb 12, 2018

Nick said:
The kick off thing is starting to piss me off, every kick off we have we give the ball away straight away. We just aimlessly hammer it forward, what's the point?

I'm pretty sure England used to do it under Graham Taylor under the premise of putting teams under pressure deep in their own half straight from kick off. It's one of those things that has no logical explanation though when you look at the reality of what actually happens - possession conceded and no early momentum built up. Whenever teams do that against me, it gives me a lift, as I always take it that they're not confident enough of keeping hold of the ball on the floor. Puts a spring in my step and makes me press that bit harder, just to see. -1 point to them in the psychology stakes straight from kick off.

Otis · Feb 12, 2018

Nick said:
The kick off thing is starting to piss me off, every kick off we have we give the ball away straight away. We just aimlessly hammer it forward, what's the point?

My first comment after the opening kick off on Saturday.

Accrington made a short pass and tried to weave their way upfield in the second half, but not us. We always just automatically kick it towards the touchline and invariably it usually just goes out if play.

Skyblueweeman · Feb 12, 2018

sw88 said:
Robins post match confirmed he was one of the victims to the illness in camp. Burge injured, Doyle injured, Bayliss ill, Davies injured, Grimmer injured, might have been another he mentioned had the illness too

In just over 30 years of supporting the club, I genuinely cannot remember a time when we've had so much bad luck with injuries/illness.

ccfcrob · Feb 12, 2018

Houchens Head said:
What needs to be done for Colchester? Sod 'em! What have Colchester ever done for us?! :mooning:

Apart from the Aquaduct?

Colin1883 · Feb 12, 2018

The whole team should take to the pitch wearing brass knuckles....

Terry Gibson's perm · Feb 12, 2018

From what people are saying Barrett could do with this virus to lose a bit of his chub

Warwickhunt · Feb 12, 2018

Nick said:
The kick off thing is starting to piss me off, every kick off we have we give the ball away straight away. We just aimlessly hammer it forward, what's the point?

As you said Nick no plan!

Warwickhunt · Feb 12, 2018

wingy said:
Post match interview ,he's also lost around 10 -12 lbs.

I think Barrett could do with a bit of the virus

Nick · Feb 12, 2018

Warwickhunt said:
As you said Nick no plan!

I don't get why it's being allowed to happen every game all season time and time again, even when we go 1-0 down we just hammer the ball out of play or to Biamou who is there on his own. Even if he wins it, it goes to their defender.

Otis · Feb 12, 2018

Nick said:
I don't get why it's being allowed to happen every game all season time and time again, even when we go 1-0 down we just hammer the ball out of play or to Biamou who is there on his own. Even if he wins it, it goes to their defender.

Has me shaking my head for sure.

Nick · Feb 12, 2018

It's the same as throw ins, even if by some miracle Biamou can win a header with somebody in front of him and the other one behind him holding him down there's nobody behind him anyway to get the flick on.

steve82 · Feb 12, 2018

Anyone notice a traditional kick off Accrington did Saturday. 2 players kicked off as opposed to our diagonal ball.

Rare to see now

Nick · Feb 12, 2018

steve82 said:
Anyone notice a traditional kick off Accrington did Saturday. 2 players kicked off as opposed to our diagonal ball.

Rare to see now

Yep, they just kept possession and played it normally.

Nobody has told us the rules aren't to lay it back then hammer it forward.

covcity4life · Feb 12, 2018

having nazon back would help too

see his goal for oldham? WORLDY

Nick · Feb 12, 2018

covcity4life said:
having nazon back would help too

see his goal for oldham? WORLDY

Baker as well? He was on the bench when he was here anyway.

We need to sort the system out, rather than hope for worldies.

johnwillomagic · Feb 12, 2018

I said before think Robins cocked up a bit with Nazon reckon he would have stayed if Robins had shown more confidence with him!

ceetee · Feb 12, 2018

Sky Blue Harry H said:
Do not play people who are unwell. I don't want to hear after the game that McNulty was 80% or Bayliss 75%. Play a 100% fit Ponticelli, or a 100% fit Maycock - whoever, but we want athletes to put 100% out there and the manager should be making that call. Then it's up to Robbins to get them organised. Players played in correct positions. Centre midfield, hopefully Bayliss will have recovered, and Kelly improved, but I wouldn't be adverse to Shipley moved into the Centre. Reid must start left and 2 fit forwards up front. Let's bloody attack them, 3 points for a win is massive - let's have a go, instead of the pragmatic cautious approach. It's not like we'll be facing a hostile atmosphere on Tuesday - no need to fear anything.

.....and there's also the risk that playing Bayliss and McNulty could have delayed or even extended their recovery time

steve82 · Feb 12, 2018

johnwillomagic said:
I said before think Robins cocked up a bit with Nazon reckon he would have stayed if Robins had shown more confidence with him!

I don't think he cocked up at all. If Nazon played for the team in all his games and stuck to the tasks set he'd of played more.

Nazon is solely out this season to make a name for himself, he's doing that just with his goals to raise his profile at wolves. Did it in L2 briefly, lost his way and needs the new challenge to showcase his ability. He's doing it now for oldham in L1 at his request.

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Feb 12, 2018

We need a complete change in tactics, and we need to drop a few players. The commitment wasn't there on Saturday which is shocking considering what a day it was. Some of those players need dropping, and even though his commitment was there, Biamou does too.

Depending on illness, I would go with:

Burge

Willis
Hyam (absolutely dying for a chance, he will perform)
McDonald
Stokes

Kelly
Reid (hate him but won't spite my face on this one)
Bayliss

Vincenti (his actual position)

JCH
McNulty

It's a 4-4-2 with Doyle holding and Vincenti playing just behind the strikers in the middle. I know it leaves Bayliss on the right but I can't think of anyone else who will be good enough.

It's a gamble, but after the last two games I think we need it.

covcity4life · Feb 12, 2018

Nick said:
Baker as well? He was on the bench when he was here anyway.

We need to sort the system out, rather than hope for worldies.

he made a difference from the bench and when he started

we are starting to miss him

the fact he had a worldy in him and dribbling skills helped us overcome the poor system.

not an option to get him back now anyway so robins needs to work on tactics

covcity4life · Feb 12, 2018

steve82 said:
I don't think he cocked up at all. If Nazon played for the team in all his games and stuck to the tasks set he'd of played more.

Nazon is solely out this season to make a name for himself, he's doing that just with his goals to raise his profile at wolves. Did it in L2 briefly, lost his way and needs the new challenge to showcase his ability. He's doing it now for oldham in L1 at his request.

slade and robins never get anything wrong. only mowbray

we get it steve

robbiekeane · Feb 12, 2018

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
We need a complete change in tactics, and we need to drop a few players. The commitment wasn't there on Saturday which is shocking considering what a day it was. Some of those players need dropping, and even though his commitment was there, Biamou does too.

Depending on illness, I would go with:

Burge

Willis
Hyam (absolutely dying for a chance, he will perform)
McDonald
Stokes

Kelly
Reid (hate him but won't spite my face on this one)
Bayliss

Vincenti (his actual position)

JCH
McNulty

It's a 4-4-2 with Doyle holding and Vincenti playing just behind the strikers in the middle. I know it leaves Bayliss on the right but I can't think of anyone else who will be good enough.

It's a gamble, but after the last two games I think we need it.

Doyle isn't on your list?

Nick · Feb 12, 2018

covcity4life said:
he made a difference from the bench and when he started

we are starting to miss him

the fact he had a worldy in him and dribbling skills helped us overcome the poor system.

not an option to get him back now anyway so robins needs to work on tactics

Only in some games, it's the same as McNulty where we can't rely on people scoring worldies. We need team goals and a way to break teams down rather than hoping we score from 30 yards or a striker can take 2 defenders on and put it in.

Nick · Feb 12, 2018

Another thing that pisses me off is throw ins. Do they get fined if anybody else other than the full back takes them?

There has been times on a counter attack where it goes out for a throw, does the striker / winger or anybody run for it to get it and throw it to the player in space? Course not, we wait for the full back to stroll up to try the long throw to the player double marked with nobody else around him once everybody else is back in position.

Do they not teach any other players throw ins any more?

clint van damme · Feb 12, 2018

Nick said:
Another thing that pisses me off is throw ins. Do they get fined if anybody else other than the full back takes them?

There has been times on a counter attack where it goes out for a throw, does the striker / winger or anybody run for it to get it and throw it to the player in space? Course not, we wait for the full back to stroll up to try the long throw to the player double marked with nobody else around him once everybody else is back in position.

Do they not teach any other players throw ins any more?

you also see the throw in taker looking to hit the space at the front f the 18 yard box but there's no one there. If Biamou moves into that spare there's no one for him to flick it on to. Thought that might get solved when Vicenti came on but it was still as ineffective.

Nick · Feb 12, 2018

clint van damme said:
you also see the throw in taker looking to hit the space at the front f the 18 yard box but there's no one there. If Biamou moves into that spare there's no one for him to flick it on to. Thought that might get solved when Vicenti came on but it was still as ineffective.

It's pretty pointless as they get double marked. DKE did it a few times on Saturday, he may as well have just thrown it out for a goal kick.

Nick · Feb 12, 2018

Oh and somebody needs to put one on Stevenson in the first 5 minutes as well and get in his ear. It's pretty obvious from watching him that he is easy to bully and intimidate, we will be missing a trick to go out there and be his best mate and stand off him and let him do what he wants.

Couldn't give a shit how long he was here, we need to win and get any advantage we can. If that means snapping him early doors then so be it.

Mcbean · Feb 12, 2018

Loads on here i agree with - yes throw ins - disaster - ball inevitedly ends up going to a player within 6 ft who has no where to go - hospital pass - we need a long throw specialist - they need to be taught how - we waste so much time on throw ins and playing on the line and giving the ball away - DKE - NO NO NO - move Willis and put Hyam in the centre possibly - if players are ill they need a rest - put JC on - Brighton not important today

covcity4life · Feb 12, 2018

Nick said:
Only in some games, it's the same as McNulty where we can't rely on people scoring worldies. We need team goals and a way to break teams down rather than hoping we score from 30 yards or a striker can take 2 defenders on and put it in.

indeed but a striker that can do them is a huge plus and we have lost 1 unforuntley

Nick · Feb 12, 2018

covcity4life said:
indeed but a striker that can do them is a huge plus and we have lost 1 unforuntley

It's not to be relied upon though, we would be better off creating more chances and getting more normal games with a gameplan rather than just "Give it to Nazon and hope he scores".

covcity4life · Feb 12, 2018

Nick said:
It's not to be relied upon though, we would be better off creating more chances and getting more normal games with a gameplan rather than just "Give it to Nazon and hope he scores".

yes we have already agreed on this

having a gameplan in place already and then having someone of quality of nazon getting on to end of them chances, now thats the dream

AVWskyblue · Feb 12, 2018

johnwillomagic said:
I said before think Robins cocked up a bit with Nazon reckon he would have stayed if Robins had shown more confidence with him!

To be fair to Mr Nazon wanted to come off on a few occasions consecutively

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