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Not really. It’s a sex game, either you’re happy to take part or you’re not but if you’re part of it you should be made aware or you’re being used.
Not really. It’s a sex game, either you’re happy to take part or you’re not but if you’re part of it you should be made aware or you’re being used.Slippery slope that. What next? She had fake tan I don’t consent? She was getting back at her ex I don’t consent?
Any uni student is an adult and capable of deciding who to sleep with in full knowledge that people on the pull lie and don’t call back.
Not really. It’s a sex game, either you’re happy to take part or you’re not but if you’re part of it you should be made aware or you’re being used.
Not really. It’s a sex game, either you’re happy to take part or you’re not but if you’re part of it you should be made aware or you’re being used.
There is nothing left wing about that. Mob mentality and youthful idiocy are a hell of a drug.
All sex is sex games. How do I know anyone’s motivations for sleeping with me? As long as the women consented to what happened, the motivations are irrelevant.
Sexual assault is serious. This is just a dick move comparable with claiming you’re a pilot or whatever.
To be fair, my what's app group with my old army mates wouldn't be deemed a pleasant read for many females
What on earth has this got to do with the point being discussed?
All sex is sex games. How do I know anyone’s motivations for sleeping with me? As long as the women consented to what happened, the motivations are irrelevant.
Sexual assault is serious. This is just a dick move comparable with claiming you’re a pilot or whatever.
It was a tongue in cheek response to the posts that immediately proceeded it which had started to go down a political road. It helps if you read the thread.
Anyway, the whole debate about cancel culture and the policing of speech is increasingly being fought along left/right lines. The 'mob', whether they be a twitter mob piling on to JK Rowling, a mob trying to topple a statue somewhere, a mob marauding through Portland smashing up property, or the mob in the image screaming at someone for refusing to adopt their salute; they all claim to represent the left. They have that in common no? Proper leftists can disown them, and should, but it doesn't stop it being true. The whole target of the OP was 'rich white boys', so don't tell me this isn't political.
Many years ago in our halls of residence a couple of girls from the college decided that would try and shag as many lads in the hall
As possible one Saturday - I have no idea how many they went through but they were legends - most of the lads had to make a visit to the local clinic In the following week at the time which was hilarious but no one was offended by the action -Some of the lads Learnt a thing or two - the difference is today social media on this would have gone viral And many would have been offended . Not just sure which party would have hauled over the coals as it was all consensual - Sadly the world has changed to this woke bollox and attitudes today would not have seen this as harmless fun no one was being exploited -
Not true at all. The only people claiming they represent the left are the people on the other side of the political spectrum who like to categorise in this way because they lack the intellectual capacity to understand why people might speak out. Cancel culture is a myth pedalled by right wing snowflakes that get called out for their intolerant bile.
And speaking of ‘mob’ culture - pretty sure the mob of Saville and his band of sexual abusers weren’t exactly identifying on the left side of the political spectrum were they.
Cancel culture is not a myth.
You’ve got universities cancelling events for numerous speakers. Yes, predominantly conservative speakers, but people like Germaine Greer have been cancelled because her feminism isn’t inclusive of trans people.
Freedom of speech shouldn’t be curtailed at all. All ideas should be able to have a public space to debate their ideas, and ultimately, the best ideas end up winning on the merits of its arguments.
You can’t kill ideas by ‘cancelling’ them, you drive them underground and people can get sucked into echo chambers with no alternative views presented. Especially now social media recommends more people who are similar to people you follow/subscribe to.
Of course people should have the platform to debate ideas across a variety of views and political beliefs, that doesn’t mean that a) a cancel culture is taking over and b) that it should give free rein to people with some pretty horrific views. There is still enough distinction between discussing controversial ideas and giving a platform to a racist.
No one would dream of giving a platform to a Holocaust denier for example... denying that to someone would not be evidence of a cancel culture either.
Of course people should have the platform to debate ideas across a variety of views and political beliefs, that doesn’t mean that a) a cancel culture is taking over and b) that it should give free rein to people with some pretty horrific views. There is still enough distinction between discussing controversial ideas and giving a platform to a racist.
No one would dream of giving a platform to a Holocaust denier for example... denying that to someone would not be evidence of a cancel culture either.
We did give “platforms” to holocaust deniers. We had a trial in court FFS. They lost miserably and were discredited.
We’re living in the age of infinite “platforms”.
Anyway what’s actually happening is a bunch of randoms are having their lives ruined because of one bad tweet or simply holding views that don’t align with the most radical social justice activists. Look at Jk Rowling, who has fuck you money and is basically untouchable, but another smaller writer got dropped for supporting her. A woman fired for the crime of supporting another woman saying women exist and are an important political category.
Or the Data Analyst fired for retweeting a study (by a black man not that it matters) that showed the democrat vote goes down in areas with race riots. Not even agreeing with anything, just highlighting a study.
It’s rife in academia with people having research funding withdrawn or teaching positions lost because of slightly socially conservative views.
It’s disingenuous to pretend that we’re just stopping some Really Bad Guys saying Really Bad Things. It’s the exact same nasty mob rule as those pedo hunters who attacked a paediatrician.
This whole idea of trying to get people sacked for saying anything unfortunate has to stop.
We did give “platforms” to holocaust deniers. We had a trial in court FFS. They lost miserably and were discredited.
We’re living in the age of infinite “platforms”.
Anyway what’s actually happening is a bunch of randoms are having their lives ruined because of one bad tweet or simply holding views that don’t align with the most radical social justice activists. Look at Jk Rowling, who has fuck you money and is basically untouchable, but another smaller writer got dropped for supporting her. A woman fired for the crime of supporting another woman saying women exist and are an important political category.
Or the Data Analyst fired for retweeting a study (by a black man not that it matters) that showed the democrat vote goes down in areas with race riots. Not even agreeing with anything, just highlighting a study.
It’s rife in academia with people having research funding withdrawn or teaching positions lost because of slightly socially conservative views.
It’s disingenuous to pretend that we’re just stopping some Really Bad Guys saying Really Bad Things. It’s the exact same nasty mob rule as those pedo hunters who attacked a paediatrician.
Define wrong. Back something up with valid sources and evidence, and you can say what you want on every degree I can have immediate experience of...My dad was at university finishing off his phscology degree a couple years back ... And he said the fear of saying something wrong or out of place is a big problem
I know its been quite rare lately... But I agree with this post of yours
Define wrong. Back something up with valid sources and evidence, and you can say what you want on every degree I can have immediate experience of...
What?!?Source = dad
Evidence = none sorry
I could request CCTV from the university in 2017 but I'm unsure they had it in the rooms, I could phone my dad up and tell him he's not reliablewhat a ridiculous reply
You told me to give you a source and evidence from my dad saying they feared saying the wrong thing at university ... I mean what sort of question is thatWhat?!?
I really didn't you absolute loonYou told me to give you a source and evidence from my dad saying they feared saying the wrong thing at uni... I mean what sort of question is that
I really didn't you absolute loon
I don’t disagree with this, where I feel uncomfortable is where ‘free speech’ is utilised to degrade, dehumanise and persecute people.More than I’m left wing I’m pro free speech and debate. Ideas are hardened in debate and no one has complete answers for everything. You should be able to be wrong, it’s a human right. Diversity of thought is our species’ secret weapon.
I don’t disagree with this, where I feel uncomfortable is where ‘free speech’ is utilised to degrade, dehumanise and persecute people.
Agreed.
There’s seemingly no room for forgiveness when someone may say something out of line and maybe a bit misinformed.
Cancel culture will eat itself alive anyway. Robin DiAngelo, who wrote ‘White Fragility’, faced a bit of backlash because she is a white woman
In general, atomising everyone to their immutable characteristics is not a good way to run society. The rights of the individual is what made Western democracies particularly stable.
Even if that is the case, most of the people shut down are not guilty of persecuting people. Ultimately, speech that is based on bigoted and hateful arguments is discredited in the public when confronted with empirical evidence.
Liberal values have to protected at all costs, and freedom of (all) speech is the most important value of them all. Even people I vehemently disagree with.
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