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Covstu · Dec 29, 2014

skybluetony176 said:
SISU aren't talking to the CET or the trust. Probably because they are asking for answers.

don't see much evidence of this, maybe they are asking too nicely...

Flying Fokker · Dec 29, 2014

Travs said:
But if SISU did what 'the fans' want and threw more money at the club in an attempt to chase back the 'glory days' (built on money we didn't have), then we would be back in the same position.

Alternatively they could do what the fans also want and 'fuck off' and then we would have no club, which they would no doubt then get the blame for, despite all the clamour for them to go.

Maybe we actually need SISU to take a tough hand with the club (and the fans), stick to their plan of cutting down the costs until we finally rid ourselves of debt, and hope we still have a club left at the end of it, and build from their. Cos lets face it if they listened to 'the fans' every time then we'd most likely be in an even worse situation financially, with no guarantee of being in a better footballing situation.

We are now paying for the glory years that we couldn't afford, yes it's shit, but I live in hope that SISU know what they're doing. After all, we were all ecstatic when they came in 'hard nosed businessmen' 'tough decisions to be made' 'worse before it gets better' etc....

In the meantime SISU's debt mountain(Account based) continues. I see not reason for that to change so the debt will never be paid.

In the meantime, their number crunchers are forming another business plan which runs on 5k paying passengers (As alluded to in previous posts). The only way to beat this cycle of failure is to take personal control and not get on the train at all.

mrtrench · Dec 29, 2014

Nick said:
Saying only season tickets holders are fans is bullying? Whilst I don't agree with his statement, that one is a bit ott...

Pigeon holing people into artificial groups and name-calling is a form of bullying. It's also bigoted.

I understand your standpoint - this is not aimed at any one individual on here and hence is harmless enough although pointless. I didn't mean bullying in that way.

Terry Gibson's perm · Dec 29, 2014

I would say at the moment the real fans are the ones who are buying tickets match to match as at least they have a choice and are still choosing to go! I am a season ticket holder so blindly and foolishly paid in advance so have no choice.

rupert_bear · Dec 29, 2014

I am not a season ticket holder and haven't been for years I am a pay on the day merchant which means over a season I pay a good deal more than a season ticket holder, so does that make me a better supporter as I put more money into the club than a season ticket holder ?

mrtrench · Dec 29, 2014

There is NO SUCH THING as a real fan. Stop trying to define it. Why do you need to segregate people?

Some people buy season tickets to watch CCFC. They can be bucketed as 'season ticket holders'.

Some people go to games but not all of them. Some of these go more than others.

Some people used to go to games but moved away.

Some people have never been to a game, but still follow Cov's results and want them to do well.

Some people have little interest in CCFC but were pleased when we won the FA Cup.

Some people have no interest in football.

Some people actively follow another side in some way.

Other than the last three, they are all CCFC fans in some way. Not one of them is artificial.

Nick · Dec 29, 2014

rupert_bear said:
I am not a season ticket holder and haven't been for years I am a pay on the day merchant which means over a season I pay a good deal more than a season ticket holder, so does that make me a better supporter as I put more money into the club than a season ticket holder ?

No because you are just supporting sisus court cases more than anybody else*

*this is a joke because of the silly posts the other day

You should have a look at the match day packages, works out much easier!

Jack Griffin · Dec 29, 2014

Neutral Fan said:
Now THAT I agree with! Taking 7000 to watch a franchise IS unforgivable lol.

AFC Wimbledon took about 3000 when they played MK franchise in the cup, is that OK?

Nick · Dec 29, 2014

Jack Griffin said:
AFC Wimbledon took about 3000 when they played MK franchise in the cup, is that OK?

Slightly different though? They had a bit of motivation to go, reasons. It would be like us playing villa, leicester, brum and Sunderland at same time, then times it by a fair bit. We would get a good turnout... people wanting to go and stick it to them...all over press.... hyped up...

Our reason was that people were currently boycotting because of our club being moved....

sky blue zam · Dec 29, 2014

dongonzalos said:
What was our average attendance when SISU saved us from administration?

Probably not the most reliable but attendances are here.
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&s...URQu2L1LWDXDYIKqw&sig2=Y7sj0o_s3Vof1cHb5f0ONw

Jack Griffin · Dec 29, 2014

sky blue zam said:
Probably not the most reliable but attendances are here.
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&s...URQu2L1LWDXDYIKqw&sig2=Y7sj0o_s3Vof1cHb5f0ONw

http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/covc.htm

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Year 	Place 	Tier 	OA Pos 	Average
2014 	18 	3 	62 	2.348
2013 	15 	3 	59 	10.997
2012 	23 	2 	43 	15.119  	 
2011 	18 	2 	38 	16.310 	  	 
2010 	19 	2 	39 	17.305 	  	 
2009 	17 	2 	37 	17.408	  	 
2008 	21 	2 	41 	19.123  	 
2007 	17 	2 	37 	20.342  	 
2006 	8 	2 	28 	21.180	  	 
2005 	19 	2 	39 	16.048 	 
2004 	12 	2 	32 	14.816  	 
2003 	20 	2 	40 	14.813	 
2002 	11 	2 	31 	16.150  	 
2001 	19 	1 	19 	20.582

Flying Fokker · Jan 2, 2015

Terry Gibson's perm said:
I would say at the moment the real fans are the ones who are buying tickets match to match as at least they have a choice and are still choosing to go! I am a season ticket holder so blindly and foolishly paid in advance so have no choice.

I have just as much choice as the bloke who goes up match by match rather than holding a season ticket.

Just cause I have my season ticket does not mean I have to go to every match. I've already missed at least 4 matches so far. The club is in a mess, continues to lose fans etc. Without season ticket revenue they would be going in to administration again. Next season will not be the same for me. Next year I am not getting a season ticket. I will not walk up.

Those of us who have season tickets now still have choices.
Also, looking at the figures below it the 2013 season was a killer for attendances. Then SISU decided they could do even worse if they concocted a move away to Sixfields.

ear Place Tier OA Pos Average
2014 18 3 62 2.348
2013 15 3 59 10.997
2012 23 2 43 15.119
2011 18 2 38 16.310
2010 19 2 39 17.305
2009 17 2 37 17.408
2008 21 2 41 19.123
2007 17 2 37 20.342
2006 8 2 28 21.180
2005 19 2 39 16.048
2004 12 2 32 14.816
2003 20 2 40 14.813
2002 11 2 31 16.150
2001 19 1 19 20.582

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