Whatever happened to Les Reid (1 Viewer)

martcov · Aug 31, 2014

To be fair, he (LR) got the first interview with Joy. It would be great, if he were to reappear with a new interview from Joy explaining her plans for the future - perhaps with another paper seeing as the saga attracted plenty of national interest. I think Joy should be up for that - I would be, in her position, wanting to turn the return to the Ricoh and the continuing appeals into a positive scenario.

Seems strange that we don't hear anything from him.

skybluetony176 · Aug 31, 2014

martcov said:
To be fair, he (LR) got the first interview with Joy. It would be great, if he were to reappear with a new interview from Joy explaining her plans for the future - perhaps with another paper seeing as the saga attracted plenty of national interest. I think Joy should be up for that - I would be, in her position, wanting to turn the return to the Ricoh and the continuing appeals into a positive scenario.

Seems strange that we don't hear anything from him.

It would be interesting to hear her take on why the judge got it wrong. I don't think anyone who claims he did has explained why he did as yet.

Ian1779 · Aug 31, 2014

martcov said:
To be fair, he (LR) got the first interview with Joy. It would be great, if he were to reappear with a new interview from Joy explaining her plans for the future - perhaps with another paper seeing as the saga attracted plenty of national interest. I think Joy should be up for that - I would be, in her position, wanting to turn the return to the Ricoh and the continuing appeals into a positive scenario.

Seems strange that we don't hear anything from him.

Surely the 'gardening leave' can't last forever?

Astute · Aug 31, 2014

Grendel said:
Les Reid has written articles for the Guardian and Private Eye and had won awards for political journalism - is that the barometer of a good journalist? I assume twitter followers can stop following? I'm sure many have.

Maybe just good at journalism when his target can't shout back?

Astute · Aug 31, 2014

Ian1779 said:
Surely the 'gardening leave' can't last forever?

Maybe he is tending to 'Joy's garden' now.

Ian1779 · Aug 31, 2014

Astute said:
Maybe he is tending to 'Joy's garden' now.

skybluetony176 · Aug 31, 2014

Astute said:
Maybe he is tending to 'Joy's garden' now.

That sounds like your fantasy dude

John_Silletts_Nose · Nov 18, 2014

He's working for Coventry Observer & posting on Twitter

letsallsingtogether · Nov 18, 2014

John_Silletts_Nose said:
He's working for Coventry Observer & posting on Twitter

Upwards and onwards then.

John_Silletts_Nose · Nov 18, 2014

Les Reid is an award-winning multi-media political correspondent, columnist and investigative reporter who has written for UK local and national newspapers for more than 15 years, now working for a free newspaper.

blueflint · Nov 18, 2014

he was kidnapped with shergar

MichaelCCFC · Nov 18, 2014

More to the point, whatever happened to the op - Rationalizer?

AndreasB · Nov 19, 2014

John_Silletts_Nose said:
Les Reid is an award-winning multi-media political correspondent, columnist and investigative reporter who has written for UK local and national newspapers for more than 15 years, now working for a free newspaper.

Thats the future - the London Evening Standard is a free newspaper. The Guardian online is now free. Journalists get paid off and shoved out if they fall out with editors/owners or at a whim. They accept it as part of the job - it probably couldnt happen where we all work but is common practice in the murky world of the press.

shmmeee · Nov 19, 2014

A reporter no one listens to at a paper no one reads. Seems like the perfect match.

torchomatic · Nov 19, 2014

But a reporter you're still obsessed with, it seems.

shmmeee said:
A reporter no one listens to at a paper no one reads. Seems like the perfect match.

The Lurker · Nov 19, 2014

bit like rob s who only appears when Les reid has an exclusive lol

John_Silletts_Nose · Nov 19, 2014

AndreasB said:
Thats the future - the London Evening Standard is a free newspaper. The Guardian online is now free. Journalists get paid off and shoved out if they fall out with editors/owners or at a whim. They accept it as part of the job - it probably couldnt happen where we all work but is common practice in the murky world of the press.

Whilst it is true that the business model for newspapers has and continues to change, it is misleading to compare the London Evening Standard and an online version of a national newspaper against a local city free newspaper which is not the leading print newspaper of the city.

I am interested in reading his exclusive on why he disappeared from the limelight for so long.

Grendel · Nov 19, 2014

John_Silletts_Nose said:
Whilst it is true that the business model for newspapers has and continues to change, it is misleading to compare the London Evening Standard and an online version of a national newspaper against a local city free newspaper which is not the leading print newspaper of the city.

I am interested in reading his exclusive on why he disappeared from the limelight for so long.

He was the subject of a gagging order which was public knowledge - so you clearly don't read very much.

Jack Griffin · Nov 19, 2014

What are gagging orders?

Gagging orders are better known in legal terms as confidentiality clauses. They are usually agreed when an employee leaves an employer, having been made redundant or after a disagreement or issue in the workplace.
How do they work?

The employer asks the employee to sign a compromise agreement, under which they waive their right to legal action. This could be in the form of a claim for unfair dismissal at an employment tribunal or a claim for breach of contract.

According to employment lawyers, most compromise agreements also include confidentiality clauses. These bar employees from talking publically or to the press about their former employer of the circumstances under which they left.

They can be far-reaching, barring an individual from even speaking to their spouse about the issue. One council barred an employee from making freedom of information or data protection requests.
Why do people sign them?

In return for signing the agreement and remaining silent, the employee is usually given a lump sum. Barry Warne, head of employment at HLW Keeble Hawson, said: "The employee is being bought off, often with more than his claim is really worth. It is the price of silence."

Why is it so controversial?

Under the terms of the Public Interest Disclosure act, whistleblowers are supposed to be protected. However, many believe that gagging orders have a "deterrent effect". "Employers can't sign away the right to whistleblow, but many people think they can," said Mr Warne.

Mr Warne believes the agreements should not be used in the public sector, except for matters of national security. "Everything in the public sector should be public information," he said.
What happens if people breach their agreement?

An employee could face demands for the return of the severance payment or be sued for damages in the High Court.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9967899/Gagging-orders-explained.html

So did Reid get a payoff, surely now he isn't under a gagging order we can be told..

letsallsingtogether · Nov 19, 2014

Grendel said:
He was the subject of a gagging order which was public knowledge - so you clearly don't read very much.

What was he Gagging on

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Nov 19, 2014

letsallsingtogether said:
What was he Gagging on

You are naive you mean you don't know

letsallsingtogether · Nov 19, 2014

Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
You are naive you mean you don't know

Should have called this tread what ever happened to likely lads. way hay man

dongonzalos · Nov 19, 2014

So who was supposed to be behind the conspiracy to get Les out of the CET.

Grendel · Nov 19, 2014

dongonzalos said:
So who was supposed to be behind the conspiracy to get Les out of the CET.

He was employed by them until last month.

dongonzalos · Nov 19, 2014

Why would he do it though?

letsallsingtogether · Nov 19, 2014

dongonzalos said:
Why would he do it though?

Do what.

Hic!!

lewys33 · Nov 20, 2014

Everyone* loves a good conspiracy!

*Or in this case just Les Reid. Nobody else gives a fuck, nor do they believe his story.

Astute · Nov 20, 2014

He got into bed with SISU and fucked his career up. Unless you say that working for a local free rag is is a promotion.

torchomatic · Nov 20, 2014

Translated as he wrote stuff I didn't want to hear.

Astute said:
He got into bed with SISU and fucked his career up. Unless you say that working for a local free rag is is a promotion.

duffer · Nov 20, 2014

Astute said:
He got into bed with SISU and fucked his career up. Unless you say that working for a local free rag is is a promotion.

He didn't get into bed with SISU, that's a ridiculous assertion. At the worst, he offered a different interpretation on events - one that a number of people didn't much care for, and ever since then there's been a stack of bullshit seemingly implying he's been bought off in some way. That, frankly, is pretty offensive and in my book pretty cowardly.

If you don't like what he wrote, challenge it on it's merits with some evidence of your own - currently this is the equivalent of playing the man and not the ball.

As for why he left the CET, as I understand it the facts for that are coming up in a tribunal at some point.

The simple truth is, if want you want a free press, and for people close to things to offer an opinion, then sometimes you'll have to accept that opinion will vary from yours. You can take it on, and say why you differ, or you can hide behind the claim of bias or bribery or some other bollocks that saves actually having to make your own case based on the facts.

I met Les, not long after the JR, and we had a forthright debate about what went on the club. We differed hugely on some things, but what I picked up from it is that what he actually cared about was what was better for the City and CCFC, rather than what looked better for the council. On that basis, he was to some degree saying that doing a deal with SISU, however repugnant, might be the best way forward.

Personally, though I differed in some parts, I could respect and understand that point of view. He certainly wasn't a SISU mouthpiece in my eyes.

As for him no longer working at the telegraph, that's to no one's benefit. You need journalists who are willing to look beyond the accepted facts and properly scrutinise things, especially political decisions. (I'm not suggesting for a moment by the way that Simon Gilbert doesn't try to do that too). Maybe the tribunal will offer some real clarity as to what happened at the CET.

duffer · Nov 20, 2014

torchomatic said:
Translated as he wrote stuff I didn't want to hear.

Basically, that's the way that I see it. It's just that you can make the point in one sentence.

Grendel · Nov 20, 2014

duffer said:
Basically, that's the way that I see it. It's just that you can make the point in one sentence.

Astute will soon say you've been bought by sisu.

"You used to know the truth now you don't know it"

letsallsingtogether · Nov 20, 2014

torchomatic said:
Translated as he wrote stuff I didn't want to hear.

Or Translated something you and your cronies could have read together in a darkened room and creamed over

And anyway had nothing whatsoever to do with a story. However he has ruined his own career, so no need for me to go any further on a forum site?

torchomatic · Nov 20, 2014

My cronies? FFS, you're getting worse. Why did he ruin his own career? Tell me what he did to do that? IS it because he dared to criticise the council?

letsallsingtogether said:
Or Translated something you and your cronies could have read together in a darkened room and creamed over

And anyway had nothing whatsoever to do with a story. However he has ruined his own career, so no need for me to go any further on a forum site?

GingerSimon · Nov 20, 2014

Ricohgate

To be fair to Mr Reid, the EVIL COUNCIL did seem to more or less follow his valuation of ACL and also his notion that club and stadium should be united under one owner when they offloaded to EVIL WASPS. Deserves another award for that in my opinion.

If he is looking to step up from the Coventry Observer I think the Earlsdon Echo is looking for a new reporter.

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