What do you mean we've stolen points at home? Thats not true at all.
This is what pisses me off, stolen points at home, absolute bollocks, we've deserved every one.
Just criticising the away form should be enough because it's poor but you have to have a snide comment about the home form. Give it a fucking rest.
Very very late winners, not that the results were undeserved. As in ‘snatched at the death’
Thats not what you meant with the "stolen" remark- but ok.
What do you think I meant? It’s a common enough expression ‘they stole the points at the death’. If you want to play semantics create a new account and we can debate it some more.
That’s a bit OTT, I just meant we’d won games very very late which I see as a bit of a bonus. Perhaps you should ‘give it a rest’
What do you think I meant? It’s a common enough expression ‘they stole the points at the death’. If you want to play semantics create a new account and we can debate it some more.
You meant what you always do- over the top negativity. Trying to drag the home form into it and cast a shadow over that as well. Now you're backtracking because its something you are well known for. But each to their own.
Or I meant what I actually meant and have said about those 2 games often enough. It’s a tired stereotype and last night for example you had me praising a first half performance others were critical of. Wasn’t forecasting certain defeat for the game either. But yes I say ‘stolen’ rather than ‘snatched’ and it’s jumped on by the usual suspects.
While we’re at it admit you’re ROS before running away from that for the umpteenth time.
Its not a tired stereotype at all, you're one of the worst.
Well stolen is a very strange terminology.
And you've got previous.
Its not a tired stereotype at all, you're one of the worst.
MR can see what is wrong a the game unfolds and he should make substitutions early to negate the problem and if players see he will change players earlier than 85 minutes it might help them with their game planning (i.e boot up the bum)Thoughts?
Not sure personally but law of averages tells us we cant keep winning at home forever so we need to find a way to pick up points away
Man Ure have made a living out of doing exactly that, if we battle to the end WE DESERVE IT !!An injury time goal is asvalid as any other.
And it's not like we weren't dominating those games and piling on the pressure.
Was the same last season, everything good we did was some anomaly
We aren't massively over achieving - as I said on another thread budgets are not really an argument. Budgets are in essence wages and a lot of clubs in this league have players on high wages but zero value. Stoke have actually bought some players but a large element of their huge losses is tied up in over valued players whose values are now written down. Birmingham, Cardiff, Swansea will have high wages but poor players and little ability to operate in the transfer market.
People have said Dabo, Hamer, O Hare and Gyokeres are high values in the transfer market so the squad value is high
This is a circular argument. To say that ‘good players are high value, therefore our budget is high’ is to ignore both the good work we’ve done developing players, and that most of our key recruitment has been limited to free transfers.
We’ve been lucky that we’ve hit the mark with almost all of our signings when we’ve had some transfer fees to play with - other teams have the luxury of paying Hamer-esque fees for players who don’t even play (see our opponents last night and Tom Bayliss).
it’s not a circular argument
Care to elaborate?
https://giphy.com/IiBJyuzvrsOHuNot really it would develop into a circular argument
We aren't massively over achieving - as I said on another thread budgets are not really an argument. Budgets are in essence wages and a lot of clubs in this league have players on high wages but zero value. Stoke have actually bought some players but a large element of their huge losses is tied up in over valued players whose values are now written down. Birmingham, Cardiff, Swansea will have high wages but poor players and little ability to operate in the transfer market.
People have said Dabo, Hamer, O Hare and Gyokeres are high values in the transfer market so the squad value is high
We finished 8th in the Mowbray season and by your own argument was a brilliant season. We declined and we never recovered.
To finish 11 - 12 now would mean we are declining from the start and unless we have injuries to key players I do not see logically why we should.
He didn’t try to go past the defender at all. That was the worst thing about it last night
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