When are people going to understand (1 Viewer)

JonesBob · Mar 31, 2023

When are people going to understand we have a far superior management and coaching team than even some premiership clubs.

Some people are now saying we must sign McNally, and i must agree he is a potential star, however, as we see every season it is our coaching staff that get the best out of players. Over the past few season we have had Walsh, Clark-Salter and a few others who we think are indispensible only for them to move on and into oblivion, or near to.
Even our stars, Gus, Vik and Ohare may find it difficult to move on to another team as they will have to fit into another system, that doesn't always suit the individual.
It is our coaching team that is making the difference and even if we took an average championship player I think given time they can get him to produce.

Saddlebrains · Mar 31, 2023

No way, Robins Viveash and Lawrence are all shit and we should replace them with Kenny Jackett and Michael Doyle in my view

Bad Boy · Mar 31, 2023

JonesBob said:
When are people going to understand we have a far superior management and coaching team than even some premiership clubs.

Some people are now saying we must sign McNally, and i must agree he is a potential star, however, as we see every season it is our coaching staff that get the best out of players. Over the past few season we have had Walsh, Clark-Salter and a few others who we think are indispensible only for them to move on and into oblivion, or near to.
Even our stars, Gus, Vik and Ohare may find it difficult to move on to another team as they will have to fit into another system, that doesn't always suit the individual.
It is our coaching team that is making the difference and even if we took an average championship player I think given time they can get him to produce.

Fair points made.
Look thought that many of our 'star' players (in recent times) have gone to greener grass and failed.

Sky Blue Pete · Mar 31, 2023

JonesBob said:
When are people going to understand we have a far superior management and coaching team than even some premiership clubs.

Some people are now saying we must sign McNally, and i must agree he is a potential star, however, as we see every season it is our coaching staff that get the best out of players. Over the past few season we have had Walsh, Clark-Salter and a few others who we think are indispensible only for them to move on and into oblivion, or near to.
Even our stars, Gus, Vik and Ohare may find it difficult to move on to another team as they will have to fit into another system, that doesn't always suit the individual.
It is our coaching team that is making the difference and even if we took an average championship player I think given time they can get him to produce.

Yep some have stayed injured
Real balance across those ‘stars’ that have left

Maddison
Wilson
Mccallum
Stevenson
Bayliss

So 2 hits
1 jury out
2 duds

Boosh · Mar 31, 2023

Sky Blue Pete said:
Yep some have stayed injured
Real balance across those ‘stars’ that have left

Maddison
Wilson
Mccallum
Stevenson
Bayliss

So 2 hits
1 jury out
2 duds

Not sure you can say the jury is out on Mccallum and Bayliss is playing well for Shrewsbury. Stevenson is going to have a full career in the football league albeit not as high as some thought. Your assessment there is extremely negative

rob9872 · Mar 31, 2023

Sky Blue Pete said:
Yep some have stayed injured
Real balance across those ‘stars’ that have left

Maddison
Wilson
Mccallum
Stevenson
Bayliss

So 2 hits
1 jury out
2 duds

Add McNulty, Bright, Sterling Walsh and James too. All did well here and not since. Arguably even Biamou, I know he split opinions and probably wasn't up to the level but the management got the best from him and he should've been good enough for L1 or L2 since.

Conversely Clarke'Harris good everywhere apart from us but not sure we ever played to his strengths.

Boosh · Mar 31, 2023

rob9872 said:
Add McNulty, Bright, Sterling Walsh and James too. All did well here and not since. Arguably even Biamou, I know he split opinions and probably wasn't up to the level but the management got the best from him and he should've been good enough for L1 or L2 since.

Conversely Clarke'Harris good everywhere apart from us but not sure we ever played to his strengths.

Sterling is playing regularly at a higher level than he did with us, James and Biamou were shite. Walsh will end up in the championship if he sorts his fitness issues out. Bright came back here and couldn’t find his form again so can’t count that one either

Happy_Martian · Mar 31, 2023

JonesBob said:
When are people going to understand we have a far superior management and coaching team than even some premiership clubs.

Some people are now saying we must sign McNally, and i must agree he is a potential star...

Fair comments all. The only point I would address is to those who say we have to sign McNally. Yes, as Bob says, he's a future star in the making but as Burnley are on their way up and he signed a new contract before he came here, I can envisage that his performances here will have put more than a few 0s on any price tag he may have. So unless we sell someone like O'Hare or Vik and pump all that money into getting McNally, a perm is dead in the water. And of course, that's if Burnley wish to sell anyway.

As a few have said about Vik... "Enjoy him while we've got him."

Frostie · Mar 31, 2023

JonesBob said:
When are people going to understand we have a far superior management and coaching team than even some premiership clubs.

Some people are now saying we must sign McNally, and i must agree he is a potential star, however, as we see every season it is our coaching staff that get the best out of players. Over the past few season we have had Walsh, Clark-Salter and a few others who we think are indispensible only for them to move on and into oblivion, or near to.
Even our stars, Gus, Vik and Ohare may find it difficult to move on to another team as they will have to fit into another system, that doesn't always suit the individual.
It is our coaching team that is making the difference and even if we took an average championship player I think given time they can get him to produce.

The recruitment team too. They have to find these players that fit with the way that Robins wants to play - not an easy task

rob9872 · Mar 31, 2023

Boosh said:
Sterling is playing regularly at a higher level than he did with us, James and Biamou were shite. Walsh will end up in the championship if he sorts his fitness issues out. Bright came back here and couldn’t find his form again so can’t count that one either

James wasn't shite and neither was Max, just not good enough for Championship. Dujon has played 50 games in 4 years since leaving us. Nobody got a tune out of Bright before or after Robins.

Sbarcher · Mar 31, 2023

We got him on a free….. etc.

Boosh · Mar 31, 2023

rob9872 said:
James wasn't shite and neither was Max, just not good enough for Championship. Dujon has played 50 games in 4 years since leaving us. Nobody got a tune out of Bright before or after Robins.

So they weren’t good enough for the championship with robins and aren’t without him? Agreed

Sterling played regularly for us in league one and now plays regularly in the championship.

Bright had done well for Wolves before going to Kilmarnock where he was poor but at a better level than league one. He’s never returned to league one since to see how well he would do

Sky Blue Pete · Mar 31, 2023

Boosh said:
Not sure you can say the jury is out on Mccallum and Bayliss is playing well for Shrewsbury. Stevenson is going to have a full career in the football league albeit not as high as some thought. Your assessment there is extremely negative

Ok
Bayliss left for a championship club served out his contract and then moved to a lower level - success huh?
Stevenson left for a championship club and had to move to a league 2 team to get games - success huh?
McCallum - not really played regular football and loaned to a rival championship club - I don’t think can be hailed as a success really?

Stop being contrary for the sake of it

Sky Blue Pete · Mar 31, 2023

rob9872 said:
Add McNulty, Bright, Sterling Walsh and James too. All did well here and not since. Arguably even Biamou, I know he split opinions and probably wasn't up to the level but the management got the best from him and he should've been good enough for L1 or L2 since.

Conversely Clarke'Harris good everywhere apart from us but not sure we ever played to his strengths.

Great shouts

Boosh · Mar 31, 2023

Sky Blue Pete said:
Ok
Bayliss left for a championship club served out his contract and then moved to a lower level - success huh?
Stevenson left for a championship club and had to move to a league 2 team to get games - success huh?
McCallum - not really played regular football and loaned to a rival championship club - I don’t think can be hailed as a success really?

Stop being contrary for the sake of it

Bayliss is playing well at the same level as he was for us.

Stevenson is playing well at the same level as he was for us.

Mcallum plays for a far better team at the same level as us.

I fail to see where these players have crashed without robins?

Boosh · Mar 31, 2023

A far better example is Zain Westbrooke

Sky Blue Pete · Mar 31, 2023

Boosh said:
A far better example is Zain Westbrooke

We didn’t sell him for lots of money

Samo · Mar 31, 2023

JonesBob said:
When are people going to understand we have a far superior management and coaching team than even some premiership clubs.

Some people are now saying we must sign McNally, and i must agree he is a potential star, however, as we see every season it is our coaching staff that get the best out of players. Over the past few season we have had Walsh, Clark-Salter and a few others who we think are indispensible only for them to move on and into oblivion, or near to.
Even our stars, Gus, Vik and Ohare may find it difficult to move on to another team as they will have to fit into another system, that doesn't always suit the individual.
It is our coaching team that is making the difference and even if we took an average championship player I think given time they can get him to produce.

Fair point but no need for the condescending title

Boosh · Mar 31, 2023

Sky Blue Pete said:
We didn’t sell him for lots of money

What does the money have to do with whether they’ve regressed without our coaching team? Or have you totally misunderstood the thread?

Great_Expectations · Mar 31, 2023

Saddlebrains said:
No way, Robins Viveash and Lawrence are all shit and we should replace them with Kenny Jackett and Michael Doyle in my view

Sad thing is, we all know it’ll only take a few bad results - whatever league we’re in next year - and the MR out narrative will start again.

mmttww · Mar 31, 2023

Thread isn't about Miley Cyrus' dad.

Disappointed.

covboy9 · Mar 31, 2023

Boosh said:
Not sure you can say the jury is out on Mccallum and Bayliss is playing well for Shrewsbury. Stevenson is going to have a full career in the football league albeit not as high as some thought. Your assessment there is extremely negative

Stevenson is a dud

covboy9 · Mar 31, 2023

rob9872 said:
Add McNulty, Bright, Sterling Walsh and James too. All did well here and not since. Arguably even Biamou, I know he split opinions and probably wasn't up to the level but the management got the best from him and he should've been good enough for L1 or L2 since.

Conversely Clarke'Harris good everywhere apart from us but not sure we ever played to his strengths.

Goals or not Clarke Harris is shite

covboy9 · Mar 31, 2023

Boosh said:
A far better example is Zain Westbrooke

I rated him

rob9872 · Mar 31, 2023

covboy9 said:
Goals or not Clarke Harris is shite

96 in 183 since leaving says he isnt. You might not like him, I'm not a fan, but can't say he's shite.

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 31, 2023

Burnley v Sunderland a decent game

Evo1883 · Mar 31, 2023

Boosh said:
Bayliss is playing well at the same level as he was for us.

Stevenson is playing well at the same level as he was for us.

Mcallum plays for a far better team at the same level as us.

I fail to see where these players have crashed without robins?

Norwich are on the same points as us btw

Boosh · Mar 31, 2023

Evo1883 said:
Norwich are on the same points as us btw

Not as of when he left us but yeah I take your point

SBAndy · Mar 31, 2023

Boosh said:
Bayliss is playing well at the same level as he was for us.

Stevenson is playing well at the same level as he was for us.

Mcallum plays for a far better team at the same level as us.

I fail to see where these players have crashed without robins?

Fair to say their development curve has flattened after leaving.

Back to the original post, though, McNally is a great opportunity and will have considerable resale value if we were to sign him permanently.

letsallsingtogether · Apr 1, 2023

Boosh said:
Not as of when he left us but yeah I take your point

So your saying is he made them worse!

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Apr 1, 2023

Frostie said:
The recruitment team too. They have to find these players that fit with the way that Robins wants to play - not an easy task

It's almost a poem.

I know you continuously try to flex on here that you're an accessory of said recruitment department, but it is very transparent and getting a bit boring. They've made some absolutely shocking signings which have made things so difficult for us. Overall, there is very limited credit going to them in the last two years or so, with only in turn adds more weight towards the management team; given they have had to get so much out of both limited resources and the poor recommendations which have been presented to them.

Frostie · Apr 1, 2023

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
It's almost a poem.

I know you continuously try to flex on here that you're an accessory of said recruitment department, but it is very transparent and getting a bit boring. They've made some absolutely shocking signings which have made things so difficult for us. Overall, there is very limited credit going to them in the last two years or so, with only in turn adds more weight towards the management team; given they have had to get so much out of both limited resources and the poor recommendations which have been presented to them.

This management team?

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Why is Robins such a fucking retard?

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Apr 1, 2023

Frostie said:
This management team?

That post is from February 2021 (over two years ago) in a game where he took two of our best players off. If you are clawing that far to grab a smoking gun, it just makes it even more laughable the lengths you would go to in order to deflect attention. It actually looks like it's impossible to underestimate you.

We joke on this forum about alarms going off, but any time the recruitment team is mentioned, you are here in record time. I'm not sure if you are a fan girl, or just want to be mates with one of the old Badlan crew. Either way, it's boring, predictable, and epitomises you as a poster. They let the management down massively, and in the last few seasons we've been even more up against it due to their incompetence.

If I were you, I would stick to collecting stats from sixth former twitter accounts. You might have a speck more credibility from that, incredibly.

Frostie · Apr 1, 2023

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
That post is from February 2021 (over two years ago) in a game where he took two of our best players off. If you are clawing that far to grab a smoking gun, it just makes it even more laughable the lengths you would go to in order to deflect attention. It actually looks like it's impossible to underestimate you.

We joke on this forum about alarms going off, but any time the recruitment team is mentioned, you are here in record time. I'm not sure if you are a fan girl, or just want to be mates with one of the old Badlan crew. Either way, it's boring, predictable, and epitomises you as a poster. They let the management down massively, and in the last few seasons we've been even more up against it due to their incompetence.

If I were you, I would stick to collecting stats from sixth former twitter accounts. You might have a speck more credibility from that, incredibly.

Boosh · Apr 1, 2023

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
That post is from February 2021 (over two years ago) in a game where he took two of our best players off. If you are clawing that far to grab a smoking gun, it just makes it even more laughable the lengths you would go to in order to deflect attention. It actually looks like it's impossible to underestimate you.

We joke on this forum about alarms going off, but any time the recruitment team is mentioned, you are here in record time. I'm not sure if you are a fan girl, or just want to be mates with one of the old Badlan crew. Either way, it's boring, predictable, and epitomises you as a poster. They let the management down massively, and in the last few seasons we've been even more up against it due to their incompetence.

If I were you, I would stick to collecting stats from sixth former twitter accounts. You might have a speck more credibility from that, incredibly.

His likes to post ratio compared to yours says it all. Pipe down

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