samccov1987
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Yes i can see Doug doing it if he didn’t he’d be admitting they ain’t up to it. Not sure Doug likes to admit he’s wrong.
Yes i can see Doug doing it if he didn’t he’d be admitting they ain’t up to it. Not sure Doug likes to admit he’s wrong.I’m sorry, promote George boateng
Are you actually being serious???
Simms is a strange person to call out. What chances has he missed? I’m sorry but strikers won’t do much if there’s no chances for them to score and 2024 of last season proved that he’ll finish chances he’s given.Robins reacting is not our biggest issue. We’re far too easy to score against and concede lots of very poor goals. That’s the issue. It’s his issue, he’s the manager. Don’t disagree we need to change shape, we’re horribly exposed down the flanks but we should be starting like that, not reacting with it. Simms abject form means we can play Wright centrally now and get some solidity in the midfield.
If robins left the new manager would want his own staffYes i can see Doug doing it if he didn’t he’d be admitting they ain’t up to it. Not sure Doug likes to admit he’s wrong.
You’re having a laugh surely, no one should be given long enough to relegate us don’t care who they are or what they’ve done for us in the past , when times up it’s up .He deserves the season…. It’s not even quarter gone yet!!!
Okay, things are going greatThe need for Pampers is strong on here tonight.
Simms is a box player, we don’t create anythingSimms is a strange person to call out. What chances has he missed? I’m sorry but strikers won’t do much if there’s no chances for them to score and 2024 of last season proved that he’ll finish chances he’s given.
Bassette has this really positive fanfare atm because he’s shown decent glimpses and looks busy. He’s scored no goals. Likewise, BTA looks busier but only scored one goal, the same as Simms.
If we were creating lots of good chances and strikers were missing them, by all means, they deserve criticism. If we’re not creating chances, the blame lies elsewhere.
Not just that, he just doesn’t suit the Solo striker role imo. Last year with Callum’s work rate I think he got away a bit more and was allowed to be a poacher but now, think he struggles to do the work needed.Simms is a box player, we don’t create anything
no blame attached to simms
Take it you were at a different match to me. We went ahead against the run of play. Were second best over most of the field. Yes we had a good 20 minutes towards the end of the second half but if we’d won that it wouldn’t have been deserved. Maybe a draw was a fair result but I think your kidding yourself.Judgment is ongoing game by game. That’s football. Lots of absolute crap about how he should have “changed things” today. There only looked like one winner today and we were sucker punched at the end. There was no need to change it. We could be playing better but it’s fine margins costing us. Robins is safe as houses for me, and so he should be.
Yes and I can’t see Doug paying them all off. I think he’d give the current coaching setup a go first before having to acknowledge it’s wank.If robins left the new manager would want his own staff
It’s clear that Robins isn’t happy with players taking the ‘easy options’ which is probably aimed at the wide players and midfielders. Too often we pass backwards and don’t risk putting the ball in dangerous areas until the opposition has 10 men behind the ball.It’s getting harder to defend his position with each performance, but he is not the only one responsible. Some of these players are just not performing even allowing for questionable decisions above.
Not sure I said that either but this is our first real spot of adversity in the last 4 years so let’s just take a breath I think.Okay, things are going great
Look at the results over the last 20 games. It's not great .Not sure I said that either but this is our first real spot of adversity in the last 4 years so let’s just take a breath I think.
It’s clear that Robins isn’t happy with players taking the ‘easy options’ which is probably aimed at the wide players and midfielders. Too often we pass backwards and don’t risk putting the ball in dangerous areas until the opposition has 10 men behind the ball.
I do think the biggest issue in our team attacking wise is that Eccles-Sheaf axis, they do v similar things. Personally, I think we need a CM that is more box-to-box, can carry the ball and gets more G/As. They both sit deep and spray the ball horizontally, there’s little penetration.
It starts at the back. The defenders all taking 3 or 4 touches to move the ball anywhere, usually sideways. It then either gets lumped forward or passed to a midfielder who’s then under immediate pressure himself. All the while nobody is moving off the ball to give someone an option.It’s clear that Robins isn’t happy with players taking the ‘easy options’ which is probably aimed at the wide players and midfielders. Too often we pass backwards and don’t risk putting the ball in dangerous areas until the opposition has 10 men behind the ball.
I do think the biggest issue in our team attacking wise is that Eccles-Sheaf axis, they do v similar things. Personally, I think we need a CM that is more box-to-box, can carry the ball and gets more G/As. They both sit deep and spray the ball horizontally, there’s little penetration.
Robins should be embarrassed by the way Rohl out thought him today. Difficult to believe that I'm posting that but sadly it's true.It starts at the back. The defenders all taking 3 or 4 touches to move the ball anywhere, usually sideways. It then either gets lumped forward or passed to a midfielder who’s then under immediate pressure himself. All the while nobody is moving off the ball to give someone an option.
This is not how playing out from the back is supposed to go if done properly. Today the opposition were advancing the ball in one or two touches, making well timed runs in behind the back which sometimes worked, sometimes the pass was miscued but I liked what I saw.
If they had players who could finish it would have been a hammering. Röhl has got his team playing how we are aspiring to but are nowhere near. And he’s doing it with a 50 year old Bannan at the heart of midfield.
It starts at the back. The defenders all taking 3 or 4 touches to move the ball anywhere, usually sideways. It then either gets lumped forward or passed to a midfielder who’s then under immediate pressure himself. All the while nobody is moving off the ball to give someone an option.
This is not how playing out from the back is supposed to go if done properly. Today the opposition were advancing the ball in one or two touches, making well timed runs in behind the back which sometimes worked, sometimes the pass was miscued but I liked what I saw.
If they had players who could finish it would have been a hammering. Röhl has got his team playing how we are aspiring to but are nowhere near. And he’s doing it with a 50 year old Bannan at the heart of midfield.
No out thinking really, just a much better coached team playing a more expensively assembled one off the pitch for most of the game.Robins should be embarrassed by the way Rohl out thought him today. Difficult to believe that I'm posting that but sadly it's true.
The major difference is though that he has nothing to spend.No out thinking really, just a much better coached team playing a more expensively assembled one off the pitch for most of the game.
He needs to sign better finishers though, it should have been 5 or 6 but they’ve squeezed through and somehow avoided two blatant red cards on top.
The point is we are just miles away from where we need to be and have quickly turned from a team that was more than the sum of its parts into a Stoke tribute act. Stoke don’t get any better by constantly sacking the manager though and have a bottomless pit of money to spend.Agree, it does start from the back but we had the same issues with Lati and Binks on the ball who to be fair to them, advance the ball better than Thomas and Kitching. Eccles and Sheaf played in the 22/23 season, but they were not our primary playmakers and now they are. I honestly believe that a capable playmaker in the mould of Hamer would resolve a lot of our issues. Hamer was good enough defensively, but carried the ball through midfield (neither Eccles or Sheaf does this really) and he passes the ball behind defences. Wright, EMC, BTA and Simms are all quick players so we want them against defenders in foot races. Giving the ball to Wright around 1-2 people to take on and then cross isn’t going to optimise him. He’s not a tricky winger by trade like Sakamoto. The xG in our games speaks for itself, we’re creating next to no ‘big’ chances.
To be honest, I’m glad you brought up Bannan because it’s an example of what good experience and leadership can give a team.
I’ve got a feeling King may well be thinking this now.A lot of talk of relegation battles and Robins out. I’m honestly not sure how I feel on either, but interested to know when the judgement can be made? What is the sample size of matches? I’m tempted to say up to next international break, but it’s going to take some nerve to get there.
I keep asking myself as to whether the squad we have assembled isn't really that good or just badly coached and managedThe point is we are just miles away from where we need to be and have quickly turned from a team that was more than the sum of its parts into a Stoke tribute act. Stoke don’t get any better by constantly sacking the manager though and have a bottomless pit of money to spend.
I don’t know what the solution is for us but I would start by banning players from going abroad for international friendlies and double their training workload to just focus on passing and movement.
In some kind of weird symbolic moment I think an embarrassment at the hands of Luton will be the final straw for King.
A bit of both I’d imagine, but if we’re being honest this group of players have really only been good for a spell of about 12 or so games.I keep asking myself as to whether the squad we have assembled isn't really that good or just badly coached and managed
It isn’t as good as it was being made out to be, but it also shouldn’t be struggling to this extent. It’s a top half squad in my view.I keep asking myself as to whether the squad we have assembled isn't really that good or just badly coached and managed
I've muted him the bollocks he talks is unrealYou really have no fucking clue
Judgment is ongoing game by game. That’s football. Lots of absolute crap about how he should have “changed things” today. There only looked like one winner today and we were sucker punched at the end. There was no need to change it. We could be playing better but it’s fine margins costing us. Robins is safe as houses for me, and so he should be.
Calm down. Try a bit of consistency rather than over dramatising completely normal events.You really have no fucking clue
And they say irony is dying out.I've muted him the bollocks he talks is unreal
I mean your take on the game was pretty absurd to be fairAnd they say irony is dying out.
The point is we are just miles away from where we need to be and have quickly turned from a team that was more than the sum of its parts into a Stoke tribute act. Stoke don’t get any better by constantly sacking the manager though and have a bottomless pit of money to spend.
I don’t know what the solution is for us but I would start by banning players from going abroad for international friendlies and double their training workload to just focus on passing and movement.
In some kind of weird symbolic moment I think an embarrassment at the hands of Luton will be the final straw for King.
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