Whiff of Desperation, something happening? (16 Viewers)

Nick · Mar 7, 2019

SBAndy said:
Where you seen that? If it’s on twitter can you link to the tweets as I don’t use it.

A couple of posts on here (See the Henry Winter one) and the general impression of the Telegraph Campaign.

Before the accounts were filed, there was a bit of a smug tone about people thinking they wouldn't be filed. They went in and the tide changed a bit, then the Telegraph got "briefed" again to stir things up

Have a feeling people will be calling on the EFL to stop a move and to force play at the Ricoh or the club be handed to somebody else. (I wonder who?)

(Just a general feeling of how it might play out)

SkyBlueCRJ · Mar 7, 2019

Nick said:
A couple of posts on here (See the Henry Winter one) and the general impression of the Telegraph Campaign.

Before the accounts were filed, there was a bit of a smug tone about people thinking they wouldn't be filed. They went in and the tide changed a bit, then the Telegraph got "briefed" again to stir things up

Have a feeling people will be calling on the EFL to stop a move and to force play at the Ricoh or the club be handed to somebody else. (I wonder who?)

(Just a general feeling of how it might play out)

The EFL neither have the authority or the balls to do this though do they?

Nick · Mar 7, 2019

JamesCCFC said:
The EFL neither have the authority or the balls to do this though do they?

Don't think that will matter when the local media have been drafted in to get everybody worked up and take the heat off particular sides

Facts and reality are a sideshow.

SBAndy · Mar 7, 2019

Nick said:
A couple of posts on here (See the Henry Winter one) and the general impression of the Telegraph Campaign.

Before the accounts were filed, there was a bit of a smug tone about people thinking they wouldn't be filed. They went in and the tide changed a bit, then the Telegraph got "briefed" again to stir things up

Have a feeling people will be calling on the EFL to stop a move and to force play at the Ricoh or the club be handed to somebody else. (I wonder who?)

(Just a general feeling of how it might play out)

That wouldn’t surprise me one jot. Tin foil hats at the ready, team (can’t believe there’s no tin foil hat emoji!)

MusicDating · Mar 7, 2019

SBAndy said:
That wouldn’t surprise me one jot. Tin foil hats at the ready, team (can’t believe there’s no tin foil hat emoji!)

I wouldn't say team, more an ever increasing number of fans who can see through the agenda of others. The only 'agenda' should be getting us a deal to play at the Ricoh next season.

Nick · Mar 7, 2019

MusicDating said:
I wouldn't say team, more an ever increasing number of fans who can see through the agenda of others. The only 'agenda' should be getting us a deal to play at the Ricoh next season.

Exactly.

Of course that's the main priority for most.

Sadly, there are a lot of agendas and strings pulled. The Telegraph being the most obvious recent one. That is more than obvious.

SBAndy · Mar 7, 2019

MusicDating said:
I wouldn't say team, more an ever increasing number of fans who can see through the agenda of others. The only 'agenda' should be getting us a deal to play at the Ricoh next season.

More a figure of speech than any kind of insinuation. FWIW I fully agree with your stance, and would consider myself part of said ‘team’.

Nick · Mar 7, 2019

Silence from Sisu continues
Yesterday, we asked Sisu and EFL boss Shaun Harvey for an interview.

As yet, they have not responded.

We will be asking again today.

It is going to get more and more obvious I think!

Otis · Mar 7, 2019

Nick said:
Looks as if the approach now that the accounts are in is to try and get the EFL to take the golden share to hand it over to somebody else. Seen a few rumblings so far.

Won't be long until the Telegraph Campaign is full on part of Wasps / CCC PR.

Won't Sisu just appeal against that and then we'd have a Golden Share court case part 1, then Golden Share appeal and then part 2, then appeal, then supreme court etc. etc.

Then Fisher will be saying we will be building our own golden share in three weeks.

Colin Steins Smile · Mar 7, 2019

I have a concern that if Wasps do backdown on doing a deal with our club that the terms would be so punitive we couldn't possibly accept. Hence, Wasps would be able to say, we offered the club deal and they refused it!

Nick · Mar 7, 2019

Colin Steins Smile said:
I have a concern that if Wasps do backdown on doing a deal with our club that the terms would be so punitive we couldn't possibly accept. Hence, Wasps would be able to say, we offered the club deal and they refused it!

It would have the Trust and the Telegraph spinning the shit out of it regardless.

The same people who swooned all over Wasps would then be going mad about us moving for a groundshare.

Nick · Mar 7, 2019

mark82 · Mar 7, 2019

Nick said:

The EFL can take the golden share away, but it would mean expulsion from the league (that is the whole point of the vote). What it wouldn't mean is that Sisu don't still own Coventry City. Not sure why people think taking the golden share away would mean a change of ownership.

ajsccfc · Mar 7, 2019

If a deacon is asking for a friend, I take that to mean God is curious about it. Nice to see we're being thought of up there

Nick · Mar 7, 2019

mark82 said:
The EFL can take the golden share away, but it would mean expulsion from the league (that is the whole point of the vote). What it wouldn't mean is that Sisu don't still own Coventry City. Not sure why people think taking the golden share away would mean a change of ownership.

People aren't given the facts intentionally. Fed little bits of a scrap and left to make the rest up.

This is my point in threads like the Henry Winter one where the aim is to get people worked up but not really inform them of anything.

All we need is somebody who is willing to be passed the golden share now and then the "campaign" can go all out.

Magwitch · Mar 7, 2019

Think I have heard today on radio the EFL will look at ground share options over 6 miles if there’s exasperating circumstances, I’d think nowhere to play would be a definite. What we need to know is what are the alternative venues I would have thought our local media would be asking

Nick · Mar 7, 2019

Magwitch said:
Think I have heard today on radio the EFL will look at ground share options over 6 miles if there’s exasperating circumstances, I’d think nowhere to play would be a definite. What we need to know is what are the alternative venues I would have thought our local media would be asking

No, the local media are only interested in sorting out the Council and Wasps again whilst getting their name on things.

Instead of calling them all pricks and trying to force a deal between them all for CCFC it is all just aimless stuff to take the heat off particular sides and aim it at one side. Don't get me wrong they deserve heat to be on them, it's just obvious what the Telegraph are doing as they do it far too often.

chiefdave · Mar 7, 2019

If they did take away the golden share, which they won't, do these people realise what that would actually entail? Taking the golden share and handing it over to Hoffman doesn't bring anything else across. The manager, players, staff, academy and Ryton would still be under Otium.

Nick · Mar 7, 2019

chiefdave said:
If they did take away the golden share, which they won't, do these people realise what that would actually entail? Taking the golden share and handing it over to Hoffman doesn't bring anything else across. The manager, players, staff, academy and Ryton would still be under Otium.

The impression people seem to have is that the EFL can pick the club up and just hand it to somebody else.

This is where the press and people like the Trust should be correcting them so people aren't all thinking random different things like that.

Liquid Gold · Mar 7, 2019

Some of our fans are thick as pig shit

Monners · Mar 7, 2019

Liquid Gold said:
Some of our fans are thick as pig shit

Indeed.
Either that or they live in a fantasy land

Magwitch · Mar 7, 2019

Nick said:
The impression people seem to have is that the EFL can pick the club up and just hand it to somebody else.

This is where the press and people like the Trust should be correcting them so people aren't all thinking random different things like that.

Think we all know that can’t and won’t happen, love them or loathe them sisu are legitimate owners of the business (ccfc). Still think we need to wait until this appeal goes ahead

chiefdave said:
If they did take away the golden share, which they won't, do these people realise what that would actually entail? Taking the golden share and handing it over to Hoffman doesn't bring anything else across. The manager, players, staff, academy and Ryton would still be under Otium.

Not sure you are totally correct there Ryton yes, any staff would probably be redundant not sure about Acadamy and players contracts would have to be paid up and I think the FA take charge of them

ajsccfc · Mar 7, 2019

The Golden Share always sounds more dramatic than it actually is, like it's something Indiana Jones would unearth with the Nazis hot on his heels.

Nick · Mar 7, 2019

City Fans obviously don't know though, you only have to have a look at some of the nonsense that people come out with like those examples.

Then you add to that Fans groups and local media who mislead and give snippets of information rather than the full picture.

Liquid Gold · Mar 7, 2019

Magwitch said:
Think we all know that can’t and won’t happen, love them or loathe them sisu are legitimate owners of the business (ccfc). Still think we need to wait until this appeal goes ahead

Not sure you are totally correct there Ryton yes, any staff would probably be redundant not sure about Acadamy and players contracts would have to be paid up and I think the FA take charge of them

Obviously not when every village idiot in Cov & Warks is on social media claiming the opposite.

Nick · Mar 7, 2019

Liquid Gold said:
Obviously not when every village idiot in Cov & Warks is on social media claiming the opposite.

You only have to see the stuff Gilbert comes out with when questioned. For example pointing out to him that PWKH was allowed to reel off a load of shite.

It's good that the information reported and available has informed you and allowed you to form an opinion. That's what we're here for.

It isn't a case of just giving out certain bits of information they want people to see and letting them decide. Give them the full story and let them decide.

It's intentional...

Otis · Mar 7, 2019

ajsccfc said:
If a deacon is asking for a friend, I take that to mean God is curious about it. Nice to see we're being thought of up there

Worse still, we now have a member of Depeche Mode involved as well.

What next, Sting, the Pope and Vernon Kay?

skyblue025 · Mar 7, 2019

Magwitch said:
Think I have heard today on radio the EFL will look at ground share options over 6 miles if there’s exasperating circumstances, I’d think nowhere to play would be a definite. What we need to know is what are the alternative venues I would have thought our local media would be asking

It's looking less likely we will be at the Ricoh next year.

Where would be a realistic option? League clubs within a reasonable distance using Northampton as a distance marker.

Birmingham
West Brom
The Vile
Wolves
Walsall
Northampton
Burton
Leicester

Would any of them help us out of are we looking at non league?

ajsccfc · Mar 7, 2019

Otis said:
Worse still, we now have a member of Depeche Mode involved as well.

What next, Sting, the Pope and Vernon Kay?

'We asked 100 people whether there will be a happy ending to all this bollocks, the survey said...'

chiefdave · Mar 7, 2019

Magwitch said:
Not sure you are totally correct there Ryton yes, any staff would probably be redundant not sure about Acadamy and players contracts would have to be paid up and I think the FA take charge of them

How can the FA take charge of them? Otium is a business that employs people. The golden share being taken away doesn't change that. Otium the business still exists and it still has employees. They can choose to make people redundant but they don't have to. Any assets owned by Otium will remain owned by Otium.

Otis · Mar 7, 2019

ajsccfc said:
'We asked 100 people whether there will be a happy ending to all this bollocks, the survey said...'

Best solution is for us to get expelled from the league, Wasps to buy us and for us to then start 8 leagues below.

Nick · Mar 7, 2019

Otis said:
Best solution is for us to get expelled from the league, Wasps to buy us and for us to then start 8 leagues below.

You joke about it.....

torchomatic · Mar 7, 2019

Magwitch said:
Think I have heard today on radio the EFL will look at ground share options over 6 miles if there’s exasperating circumstances, I’d think nowhere to play would be a definite. What we need to know is what are the alternative venues I would have thought our local media would be asking

Exasperating circumstances?

torchomatic · Mar 7, 2019

Otis said:
Worse still, we now have a member of Depeche Mode involved as well.

What next, Sting, the Pope and Vernon Kay?

I think Limahl and Mark King are just about to make a statement.

block16 · Mar 7, 2019

Unfortunately we have a lot of thick fans that can’t see through blatant agendas

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