Who Still Supports SISU? (1 Viewer)

pusbccfc · Jan 12, 2015

Take away the 'who would buy us' argument, who actually still supports what SISU are doing to this club and why?

The reason I ask, is that despite the incredibly low crowd tonight, once again very little protesting went on.

Samo · Jan 12, 2015

Did anyone? Ever?

WestEndAgro · Jan 12, 2015

:blue: Enough said

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Jan 12, 2015

Pretty much nobody, you may get the odd nut job like RFC but other than that I think almost everyone is against them. We're finished as a big club anyway, we will be languishing in the lower divisions for the next 20 years now.

Nick · Jan 12, 2015

Don't think anybody has for a while.

pusbccfc · Jan 12, 2015

Samo said:
Did anyone? Ever?

I bet there is a few who back them and think they can turn this around!

skybluedan · Jan 12, 2015

pusbccfc said:
Take away the 'who would buy us' argument, who actually still supports what SISU are doing to this club and why?

The reason I ask, is that despite the incredibly low crowd tonight, once again very little protesting went on.

Dont you know mate there is some exciting news coming in the new year

Como · Jan 13, 2015

Who would buy us?

Covcraig@bury · Jan 13, 2015

Everyone who goes to the home games/ Season ticket holders ect ect. NOPM .. Simples ...

Otis · Jan 13, 2015

skybluedan said:
Dont you know mate there is some exciting news coming in the new year

Which new year though?

If they ever were to build a new stadium, by the time it is built I think it would be very wise to make it a 5,000 capacity at best.

Ian1779 · Jan 13, 2015

Just think you are totally missing the point.

This has never been about whether you support SISU or not... it should be about supporting the team. The owners are secondary. But too many people have lost sight of that, and then irrationally blame the owners for everything.

For example:

Wasps owning the Ricoh - SISU, CCC, ACL & Higgs all to blame

Telling fans there is a new stadium coming but releasing fuck all in terms of detail - SISU's fault entirely

Last night's shower of shit - Pressley and the players.

If people want to be NOPM that's fine. If you think it will help the team or force the owners out then you are stupid.

Silence_Is_The_Enemy · Jan 13, 2015

think im like 3,000 others yesterday i think they are shite id much rather be run by someone else but im fully aware it isnt going to change anytime soon they have fucked us up to the point they are really our only option people will appear from time to time saying they want to buy us but one look at the books and they cant hit the M6 fast enough. the damage that has been done is going to take at least 10 - 20 years to fix if its fixable at all.

ajsccfc · Jan 13, 2015

Nobody supports them, despite any simples attempts at justifying how.

Danceswithhorses · Jan 13, 2015

pusbccfc said:
Take away the 'who would buy us' argument, who actually still supports what SISU are doing to this club and why?
The reason I ask, is that despite the incredibly low crowd tonight, once again very little protesting went on.

Protesting requires some passion, and a belief that you can at the very least, in a small way, influence future decision making.
When it's clear that you are being totally ignored, it's hard to justify the time and money you spend, especially if you have a family competing for said time and money.
Instead of protesting, people drift away from the club and attendances fall.

pusbccfc · Jan 13, 2015

Ian1779 said:
Just think you are totally missing the point.

This has never been about whether you support SISU or not... it should be about supporting the team. The owners are secondary. But too many people have lost sight of that, and then irrationally blame the owners for everything.

For example:

Wasps owning the Ricoh - SISU, CCC, ACL & Higgs all to blame

Telling fans there is a new stadium coming but releasing fuck all in terms of detail - SISU's fault entirely

Last night's shower of shit - Pressley and the players.

If people want to be NOPM that's fine. If you think it will help the team or force the owners out then you are stupid.

15,000 people have got fed up of supporting the team...

Otis · Jan 13, 2015

Ian1779 said:
Just think you are totally missing the point.

This has never been about whether you support SISU or not... it should be about supporting the team. The owners are secondary. But too many people have lost sight of that, and then irrationally blame the owners for everything.

For example:

Wasps owning the Ricoh - SISU, CCC, ACL & Higgs all to blame

Telling fans there is a new stadium coming but releasing fuck all in terms of detail - SISU's fault entirely

Last night's shower of shit - Pressley and the players.

If people want to be NOPM that's fine. If you think it will help the team or force the owners out then you are stupid.

Fair enough, but it was the owners who brought Pressley in and the owners who allowed him to bring in the players he has brought in.

Sisu can very much do something about who manages the team and trying to get a winning side out there on the field of play.

duffer · Jan 13, 2015

Danceswithhorses said:
Protesting requires some passion, and a belief that you can at the very least, in a small way, influence future decision making.
When it's clear that you are being totally ignored, it's hard to justify the time and money you spend, especially if you have a family competing for said time and money.
Instead of protesting, people drift away from the club and attendances fall.

Spot on - that's exactly what's happening imho. We're down to the hard core now, and even that's going to dwindle the longer we remain fiddling around at the bottom of a very poor division. I'd guess the majority of our fans have long since had enough of our owners but are simply resigned to it all.

Short of discovering another Callum Wilson in the youth team, it's hard to see what SISU's plan is to improve. At the moment it looks like it's all downhill from here...

hill83 · Jan 13, 2015

Anyone who is still saying 'simples' is an utter nonce.

Otis · Jan 13, 2015

Ian1779 said:
Just think you are totally missing the point.

This has never been about whether you support SISU or not... it should be about supporting the team. The owners are secondary. But too many people have lost sight of that, and then irrationally blame the owners for everything.

For example:

Wasps owning the Ricoh - SISU, CCC, ACL & Higgs all to blame

Telling fans there is a new stadium coming but releasing fuck all in terms of detail - SISU's fault entirely

Last night's shower of shit - Pressley and the players.

If people want to be NOPM that's fine. If you think it will help the team or force the owners out then you are stupid.

I also would like to add, it's not just quite so simple as just supporting the team.

Don't really want to speak on behalf of people, but I think there needs to always be a degree of hope and a light at the end of the tunnel for fans to grasp on to.

I go up and I don't mind us losing as long as we have competed, tried our best and at least given it a good go and been in the game.

I think walking out of the ground we should be all thinking in terms of 'if only that chance had gone in,' or 'with a bit of luck it could have been different,' or 'Just a coupple of players here and there and we won't be a bad side' etc.

We shouldn't be coming out game after game saying what a pile of sh*te that was and how hopeless it all looks and there seems to be no light at the end of the tunnel.

Even in defeat would should be looking for any glimmer of positivity in the game, rather than us all mocking our performances as a complete joke and clueless etc.

I think this has a great bearing on people going up and supporting the team. As I said, I don't mind us losing if we are least giving it a bit of a go and not looking like we play for a Sunday pub team and with players not seemingly arsed.

Big factor I think and of course there is the factor of entertainment. I have seen us lose 3-2, but it has been an exciting game and we have created lots of chances. I come out of the ground really disappointed, but at least it hasn't bored the pants off me and I have been able to say that is we play like that again the next game we will probably win.

I think everyone has a breaking point and on top of the owners, the Ricoh situation, the lack of new ground etc., there is also the product on the pitch and the quality of that product and the entertainment value too.
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Senior Vick from Alicante · Jan 13, 2015

Ian1779 said:
Just think you are totally missing the point.

This has never been about whether you support SISU or not... it should be about supporting the team. The owners are secondary. But too many people have lost sight of that, and then irrationally blame the owners for everything.

For example:

Wasps owning the Ricoh - SISU, CCC, ACL & Higgs all to blame

Telling fans there is a new stadium coming but releasing fuck all in terms of detail - SISU's fault entirely

Last night's shower of shit - Pressley and the players.

If people want to be NOPM that's fine. If you think it will help the team or force the owners out then you are stupid.

Sorry to disagree but the owners of most sporting clubs have to have a degree of ambition and a responsibility to the fans and followers and history of that club to try to improve that history and weave it even more in to the fabric of its community. The current incumbents have done nothing to enhance any of this, they have in fact done the complete opposite. Clubs from which ever sport are not a thing you can flip for a quick profit, they are living breathing entities that are driven by passion and community, these are not commodities that are bought and sold. Every thing you state Ian is a direct reflection of where our owners have taken us to, its not the stay away fans, council, Wasps, nor the players for that matter, they are the best we can afford. Its all down to the owners, but what team do you support when their are no players with the ability to keep us in the leagues?

italiahorse · Jan 13, 2015

Como said:
Who would buy us?

We are worth next to nothing.
Just put us on the market at that value and lets see.

It's nonsense to think that Sisu will get their money back now that the Ricoh will never be theirs.

italiahorse · Jan 13, 2015

Danceswithhorses said:
Protesting requires some passion, and a belief that you can at the very least, in a small way, influence future decision making.
When it's clear that you are being totally ignored, it's hard to justify the time and money you spend, especially if you have a family competing for said time and money.
Instead of protesting, people drift away from the club and attendances fall.

Exactly.
It's like being in a restaurant and being served a poor meal.
Some people complain whilst others don't like too and just never go back there.
Like Sixfields people see no progress and vote with their feet.

dongonzalos · Jan 13, 2015

Ian1779 said:
Just think you are totally missing the point.

This has never been about whether you support SISU or not... it should be about supporting the team. The owners are secondary. But too many people have lost sight of that, and then irrationally blame the owners for everything.

For example:

Wasps owning the Ricoh - SISU, CCC, ACL & Higgs all to blame

Telling fans there is a new stadium coming but releasing fuck all in terms of detail - SISU's fault entirely

Last night's shower of shit - Pressley and the players.

If people want to be NOPM that's fine. If you think it will help the team or force the owners out then you are stupid.

The only thing I would question on that Ian is how many managers and players have we had in the last 6 -7 years? Yet they have all failed.
How many different owners have we had?

It just kind of feels now like we are stuck with this situation or possibly league two. Until we see how Wasps are doing long term.

italiahorse · Jan 13, 2015

dongonzalos said:
The only thing I would question on that Ian is how many managers and players have we had in the last 6 -7 years? Yet they have all failed.
How many different owners have we had?

It just kind of feels now like we are stuck with this situation or possibly league two. Until we see how Wasps are doing long term.

Another one relying on Wasps failing so Sisu can continue in their attempt to get the Ricoh for nothing ?

Ashdown · Jan 13, 2015

Ian1779 said:
Just think you are totally missing the point.

This has never been about whether you support SISU or not... it should be about supporting the team. The owners are secondary. But too many people have lost sight of that, and then irrationally blame the owners for everything.

For example:

Wasps owning the Ricoh - SISU, CCC, ACL & Higgs all to blame

Telling fans there is a new stadium coming but releasing fuck all in terms of detail - SISU's fault entirely

Last night's shower of shit - Pressley and the players.

If people want to be NOPM that's fine. If you think it will help the team or force the owners out then you are stupid.

Ultimately all of it comes down to SISU FFS.
1, They've alienated the fanbase
2, They have no marketing strategy, club shop to speak of, decent ticketing staff
3, They gave bloody Pressley the 4 year deal
4, They dictate what is still a piss poor budget
5, They further send fans into a spin with their new stadium lies
6, They who fucked up the purchase of the Ricoh
7, And finally they who continue with this pointless court action

Oh and no doubt they who will post the accounts late again !

torchomatic · Jan 13, 2015

I get your point, but managers didn't fail before SISU came along then?

dongonzalos said:
The only thing I would question on that Ian is how many managers and players have we had in the last 6 -7 years? Yet they have all failed.
How many different owners have we had?

It just kind of feels now like we are stuck with this situation or possibly league two. Until we see how Wasps are doing long term.

dongonzalos · Jan 13, 2015

torchomatic said:
I get your point, but managers didn't fail before SISU came along then?

They did and some succeeded. How many have succeeded under their ownership?

Nick · Jan 13, 2015

dongonzalos said:
They did and some succeeded. How many have succeeded under their ownership?

Robins was quite good wasn't he?

skybluetony176 · Jan 13, 2015

Otis said:
Which new year though?

If they ever were to build a new stadium, by the time it is built I think it would be very wise to make it a 5,000 capacity at best.

That's their cunning plan. They're going to dwindle the attending supporter numbers down until it gets to a point where the stadium needs to be so small that they can affored to build it.

torchomatic · Jan 13, 2015

I can think of two who "succeeded" in over 50 years; Hill and Sillett. THe others either kept our heads above water, had patches of good form or, in Strachan's case "succeeded" in relegating us.

dongonzalos said:
They did and some succeeded. How many have succeeded under their ownership?

torchomatic · Jan 13, 2015

I think we reached that point about six years ago.

skybluetony176 said:
That's their cunning plan. They're going to dwindle the attending supporter numbers down until it gets to a point where the stadium needs to be so small that they can affored to build it.

stupot07 · Jan 13, 2015

dongonzalos said:
They did and some succeeded. How many have succeeded under their ownership?

Apart from Jimmy Hill and Sillet/Curtis, how many manager have succeeded at the club full stop?

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - so please excuse any spelling or grammar errors

italiahorse · Jan 13, 2015

Ian1779 said:
For example:

Wasps owning the Ricoh - SISU, CCC, ACL & Higgs all to blame
SISU 95% Others 5%
Telling fans there is a new stadium coming but releasing fuck all in terms of detail - SISU's fault entirely
SISU 100%
Last night's shower of shit - Pressley and the players.
SISU 95% for selling good players and influencing new players particularly loan players that SP doesn't want. Pressley 5% tactics.
If people want to be NOPM that's fine. If you think it will help the team or force the owners out then you are stupid.

I think NOPM has been replaced by NGAM (Not going anymore).

Nick · Jan 13, 2015

italiahorse said:
I think NOPM has been replaced by NGAM (Not going anymore).

I think your post there just pretty much sums up your blindness or failure to actually see things.

Well, until next week when they will be the polar opposite again.

skybluetony176 · Jan 13, 2015

I struggle to think of anything that has gone wrong at or for the club, on or off the pitch that hasn't started with a bad decision from SISU. What has followed you could argue was not SISU's doing on their own but they always seem to be the one's pulling the trigger.

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