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Deleted member 9744 · May 21, 2022

Grendel said:
If you take the Don Revie era out they won one title and nothing else really

You love this line of argument. It's like if you take away most of Biamou/Godden/anyone you don't like's goals away they haven't scored many goals. If you ignore the games we have won under Robins we have a terrible record.

SkyblueTexan · May 21, 2022

cov donkey kick said:
Think Leeds will be best placed of clubs relegated to bounce straight back as got quality for championship but not enough for premier League a bit like Fulham.

If they’re anything like Fulham, guess I’d be ok if we can smack ‘em 4-1 and 3-1 next season while they smack the others 6-0 and 7-0.

cov donkey kick · May 21, 2022

SkyblueTexan said:
If they’re anything like Fulham, guess I’d be ok if we can smack ‘em 4-1 and 3-1 next season while they smack the others 6-0 and 7-0.

Don't think they will take teams apart like Fulham did none of them coming down will.

Sky Blue Harry H · May 21, 2022

So, Leeds or Burnley, Sunderland or Wycombe.

Two massive fanbases, and two relatively small ones.

Next 2 days are going to be interesting, to say the least !

Advance guess, Sunderland to come up, and Leeds and Burnley to both lose tomorrow, so Leeds relegated. I'll put my crystal ball back in the drawer now!

Fergusons_Beard · May 21, 2022

Come on Wycombe!!!!!

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The Philosopher · May 21, 2022

If Leeds come down they’ll bring an extra, say, 4000 fans to the CBSA compared to Burnley for their match here.

Given that the tickets for away fans will be full price and a bit of F&B money then that might give us an extra £100k income. (Also, more home fans will want to watch us play Leeds over Burnley).

100k. Useful money.

For that reason and that alone, Leeds down.

Sunderland, same principle but probably £50k extra in income over Wycombe.

There’s a better chance also that those matches televised.

If that enables us to put an extra £3k / week towards a player’s wage then albeit small in the grand scheme of things…..

Leeds down please. Sunderland up.

Brighton Sky Blue · May 21, 2022

The Philosopher said:
If Leeds come down they’ll bring an extra, say, 4000 fans to the CBSA compared to Burnley for their match here.

Given that the tickets for away fans will be full price and a bit of F&B money then that might give us an extra £100k income. (Also, more home fans will want to watch us play Leeds over Burnley).

100k. Useful money.

For that reason and that alone, Leeds down.

Sunderland, same principle but probably £50k extra in income over Wycombe.

There’s a better chance also that those matches televised.

If that enables us to put an extra £3k / week towards a player’s wage then albeit small in the grand scheme of things…..

Leeds down please. Sunderland up.

I’d rather have a better chance at 12 points than a TV payday.

higgs · May 21, 2022

Wycombe and Blackpool and one other and we are safe for another season

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Moff · May 21, 2022

Brighton Sky Blue said:
I’d rather have a better chance at 12 points than a TV payday.

Same here. It’s Wycombe for me!

Happy_Martian · May 21, 2022

All this talk about Everton being safe, think the Prem League will look kindly at them but this can't be doing their fans any good ...

Leeds & Burnley want Premier League to order Everton not to delete data

Leeds and Burnley want Everton to be ordered not to delete any data or communication about commercial, sponsorship or transfer business.

www.bbc.co.uk

Grendel · May 21, 2022

Deleted member 9744 said:
You love this line of argument. It's like if you take away most of Biamou/Godden/anyone you don't like's goals away they haven't scored many goals. If you ignore the games we have won under Robins we have a terrible record.

Er no Leeds have spent less time in tbe top flight in their history than Burnley - 9 of the top 10 clubs are currently in the top flight

Other than that era Leeds have been pretty average abs underachieving

KenilworthSkyBlue · May 21, 2022

Happy_Martian said:
All this talk about Everton being safe, think the Prem League will look kindly at them but this can't be doing their fans any good ...

Leeds & Burnley want Premier League to order Everton not to delete data

Leeds and Burnley want Everton to be ordered not to delete any data or communication about commercial, sponsorship or transfer business.

www.bbc.co.uk

It's a last gasp desperate attempt that won't come to anything.

Everton already met with the PL last month I think to discuss their financial situation and nothing came of it.

Equally a lot of their losses are Covid/stadium related - the latter of which FFP adjustments will be made.

SlowerThanPlatt · May 21, 2022

Grendel said:
Er no Leeds have spent less time in tbe top flight in their history than Burnley - 9 of the top 10 clubs are currently in the top flight

Other than that era Leeds have been pretty average abs underachieving

A lot of them before WWII I would think?

SlowerThanPlatt · May 21, 2022

cov donkey kick said:
Don't think they will take teams apart like Fulham did none of them coming down will.

I think you underestimate the gap really. Average at best Premier League strikers like Mitrovic, Solanke and Pukki score for fun in the Championship

slowpoke · May 21, 2022

Leeds will be stronger than Burnley, I want us to challenge at the top end this season so with that in mind I want Leeds to survive and Forest to beat Huddersfield.

Evo1883 · May 21, 2022

SlowerThanPlatt said:
I think you underestimate the gap really. Average at best Premier League strikers like Mitrovic, Solanke and Pukki score for fun in the Championship

You would also have to say much like with anything , that the teams they play for make a difference to their output at a higher level

It's not really based on their ability per se, mo salah wouldn't score 25 at Norwich for example

fernandopartridge · May 21, 2022

Grendel said:
If you take the Don Revie era out they won one title and nothing else really

They are a yo yo club historically, similar to Sheff Utd. Majority of their league history spent outside the top flight

fernandopartridge · May 21, 2022

Grendel said:
it’s embarrassing

Leeds' own accounts don't show anybody who plays by whatever 'rule' they think has been broken

Evo1883 · May 21, 2022

Leeds are also the biggest 1 team city in Britain, per person their attendances home and away are no better than coventrys surely ? Somebody like sunderland have insane support when you look at it

Evo1883 · May 21, 2022

fernandopartridge said:
They are a yo yo club historically, similar to Sheff Utd. Majority of their league history spent outside the top flight

51 from 94 years in the top flight apparantly

Deleted member 9744 · May 21, 2022

SlowerThanPlatt said:
I think you underestimate the gap really. Average at best Premier League strikers like Mitrovic, Solanke and Pukki score for fun in the Championship

No way are Mitrovic or Solanke average Premier League strikers. Remains to be seen whether they are even capable at that level. As you say the gap between the Championship and Premier is massive.

PUSB-We_are_going_up · May 21, 2022

Deleted member 9744 said:
No way are Mitrovic or Solanke average Premier League strikers. Remains to be seen whether they are even capable at that level. As you say the gap between the Championship and Premier is massive.

Both of then have poor records at premier league level so they are most definitely not average Premier league strikers, Id label them as below average strikers (for the premier league)

edit: Mitrovic as below average
Solanke as a shit premier league striker

Moff · May 21, 2022

KenilworthSkyBlue said:
It's a last gasp desperate attempt that won't come to anything.

Everton already met with the PL last month I think to discuss their financial situation and nothing came of it.

Equally a lot of their losses are Covid/stadium related - the latter of which FFP adjustments will be made.

Is it last gasp?

Everton have conveniently just come in FFP rules by stating Covid losses were 170 million. This brings them just inside the rules and not ‘cheating’

Similar sized clubs like Newcastle had 40 million losses and Villa even less.
Why were Everton’s so high?……nothing to do with just meeting FFP after throwing good money at shit over the last few years.

If we were Leeds or Burnley I would want us doing exactly the same.

KenilworthSkyBlue · May 21, 2022

Moff said:
Is it last gasp?

Everton have conveniently just come in FFP rules by stating Covid losses were 170 million. This brings them just inside the rules and not ‘cheating’

Similar sized clubs like Newcastle had 40 million losses and Villa even less.
Why were Everton’s so high?……nothing to do with just meeting FFP after throwing good money at shit over the last few years.

If we were Leeds or Burnley I would want us doing exactly the same.

Yes, it's a last gasp attempt.

It appears that they were certainly very close to breaking the regulations but they technically haven't.
Don't forget a significant amount of their losses can be offset if they can prove they're Covid induced and stadium/academy/training ground investment is exempt from the regulations as well.

It's also not in the PL's interest to see clubs sanctioned. That fact they're co-operating with the PL and have also undergone a massive cost-cutting exercise over the past year which will play in their favour.

Mcbean · May 21, 2022

Will be supporting Wycombe this afternoon hoping they can consign that small club in Newcastle to another year in League 1

fernandopartridge · May 21, 2022

Evo1883 said:
51 from 94 years in the top flight apparantly

Ah, read it the other way around but of the last 50 years it's more outside the top flight than in

Grendel · May 21, 2022

SlowerThanPlatt said:
A lot of them before WWII I would think?

No after the war they were in the top flight for 30 years during which time they won the league Fa Cup abs were European cup quarter finalists

Tommo1993 · May 21, 2022

Burnley lose
Leeds lose

Sunderland win 2-0

Moff · May 21, 2022

KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Yes, it's a last gasp attempt.

It appears that they were certainly very close to breaking the regulations but they technically haven't.
Don't forget a significant amount of their losses can be offset if they can prove they're Covid induced and stadium/academy/training ground investment is exempt from the regulations as well.

It's also not in the PL's interest to see clubs sanctioned. That fact they're co-operating with the PL and have also undergone a massive cost-cutting exercise over the past year which will play in their favour.

So the comparable of the other clubs lower losses mean nothing?

Of course Everton were going to lose 4 times as much revenue as the better supported Newcastle..its obvious...well its obvious if you want to fiddle your way into meeting FFP rules.

PUSB-We_are_going_up · May 21, 2022

Leeds and Wycombe for me

PUSB-We_are_going_up · May 21, 2022

Have a soft spot for Wycombe, good underdog story, really rate Ainsworth

Northeast sky blue · May 21, 2022

Hoping Wycombe but I think Sunderland will have to much for them

Moff · May 21, 2022

PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Have a soft spot for Wycombe, good underdog story, really rate Ainsworth

I do as well.

I think Ainsworth has done a great job, and feel they deserve to be back in the championship as they were somewhat cheated by Derby fiddling the finances.

PUSB-We_are_going_up · May 21, 2022

Northeast sky blue said:
Hoping Wycombe but I think Sunderland will have to much for them

I think Wycombe have more about them

Northeast sky blue · May 21, 2022

PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
I think Wycombe have more about them

Hope you're right

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