Wholesale changes needed today (1 Viewer)

[AFCCOVENTRY]

Big changes need to be made by Pressley as everyone has had enough of this silly formation.

4-4-2 or 4-3-3 now.

He needs to get the combo of the strikers right as well and get wing play and creativity spot on.

 

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[stupot07]

I don't think 442 is the answer, but I definitely think we should moved to a 451/433 variant.


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[LJC_CCFC]

Big changes need to be made by Pressley as everyone has had enough of this silly formation.

4-4-2 or 4-3-3 now.

He needs to get the combo of the strikers right as well and get wing play and creativity spot on.

Cannot see why he wouldn't think to change the system, after repeatedly watching the same performance since the start of the season, seeing the deficiencies and obvious problems that occur due to it.



Oh wait.




He's an idiot.



5-3-2 and a 3/4-1 defeat.

 

[Chez78]

I'd just be happy to see us actually defend long balls and simple crosses into the box, cut out these two simple faults and most of the goals we're leaking will stop. I wouldn't mind if we were getting teared apart by world beating football but at the moment we're playing shite teams and conceding shite goals.

 

[Otis]

I don't think 442 is the answer, but I definitely think we should moved to a 451/433 variant.


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4-5-1.

We need to shore up the midfield, as it is an incredibly weak area for us.

 

[Chez78]

4-5-1.

We need to shore up the midfield, as it is an incredibly weak area for us.

I'm struggling to see an area that would be anything other than weak at the moment.

 

[Otis]

I'm struggling to see an area that would be anything other than weak at the moment.

Okay.

The most shittiest of the shit then.

 

[LJC_CCFC]

Ideally I'd want to play:

Burge

Phillips
Hines
Willis
Haynes

Fleck

O'Brien
Coulibaly

McQuoid

Tudgay
Jackson

I just go out and attack teams, in the same way Peterborough play and have done for some time. More of a 'We'll score more than you mentality'.

However perhaps a transitional formation/system is needed to sure this sinking ship up.

Burge

Phillips
Hines
Willis
Haynes

Thomas (In a defensive holding role, which is technically his position)

O'Brien
Barton
Fleck
Coulibaly

Jackson

Basically a 4-1-4-1.

 

[speedie87]

My team today would be

Burge
Clarke Hines Webster Haynes
Thomas Barton fleck
Mcquoid Jackson coulibaly

 

[Otis]

My team today would be

Burge
Clarke Hines Webster Haynes
Thomas Barton fleck
Mcquoid Jackson coulibaly

Again, have a massive problem with that. That midfield 3 looks like it would get walked all over.

 

[speedie87]

Would end up being more of a 5 than a three.

Don't forget the first half of last season we often bossed games possession wise with just fleck and Thomas in the middle of the park.

 

[LJC_CCFC]

Would end up being more of a 5 than a three.

Don't forget the first half of last season we often bossed games possession wise with just fleck and Thomas in the middle of the park.

Exactly, why some are suggesting they couldn't play there in a 4-4-2 is stupid.

 

[stupot07]

Exactly, why some are suggesting they couldn't play there in a 4-4-2 is stupid.

How many goals did we concede last season? How many 20+ goal a season strikers, 10-15 goal a season midfielders do we have to compensate?

What happened when we lost Clarke in Jan and still played 442?

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[chiefdave]

We've not got the squad depth to make wholesale changes to who plays so his only real option to change it up is the formation. You can't keep going out playing the same formation every week when you keep losing.

 

[LJC_CCFC]

How many goals did we concede last season? How many 20+ goal a season strikers, 10-15 goal a season midfielders do we have to compensate?


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In a 4-4-2 like last season there is no reason to suggest that a combination of O'Brien, Coulibaly, Jackson, Nouble, McQouid and Tudgay couldn't get a similar return. Wilson, Clarke and Moussa wouldn't score at anywhere near the same rate in this system. The quality of this league certainly suggests players of their ability could.

 

[Otis]

How many goals did we concede last season? How many 20+ goal a season strikers, 10-15 goal a season midfielders do we have to compensate?


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Exactly. We were got out of jail by the front two who were scoring for fun.

 

[Otis]

In a 4-4-2 like last season there is no reason to suggest that a combination of O'Brien, Coulibaly, Jackson, Nouble, McQouid and Tudgay couldn't get a similar return. Wilson, Clarke and Moussa wouldn't score at anywhere near the same rate in this system. The quality of this league certainly suggests players of their ability could.

Lol. Ha, ha, ha.

I really haven't laughed out so loudly in ages.

Priceless.

:claping hands:

 

[LJC_CCFC]

Lol. Ha, ha, ha.

I really haven't laughed out so loudly in ages.

Priceless.

:claping hands:

You and your lover Stupot just don't have a clue.

 

[Otis]

You and your lover Stupot just don't have a clue.

Okay.



You honestly believe Tudgay and McQuoid could get 20 goals a season for us?

:laugh:

 

[Buster]

Your defence starts with the midfield. Your attack starts with the midfield. Put four in there!

 

[Otis]

Your defence starts with the midfield. Your attack starts with the midfield. Put four in there!

Needs strengthening for sure.

The don't call it the engine room for nothing.

 

[LJC_CCFC]

Okay.



You honestly believe Tudgay and McQuoid could get 20 goals a season for us?

:laugh:

McQuoid has already got 4 in this awful system.

At this level Jackson would get 20 plus

Tudgay's game is purely about finishing, we create hardly any actual chances in this system. Give him (and the rest of them) actual service (like last season) and they will score goals.

I'm sick of listing the average strikers that have scored 15 plus goals in this division over the past 3/4 years.

But a good indication of how easy it is to score in League one these days is the scoring charts.

The likes of Doyle, Forte, Done, Sears, Madden and Bradshaw alone tells you it really isn't that hard to score goals in this division.

Leon Clarke had an awful record throughout his career, yet after dropping down to league 1 (Which standard had started to decline) he scored goals for fun. He is possibly one of the worst technically gifted footballers I've ever seen in a City shirt, yet just kept scoring. Same goes for Wilson tbh, previously had shown nothing to suggest he would get 20 plus.

Fact is, change the system, go and attack, create chances, score goals and win games of football. It really isn't that difficult. With big Reda marshalling the back four (if he stays fit) our defence is better than last year.

 

[LJC_CCFC]

McQuoid has already got 4 in this awful system.

At this level Jackson would get 20 plus

Tudgay's game is purely about finishing, we create hardly any actual chances in this system. Give him (and the rest of them) actual service (like last season) and they will score goals.

I'm sick of listing the average strikers that have scored 15 plus goals in this division over the past 3/4 years.

But a good indication of how easy it is to score in League one these days is the scoring charts.

The likes of Doyle, Forte, Done, Sears, Madden and Bradshaw alone tells you it really isn't that hard to score goals in this division.

Leon Clarke had an awful record throughout his career, yet after dropping down to league 1 (Which standard had started to decline) he scored goals for fun. He is possibly one of the worst technically gifted footballers I've ever seen in a City shirt, yet just kept scoring. Same goes for Wilson tbh, previously had shown nothing to suggest he would get 20 plus. And McGoldrick, nothing to goal machine after half a season at this level.

Fact is, change the system, go and attack, create chances, score goals and win games of football. It really isn't that difficult. With big Reda marshalling the back four (if he stays fit) our defence is better than last year.

 

[stupot07]

Leon Clarkes record in league one thoughout his career is excellent, that is his level. Do your research.


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[LJC_CCFC]

Leon Clarkes record in league one thoughout his career is excellent, that is his level. Do your research.


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The quality of League one has declined in the last 3/4 seasons.

Clarke has been playing regularly in this division since 2011.

Do your research.

Also instead of trying to find fault by picking out one small point of my post, actually take into account what I've said, cretin.

 

[Otis]

The quality of League one has declined in the last 3/4 seasons.

Clarke has been playing regularly in this division since 2011.

Do your research.

Also instead of trying to find fault by picking out one small point of my post, actually take into account what I've said, cretin.

Why do you have to resort to name calling when someone disagrees with you?

Rather lame don't you think. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and you should respect that.

 

[LJC_CCFC]

Why do you have to resort to name calling when someone disagrees with you?

Rather lame don't you think. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and you should respect that.

Give me your opinion on what I've just said, instead of picking one small point out of what I've said that you think may be wrong (Which it isn't). Give me an opinion peeeeeleaseeeeee.

 

[Otis]

Give me your opinion on what I've just said, instead of picking one small point out of what I've said that you think may be wrong (Which it isn't). Give me an opinion peeeeeleaseeeeee.

As I've said several times, the system isn't the problem, it's the fact we don't have the players to play the system.

The system is wrong, but can work with the right personnel.

Don't know why you have to be so insistent you are right all the time. I just see it as people having differing opinions.

If you say Barton is good and I say he is crap, it doesn't make either of us right. It is just two differing opinions.

I don't think McQuoid is good enough to get 20 goals in a season in this division, nor Tudgay either.

Jackson I think could.

 

[stupot07]

Would you still rather have Jackson over Wilson and clarke?




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[Otis]

Would you still rather have Jackson over Wilson and clarke?




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Can't believe anyone could think that. Or that this squad is better than last year.

 

[LJC_CCFC]

Can't believe anyone could think that. Or that this squad is better than last year.

Opinions init. Would have him over Clarke everyday of the week. Currently on a par with Wilson.

 

[Rusty Trombone]

Fact is, change the system, go and attack, create chances, score goals and win games of football. It really isn't that difficult. With big Reda marshalling the back four (if he stays fit) our defence is better than last year.

The list of goal scorers makes interesting reading. I still don't think that Jackson would do as well as Wilson as he lacks great pace as was shown in previous home games, but I'd certainly rather we go for a change in approach and go and attack more. I'd rather lose having a real go than lose with a lot of passing around at the back and midfield.

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Again, have a massive problem with that. That midfield 3 looks like it would get walked all over.

Is there any midfield combination at the club which wouldn't get walked over?

Another monumental cock up by Pressley

 

[Otis]

Opinions init. Would have him over Clarke everyday of the week. Currently on a par with Wilson.

Clarke had many deficiencies in his game, but was a natural goal poacher.

Jackson for me doesn't have that same instinct, but I do think he is the only player in our squad who could bag 20 goals for us at the moment.

 

[Otis]

Is there any midfield combination at the club which wouldn't get walked over?

Another monumental cock up by Pressley

That's why I have said to play 5 in midfield. 1 in a slightly deeper role and 1 more as a box to box midfielder.

I know some would give it another title, but it's 4-5-1 to me, as I'm old school.