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Why Can't CCFC (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter Bob Latchford
  • Start date May 25, 2016
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Bob Latchford

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  • May 25, 2016
  • #1
Sell season tickets at £149.00 . this will be Bradford's second season at selling them at that price . they got 18000 season ticket holders at that price [Ended up in the playoffs too ] - surely that would be better for atmosphere at the Ricoh ??
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • May 25, 2016
  • #2
Still would not sell.
Only the regular 5000 will buy them and are stupid enough to pay whatever the club ask.
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Got mine on day one
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 25, 2016
  • #3
Bob Latchford said:
Sell season tickets at £149.00 . this will be Bradford's second season at selling them at that price . they got 18000 season ticket holders at that price [Ended up in the playoffs too ] - surely that would be better for atmosphere at the Ricoh ??
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Because we would get far less season tickets and people bitching at paying £25 plus for one game
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • May 25, 2016
  • #4
Bob Latchford said:
Sell season tickets at £149.00 . this will be Bradford's second season at selling them at that price . they got 18000 season ticket holders at that price [Ended up in the playoffs too ] - surely that would be better for atmosphere at the Ricoh ??
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Because they wouldn't sell anywhere near enough to make up the lost revenue. Look at when they discounted season tickets last season, made very little difference.
 

Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • May 25, 2016
  • #5
With us I honestly don't think price is the main problem.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 25, 2016
  • #6
Personally speaking I do about 7 home games a season so at that price it would be a no brainer for me I'd get one. I'd almost certainly go to more games although I'd never be able to attend all. I can't believe I'd be alone on this either.

It could work but it would be a gamble.
 
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stupot07

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  • May 25, 2016
  • #7
They average 18,089 last season, remarkable they only managed a combine walk up and away gate average of 89 people on top of their 18k STHs...

Bottom line is, we wouldn't sell enough, season tickets were around 33% cheaper last season, we only sold 20% more and therefore made a loss on them.




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ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • May 25, 2016
  • #8
They addressed the Bradford comparison and said that basically
 

Bob Latchford

Well-Known Member
  • May 25, 2016
  • #9
skybluetony176 said:
Personally speaking I do anything between 6-8 maybe 9 home games a season so at that price it would be a no brainer for me I'd get one. I'd almost certainly go to more games although I'd never be able to attend all. I can't believe I'd be alone on this either.

It could work but it would be a gamble.
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I'm with you on this ! at £149.00 i'd buy one . and i'm convinced many thousands would too . £149.00 is nothing to watch 23 games.
 

Otis

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  • May 25, 2016
  • #10
Bob Latchford said:
I'm with you on this ! at £149.00 i'd buy one . and i'm convinced many thousands would too . £149.00 is nothing to watch 23 games.
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It isn't nothing, it's £149.

Maths not your strong point, Bob?
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • May 25, 2016
  • #11
skybluetony176 said:
Personally speaking I do anything between 6-8 maybe 9 home games a season so at that price it would be a no brainer for me I'd get one. I'd almost certainly go to more games although I'd never be able to attend all. I can't believe I'd be alone on this either.

It could work but it would be a gamble.
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Why not just say 'about 7' instead? Lol

...onwards & upwards PUSB
 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 25, 2016
  • #12
SkyblueBazza said:
Why not just say 'about 7' instead? Lol

...onwards & upwards PUSB
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Just because you asked
 
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Pipehitterz

Well-Known Member
  • May 25, 2016
  • #13
Bradford have their ground smack bang I'm the middle of town.
Even if we sold ours for 100 quid we would not get 18000 season tickets , add that's a fact.
People find it hard to get to ricoh regardless of it being easy to get to.
I've heard excuse after excuse not to go , and I'm sure I'd hear something equally ridiculous not to buy one for £100
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 25, 2016
  • #14
Pipehitterz said:
Bradford have their ground smack bang I'm the middle of town.
Even if we sold ours for 100 quid we would not get 18000 season tickets , add that's a fact.
People find it hard to get to ricoh regardless of it being easy to get to.
I've heard excuse after excuse not to go , and I'm sure I'd hear something equally ridiculous not to buy one for £100
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Also the next problem would be - £100? - I assume I can spread that over 12 months - interest free.
 

Skyblueweeman

Well-Known Member
  • May 25, 2016
  • #15
What's our average price of a ticket...£299? Say 6,000 sold....just under £1.8m.

If we sold them at £149 and got a 50% increase (generous/unlikely) in sales, 9,000, that would bring in approx £1.34m.

Better atmosphere maybe but shit for the coffers Bob. Not the best idea....


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Skyblueweeman

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  • May 25, 2016
  • #16
And another thing Bob...if people paid full price for merchandise, the prices might not go up as much.

Ok, even in bored of that one now. Last time.


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Kingokings204

Well-Known Member
  • May 25, 2016
  • #17
Yeah we would lose money but more to the point it's not the price that's the problem is it. I including many other would gladly pay £500+ for a good standard of football and to see some good players.

Same in many walks of life, it's not the price most of the time that's the problem, it's the product/ quality.
 

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • May 26, 2016
  • #18
The loyal 10k fans hasn't changed a great deal over the last decade or so and I don't think any drop in the prices would significantly change that. I do agree on discounts for long serving ST holders to retain them however.
 
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Pipehitterz

Well-Known Member
  • May 26, 2016
  • #19
Aye a loyalty discount world be nice ..
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • May 26, 2016
  • #20
CCFC cant discount to £149 simply because the ticket income is the only major income they generate
Unlike Bradford they don't get
- Naming rights
- All F&B and Hospitality sales and profits (mind we don't get the associated costs either)
- non match day incomes at the stadium
- etc

On top of that (I don't know about Bradford) but they don't get the Merchandise sales or match progam sales because they chose to franchise it out so only get a small percentage

Yes I know there are costs we do not pick up but they do

and on top of that CCFC have not in recent times had the success on the pitch that Bradford have which means ST take up is far better. In fact discounting in the past at CCFC hasn't even got us to 10k ST's. Many fans have become ambivalent towards CCFC and there is a disconnect that cheap ST's will not bridge

Yes it works for Bradford but their business model is very different to ours
 
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Bob Latchford

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  • May 26, 2016
  • #21
Pipehitterz said:
Bradford have their ground smack bang I'm the middle of town.
Even if we sold ours for 100 quid we would not get 18000 season tickets , add that's a fact.
People find it hard to get to ricoh regardless of it being easy to get to.
I've heard excuse after excuse not to go , and I'm sure I'd hear something equally ridiculous not to buy one for £100
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If true , that's sad . i'm sure @ £149.00 we'd get 12000 to buy a season ticket. when i first went in the mid 70's 30.000 + was a regular crowd .
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • May 26, 2016
  • #22
It was a huge error of judgement for SISU to lower prices so much for last season. If lowering prices increased revenue by virtue of larger attendances every club would have lower prices.
 
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Wyken Sky Blue

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  • May 26, 2016
  • #23
Bob Latchford said:
If true , that's sad . i'm sure @ £149.00 we'd get 12000 to buy a season ticket. when i first went in the mid 70's 30.000 + was a regular crowd .
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Why are you so sure?

CCFC are a fickle bunch, nothing more needs to be said.

We would sell 5k at £150ps and we would sell 5k at £300 ps

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Bob Latchford

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2016
  • #24
skyblue1991 said:
Why are you so sure?

CCFC are a fickle bunch, nothing more needs to be said.

We would sell 5k at £150ps and we would sell 5k at £300 ps

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I'm sure we'd sell 12,000 at £149 .00 easy !
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 27, 2016
  • #25
Bob Latchford said:
I'm sure we'd sell 12,000 at £149 .00 easy !
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We really wouldn't, as shown by the big discount last year and no increase.
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2016
  • #26
We'll never find out but I wonder if they would have tried making them even cheaper if they'd maintained the level of revenue with the reductions last season.
 
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Bob Latchford

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  • May 27, 2016
  • #27
chiefdave said:
We'll never find out but I wonder if they would have tried making them even cheaper if they'd maintained the level of revenue with the reductions last season.
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It's difficult to answer but , might be worth a try ?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2016
  • #28
Bob Latchford said:
It's difficult to answer but , might be worth a try ?
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The priority would be having a season of success, would make a nice change. Hard to predict what would happen long term if we were bouncing around divisions. Would be nice to think we could get into the Championship and stabilise there but while you're allowed to lose millions a year can't see that happening.
 
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stupot07

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  • May 27, 2016
  • #29
I'm sure if they were £149, people would moan they were too expensive. Our current STs are still cheap by league one standard.


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Bob Latchford

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  • May 27, 2016
  • #30
They'd moan at 149 ? are you sure about that ??
stupot07 said:
I'm sure if they were £149, people would moan they were too expensive. Our current STs are still cheap by league one standard.


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cloughie

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2016
  • #31
Brylowes said:
With us I honestly don't think price is the main problem.
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Correct its the owners that are the problem
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • May 27, 2016
  • #32
Bob Latchford said:
They'd moan at 149 ? are you sure about that ??
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Yeah, there's always something to.moan about.

I don't understand why you started this thread, and keep moaning given that others and OSB have reiterated how important ticket revenue is.

Yes £149 would lead to more sales but then thah would reduce the pool of regular walk ups and a quick back of the fag packet maths suggest you'd need around 7-8k+ per game matchday tickets/walk ups on top of the 12k STs you predict to bring in the same ticket revenue as last season, thats averaging 20k per game, not gonna happen which would mean reducing the wage billm I'm sure you wouldn't mind, given you're saving on your ticket.

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Nick

Administrator
  • May 27, 2016
  • #33
stupot07 said:
Yeah, there's always something to.moan about.

I don't understand why you started this thread, and keep moaning given that others and OSB have reiterated how important ticket revenue is.

Yes £149 would lead to more sales but then thah would reduce the pool of regular walk ups and a quick back of the fag packet maths suggest you'd need around 7-8k+ per game matchday tickets/walk ups on top of the 12k STs you predict to bring in the same ticket revenue as last season, thats averaging 20k per game, not gonna happen which would mean reducing the wage billm I'm sure you wouldn't mind, given you're saving on your ticket.

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That's the thing, it is just about the moan isn't it.

Our season ticket prices are still decent value, it isn't as if we are miles more expensive than other L1 teams.
 
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