Why should CCC help? (5 Viewers)

bigfatronssba · May 5, 2014

Tittle says it all, why should CCC help Otium Entertainment Ltd?

In the past 35 years Coventry has seen Peugeot, Jaguar, Triumph, Massy Ferguson, Rolls Royce, GEC, Courtaulds, and many more other major companies close. CCC did not help any of these as they are private companies and free to do as they wish. These companies provided far more to the city in terms of prestige, jobs, and money than a 3rd Division football club ever will.

Also none of these companies ever (to my knowledge) tied CCC up in an expensive legal battle.

So I'd like to hear the arguments as to why CCC should suddenly help a privately owned company.

After all, we all agree that it would have been better for CCC not to help CCFC back in 2003 don't we?

Grendel · May 5, 2014

Why did they help ACL or are you saying they are not a private company?

limoncello · May 5, 2014

No, you're right. Fuck the club, bunch of clowns. How dare they ask for millions of pounds and loads of other stuff like free cocaine. I'm so outraged at the moment what with all this Sisu demanding loads of money shit. Outrageous.

Colin1883 · May 5, 2014

Sisu are claiming alleged government aid? Because CCC helped ACL... You can't have it both ways...

bigfatronssba · May 5, 2014

Grendel said:
Why did they help ACL or are you saying they are not a private company?

They are not a privately owned company.

Coincidentally do you still think ACL are a Quango, or have you stopped calling them that now as that would leave Sisu without a case at the JR?

bigfatronssba · May 5, 2014

limoncello said:
No, you're right. Fuck the club, bunch of clowns. How dare they ask for millions of pounds and loads of other stuff like free cocaine. I'm so outraged at the moment what with all this Sisu demanding loads of money shit. Outrageous.

I'm just asking whats the reasoning for wanting CCC to help Otium?

Nick · May 5, 2014

Why are SISU asking for help from them?

limoncello · May 5, 2014

bigfatronssba said:
I'm just asking whats the reasoning for wanting CCC to help Otium?

What help are we talking about?

bigfatronssba · May 5, 2014

Nick said:
Why are SISU asking for help from them?

They want to buy the Ricoh??

bigfatronssba · May 5, 2014

limoncello said:
What help are we talking about?

They want to buy the Ricoh??

Nick · May 5, 2014

bigfatronssba said:
They want to buy the Ricoh??

Oh, I thought you meant actual help.

limoncello · May 5, 2014

So the club wanting to buy the ground is automatically an act of charity from the council? Have I missed something? What are you chatting about?

Grendel · May 5, 2014

This is hilarious.

Rusty Trombone · May 5, 2014

The Council have already helped, they secured a loan so that ACL could reduce its interest payments, and thereby afford to offer CCFC a lower rent.

Grendel · May 5, 2014

bigfatronssba said:
They are not a privately owned company.

Coincidentally do you still think ACL are a Quango, or have you stopped calling them that now as that would leave Sisu without a case at the JR?

ACL are a private company - the shareholders are not. So in restructuring a loan the council helped the private company.

How, legally, are they not a private company?

bigfatronssba · May 5, 2014

limoncello said:
So the club wanting to buy the ground is automatically an act of charity from the council? Have I missed something? What are you chatting about?

So why do you think a deal hasn't been done for Sisu to buy the Ricoh?

Nick · May 5, 2014

So many on here seem to back the council more than the club?

Nick · May 5, 2014

bigfatronssba said:
So why do you think a deal hasn't been done for Sisu to buy the Ricoh?

Because the Council or Higgs want too much for it? That is not a fact, just my feeling.

bigfatronssba · May 5, 2014

Grendel said:
ACL are a private company - the shareholders are not. So in restructuring a loan the council helped the private company.

How, legally, are they not a private company?

They are a private company in the same sense that Royal Mail was a private company pre 2013.

bigfatronssba · May 5, 2014

Nick said:
Because the Council or Higgs want too much for it? That is not a fact, just my feeling.

So the Council wont help in lowering what they want for it you mean?

limoncello · May 5, 2014

bigfatronssba said:
So why do you think a deal hasn't been done for Sisu to buy the Ricoh?

We were talking about why the council shouldn't help the club. Has the deal not been done because the council don't want to help the club? I'm struggling to understand what you're on about tbh.

Nick · May 5, 2014

Private Limited company gives it away doesn't it?

sky blue john · May 5, 2014

limoncello said:
So the club wanting to buy the ground is automatically an act of charity from the council? Have I missed something? What are you chatting about?

When was the club going to buy the Ricoh ?
I always thought it was Sisu that wanted to purchase an unencumbered Ricoh.

Nick · May 5, 2014

bigfatronssba said:
So the Council wont help in lowering what they want for it you mean?

Or the council ARENT helping by taking the piss It works either way.

bigfatronssba · May 5, 2014

Nick said:
So many on here seem to back the council more than the club?

So many on here seem to back a hedge fund more than their city?

limoncello · May 5, 2014

sky blue john said:
When was the club going to buy the Ricoh ?
I always thought it was Sisu that wanted to purchase an unencumbered Ricoh.

Sisu/Otium are the club mate.

fernandopartridge · May 5, 2014

bigfatronssba said:
Tittle says it all, why should CCC help Otium Entertainment Ltd?

In the past 35 years Coventry has seen Peugeot, Jaguar, Triumph, Massy Ferguson, Rolls Royce, GEC, Courtaulds, and many more other major companies close. CCC did not help any of these as they are private companies and free to do as they wish. These companies provided far more to the city in terms of prestige, jobs, and money than a 3rd Division football club ever will.

Also none of these companies ever (to my knowledge) tied CCC up in an expensive legal battle.

So I'd like to hear the arguments as to why CCC should suddenly help a privately owned company.

After all, we all agree that it would have been better for CCC not to help CCFC back in 2003 don't we?

ccc didn't help ccfc in 2003. That's the real point.

Nick · May 5, 2014

bigfatronssba said:
So many on here seem to back a hedge fund more than their city?

Most back the club, most couldn't give a shit about a hedge fund.

I personally couldn't give a shit about the hedge fund or the city, just the football club!

limoncello · May 5, 2014

bigfatronssba said:
So many on here seem to back a hedge fund more than their city?

Good one.

fernandopartridge · May 5, 2014

bigfatronssba said:
They are not a privately owned company.

Coincidentally do you still think ACL are a Quango, or have you stopped calling them that now as that would leave Sisu without a case at the JR?

They are a private company. Have you tried to buy any shares?

Grendel · May 5, 2014

bigfatronssba said:
They are a private company in the same sense that Royal Mail was a private company pre 2013.

Christ - you must be a sisu plant.

Comedy gold this.

Nick · May 5, 2014

fernandopartridge said:
ccc didn't help ccfc in 2003. That's the real point.

What happened when the club asked for lower rent?

bigfatronssba · May 5, 2014

limoncello said:
We were talking about why the council shouldn't help the club. Has the deal not been done because the council don't want to help the club? I'm struggling to understand what you're on about tbh.

I was just asking, should the council help the club?

Should they allow Otium to buy ACL if they don't want to sell?

Nick · May 5, 2014

bigfatronssba said:
I was just asking, should the council help the club?

Should they allow Otium to buy ACL if they don't want to sell?

So if they won't sell and want to charge silly rent with no way for the club to make it's own money, where does that leave the club?

fernandopartridge · May 5, 2014

bigfatronssba said:
I was just asking, should the council help the club?

Should they allow Otium to buy ACL if they don't want to sell?

When it wasn't their half that we being sold?

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